International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

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[Ruthless Ryan]

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ukrainian official confirms what everybody knew already



ukraine was pushed by the west to reject peace treaty with russia and keep fighting

so ukraine and its people were used by nato as pawns to fight a war with russia.

now lets see all the usual idiots try to spin this

your obviously a bot, been saying the same 3 lines for a couple years now.

 

[grimballer]

Lmao now that I can laugh at your posts you might start getting some likes. No more fake accounts to like your own posts anymore

Hindustan times
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its cute how you live in a fantasy world where you think people actually care about your "likes" and everything is going according to western plans in ukraine and kiev is winning

 

[grimballer]

None of this is true. Russia created the hostilities in the Donbas this has been well documented.

Face it Ukraine wanted to move west just like many former Russian states... the Russian gov has no way to compete and Ukraine was ready to pivot for a chance of a better outcome for it's people. Just like wih Georgia and every other neighbor to Russia all they can expect is war and russification

ukrainians made their decision by electing a guy who wanted better relations with russia and didn't want to be another nation trapped by western creditors.

of course ukraine people decision was hijacked by western back insurrectionists and their democratically elected president was removed in a coup.

this led to people in donbas rising up against western backed anti russian junta in kiev

no amount of spinning and gaslighting will change those facts

 

[grimballer]

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your obviously a bot, been saying the same 3 lines for a couple years now.

my obviously a bot? whats a "obviously a bot"? never heard of it?

do you have something to say about video itself where now even ukraine officials admit west pushed them to fight russia and that it wasn't their plan initially?

or you just gonna act like a bot and accuse others of being bots cause they don't parrot pre approved msm talking points?

 

[AWilder]

its cute how you live in a fantasy world where you think people actually care about your "likes" and everything is going according to western plans in ukraine and kiev is winning

Hey lil guy, you got caught making accounts to like your posts. The only comedian here is you.
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[grimballer]

Hey lil guy, you got caught making accounts to like your posts. The only comedian here is you.
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your claims are as credible as western msm narrative about the conflict in ukraine... its all product of wild imagination

 

[AWilder]

your claims are as credible as western msm narrative about the conflict in ukraine... its all product of wild imagination

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[calavera2]

ukrainians made their decision by electing a guy who wanted better relations with russia and didn't want to be another nation trapped by western creditors.

of course ukraine people decision was hijacked by western back insurrectionists and their democratically elected president was removed in a coup.

this led to people in donbas rising up against western backed anti russian junta in kiev

no amount of spinning and gaslighting will change those facts

Russia has been killing Ukrainians for quite a while now... bombing their infrastructure trying to freeze them to death...all for the crime wanting what other former Russian states now have. Peace and security via NATO...that ain't gaslighting chump thems are the real facts

 

[giusti825]

You also said UKR wasnt crossing the Dniepo river and that was all western propaganda but then Shoigu came out and said over 13,000 UKR soldiers had been killed in the river crossing....totally believable. Basically what your saying is the only truth is Russian propaganda everything else is a lie.

No. What I am saying is we should live in reality. The outcome of this war if fought to conclusion is obvious. We should be pushing for peace instead of telling the Ukranians not to negotiate.

There is no need for more pointless death as if the outcome of this conflict is still up in the air.

It's also a huge waste of our tax money for something that has no bearing on our national security; in fact, funding this war has arguably made America less safe.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

my obviously a bot? whats a "obviously a bot"? never heard of it?

do you have something to say about video itself where now even ukraine officials admit west pushed them to fight russia and that it wasn't their plan initially?

or you just gonna act like a bot and accuse others of being bots cause they don't parrot pre approved msm talking points?

Your a robot because you have literally been saying the same 3 things for over a year now. And nobody around here is saying UKR is winning only Russia is taking a bigger shit kicking but can out suffer UKR because Russian life is treated like an ant.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

No. What I am saying is we should live in reality. The outcome of this war if fought to conclusion is obvious. We should be pushing for peace instead of telling the Ukranians not to negotiate.

There is no need for more pointless death as if the outcome of this conflict is still up in the air.

It's also a huge waste of our tax money for something that has no bearing on our national security; in fact, funding this war has arguably made America less safe.

Your concerned tax paying citizen? would have have said the same thing opposing "your money" to fight against Hitler in WW2?

 

[Strychnine]

Drones can hit Russian territory too.

Starting in Jan 1, 2024, Russian conscription can continue up to age 18 - 30 instead of 18 - 27.

 

[Strychnine]

Russia offered to end its invasion of Ukraine if it dumped plans to join NATO, but Kyiv feared a double-cross, says negotiator​

"Russia offered to stop its invasion of Ukraine on the condition that Zelenskyy's government abandoned its ambition to join NATO, The Kyiv Post reports.

David Arakhamiya, leader of the Servant of the People party and head of the Ukrainian delegation in the talks, said that Russia had proposed a resolution to the conflict in spring 2022.

The peace talks took place during the early stages of the full-scale war in Belarus and Turkey.

The Russian delegation reportedly proposed ending the war if Ukraine dropped its NATO aspirations and took a neutral position.

Arakhamiya said that a shift toward neutrality would require a constitutional change, considering Ukraine's current constitutional commitment to NATO membership."

MSN

Yeah, the Ukrainian negotiators weren't buying it from the Russians. They knew that if they stopped fighting that the Russians would just regroup and go all-in later with even greater strength.

No one is buying what Putin is selling except those who love authoritarianism.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Russia offered to end its invasion of Ukraine if it dumped plans to join NATO, but Kyiv feared a double-cross, says negotiator​

"Russia offered to stop its invasion of Ukraine on the condition that Zelenskyy's government abandoned its ambition to join NATO, The Kyiv Post reports.

David Arakhamiya, leader of the Servant of the People party and head of the Ukrainian delegation in the talks, said that Russia had proposed a resolution to the conflict in spring 2022.

The peace talks took place during the early stages of the full-scale war in Belarus and Turkey.

The Russian delegation reportedly proposed ending the war if Ukraine dropped its NATO aspirations and took a neutral position.

Arakhamiya said that a shift toward neutrality would require a constitutional change, considering Ukraine's current constitutional commitment to NATO membership."

MSN

Yeah, the Ukrainian negotiators weren't buying it from the Russians. They knew that if they stopped fighting that the Russians would just regroup and go all-in later with even greater strength.

No one is buying what Putin is selling except those who love authoritarianism.

Just more MSM propaganda? must be UKR vehicles with "Z" painted on all them

 

[grimballer]

Your a robot because you have literally been saying the same 3 things for over a year now. And nobody around here is saying UKR is winning only Russia is taking a bigger shit kicking but can out suffer UKR because Russian life is treated like an ant.

yes, there were idiots here (probably you included) that were just parroting msm narrative that kiev regime is winning and russia will collapse.

nothing of that came true and actually the exact opposite is happening.

now its funny you say that russian life is treated like an ant when kiev regime is literally running out of able bodies to send to be slaughtered just to serve their nato bosses

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

yes, there were idiots here (probably you included) that were just parroting msm narrative that kiev regime is winning and russia will collapse.

nothing of that came true and actually the exact opposite is happening.

now its funny you say that russian life is treated like an ant when kiev regime is literally running out of able bodies to send to be slaughtered just to serve their nato bosses

Do you not see what's happening in Avdiivka? you can watch video or news from either side showing Russians doing infantry meat wave attacks over and over. But you will will deny this this either way.

 

[grimballer]

Russia has been killing Ukrainians for quite a while now... bombing their infrastructure trying to freeze them to death...all for the crime wanting what other former Russian states now have. Peace and security via NATO...that ain't gaslighting chump thems are the real facts

cant have "peace and security" at the expanse of nations around you and ethnic minorities living in your country....

again you can spin and gaslight all you want, but it doesn't change the facts.

ukraine joining nato was a red line for russia and they said it many times before the smo in 2022. even the head of nato admitted that russia wanted an agreement that ukraine will remain neutral and not join nato and their demands were refused. it's obvious ukraine was used to provoke russia while nazis and other nationalists were emboldened by the west to attack ethnic russians in donbas and rest of ukraine

 

[grimballer]

cc Do you not see what's happening in Avdiivka? you can watch video or news from either side showing Russians doing infantry meat wave attacks over and over. But you will will deny this this either way.

casualties happen in a military conflict, imagine that?

theres no more hope for kiev side in adeevka, but you still have kiev comedian sending troops to be slaughtered just to please his nato bosses.

 

[PEB]

This is a former US Military soldier who has been a member of Ukraine foreign legion. He interviews other soldiers about the war the video is a month old.