International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[SandisLL]

Yeah
From one point this is correct about Lancet drones... They had created new models variants and managed to rack up production rate....

While if about " NATO technique destroyed " it is joke. It is old equipment allowed to be re exported to non NATO countries. Mainly all this stuff had been scheduled to be replaced long before Ukr war in 2022 th.

 

[SandisLL]

North Korea weapons supplies.
If we are talking about artillery then we might suspect that North Korea might had supplied ammunition like 1 000 000 shells for 152 mm artillery.
While additionally they might had supplied liners and barrels, chemical components etc and even mortars, artillery units etc...
Also some easy to Google up sources stated that North Korea might be capable to supply Russia with at least 2 000 000 artillery rounds for 152 mm artillery IF Kim will decide to do this.

Also for my personal point quality of NK ammo is better than Western media are portraying. I'm not happy with this but in some cases it might be better than ......
.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

North Korea weapons supplies.
If we are talking about artillery then we might suspect that North Korea might had supplied ammunition like 1 000 000 shells for 152 mm artillery.
While additionally they might had supplied liners and barrels, chemical components etc and even mortars, artillery units etc...
Also some easy to Google up sources stated that North Korea might be capable to supply Russia with at least 2 000 000 artillery rounds for 152 mm artillery IF Kim will decide to do this.

Also for my personal point quality of NK ammo is better than Western media are portraying. I'm not happy with this but in some cases it might be better than ......
.

Why would their ammo be better? Isn’t it old Soviet era shells?

 

[grimballer]

oh no, things are going from bad to worse for kiev panhandler...

https://www.rt.com/news/586853-us-ukraine-humanitarian-funding-runs-out/

theres also rumors that there might be a military coup n kiev and comedian/panhandler might be ousted soon

 

[SandisLL]

Why would their ammo be better? Isn’t it old Soviet era shells?

Soviet era shells are not bad. If manufacturing standards and storage had been done according to standards.
Dear God, sometimes even today old ammo manufactured before 1940 th is working.
Ofc NK artillery shells aren't Excalibur etc alike stuff while we are thinking that we need more BB RAP " dummy shells "...longer range than traditional shells and cheaper than GPS guided +0 impact from any radioelectronic warfare.

 

[Rholk]

oh no, things are going from bad to worse for kiev panhandler...

https://www.rt.com/news/586853-us-ukraine-humanitarian-funding-runs-out/

theres also rumors that there might be a military coup n kiev and comedian/panhandler might be ousted soon

Damn, Ukraine really reaching Russian levels of backwardsness in regards to getting coup'd huh?
Oh wait, www.rt.com

 

[grimballer]

Damn, Ukraine really reaching Russian levels of backwardsness in regards to getting coup'd huh?
Oh wait, www.rt.com

are you really that slow? they are quoting a rep of usaid testifying infront of senate committee

i guess if you pretend you didn't hear it, it didn't happen?

 

[SandisLL]

Damn, Ukraine really reaching Russian levels of backwardsness in regards to getting coup'd huh?
Oh wait, www.rt.com

Fake stuff.
For coup done in Ukraine you need to dismiss parliament. It is lawmaker in Ukraine not a president. Rada is some kind like Senate and Congress taken together in U.S, it is Supreme Parliament and lawmaker. In Ukraine President can't change country borders etc...while during wartime he does have more rights like to be armed forces chief etc....
Ukraine is parliamentary republic with semi presidential entity where the president isn't supreme lawmaker. Lawmaker is Supreme Parliament...stuff Yanukovich attempted to change....

 

[PEB]

"must deflect and distract from what's going on on actual battlefield and kiev comedian performance thus far"

I saw a few clips looked like they where edited with older clips it's hard to see what is real or edited. Ukraine puts of clips with two views one from a drone another from the drone going to its death.

 

[SandisLL]

Latvian parliament had finally started real debates about budget 2024 th. Despite their financial condition in reality is better than Germany does have ....lesser State Treasury debt % from net GDP and even criteria like deposits vs loans issued.

They will sign bills etc for December 2023 th while no any bare thing for January 2024 th.
Latvia is full World Bank and IMF and IBRD and EBRD member country and eurozone country and also full NATO member.

Budget pass process always had been little nightmare hell during some months.

 

[Cid]

You still think the goal is Ukrainian victory? Driving russia out of crimea?

Commitment varies ally by ally. Germany would end it now, Poland would support them in a drive to moscow.

It's disappointing that's it's now a war of attrition but not entirely surprising.

It was the most likely scenario. Put less than 1% of GDP into Ukraine for 4-5 years, watch the combined economic might do it's thing.

 

[Strychnine]

 

[Strychnine]

 

[Limbo Pete]

 

[SandisLL]

https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2023/11/...it-rossiyan-sosiskami-iz-lichinok-muh-a112657


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Roman Nekrasov, Professor of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Head of the Department of the Federal Research Center for Animal Husbandry, says that "the adoption of the resolution by the government is long-awaited and in demand, it will allow the official

GT translation.....

 

[Nameless Ghoul]

$75 billion to that corrupt leader/country..now he's begging like a bitch in front of the world, and also implying suspending elections like a dictator. I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but fuck you Zelensky.

All this talk of "credit"

 

[SandisLL]

$75 billion to that corrupt leader/country..now he's begging like a bitch in front of the world, and also implying suspending elections like a dictator. I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but fuck you Zelensky.

All this talk of "credit"

I hope that soon you will travel to Ukraine and attend trenches as civilian instead to sit in internet and posting MAGA populists bullshit.

Why?

Because in order to have elections internationally recognized ALL voting points should allow IF asked to provide access for international observers!

So you are willing to go into trenches to watch elections process?????
Who will pay for this and where we will get civilians from western countries willing to do this and to take such risk?

About civilians you had to think?
Like mass gathering points with openly awailable schedule?
To put civies on such risk.

While yeah, I agree that Europe better had as friend Iran and North Korea, Pakistan and India & China.
Weapons cheap and Iran does have a lot of crude oil.

Europe needed to cut ties with U.S and sanction U.S ....

Also crappy 75 b Europe easily might pay and especially if will sent U.S weapons and LNG sellers to the hell.

 

[SandisLL]

For example Abrams tanks.
With fully added city pack + combat pack it is in real life as bare minimum 72,5 metric t...in metric units.
While tank is really good it is heavy as hell.
Poland for example might had to afford to purchase these because they does want to use these as deterrent and in worst case to place in Baltic countries and/ or Slovakia.

Otherwise for assault operations they are too heavy ....for Poland it doesn't make problems cos they aren't planning assault operations.

 

[Nameless Ghoul]

I hope that soon you will travel to Ukraine and attend trenches as civilian instead to sit in internet and posting MAGA populists bullshit.

Why?

Because in order to have elections internationally recognized ALL voting points should allow IF asked to provide access for international observers!

So you are willing to go into trenches to watch elections process?????
Who will pay for this and where we will get civilians from western countries willing to do this and to take such risk?

About civilians you had to think?
Like mass gathering points with openly awailable schedule?
To put civies on such risk.

While yeah, I agree that Europe better had as friend Iran and North Korea, Pakistan and India & China.
Weapons cheap and Iran does have a lot of crude oil.

Europe needed to cut ties with U.S and sanction U.S ....

Also crappy 75 b Europe easily might pay and especially if will sent U.S weapons and LNG sellers to the hell.

I understand the predicament that the Ukrainian people are in, and it is awful. However, sadly this cannot be a bottomless pit of money sent, and continue forever. There is no "MAGA" bullshit behind my statements, just almost 2 years in...what do you want? Funding forever?

 

[SandisLL]

I understand the predicament that the Ukrainian people are in, and it is awful. However, sadly this cannot be a bottomless pit of money sent, and continue forever. There is no "MAGA" bullshit behind my statements, just almost 2 years in...what do you want? Funding forever?

I don't agree that Ukraine should be accepted in EU or NATO and I do not agree that Ukraine should get our taxpayers money in form of money transfers or loans with our State Treasuries signed warrant letters.
In no case.
While I think that Ukraine needs to get weapons and ammunition, medicaments and humanitarian aid etc like stuff.

Also MAGA crying about money spending included for example manufactured in 1980 ies and 1990 ies APCS calculated like museum exponat is 2 m worth etc like stuff. Pentagon already had admitted that they had 6,2 +3 b " calculation mistake ".
Cluster ammo is scheduled to be replaced and is very old, if this didn't had been sent to Ukr then U.S taxpayers had to pay for utilization and replacement, not only just for replacement. Utilization of cluster ammunition is VERY expensive process....
Now for free in Ukraine............