International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V14

[SandisLL]

Also I don't agree with some stuff my local municipality is doing.
For example to sent to Ukraine large bus built for western cities ....
To donate to ukr next portion from our local taxpayers money.
They had now sent next portion : 100000 EUR and this is from our mortgage property tax.
While municipality does have problems to get funds for their own properties repair....damn.
They had funded camp for Ukr refugees kids and this was money initially allocated for our local youth " keep away from daTechStreetz...." and designed program to gave locals some opportunities to start business with some tax discounts for first year..

In one city mayor had resigned after he had allowed to transfer Ukraine 20 buses and 61 ambulance car and all this stuff is built to be used on western European streets in large cities. With roads quality according to German and Belgian standards...
Damn. Ukr even some ppl had told that better if they had sent more Soviet era cars etc cos these are usable if roads are in bad shape ( condition ).

 

[Cid]

I understand the predicament that the Ukrainian people are in, and it is awful. However, sadly this cannot be a bottomless pit of money sent, and continue forever. There is no "MAGA" bullshit behind my statements, just almost 2 years in...what do you want? Funding forever?

Doesn't really cost America much.

Military aid isn't straight up dollars.

 

[SandisLL]

Doesn't really cost America much.

Military aid isn't straight up dollars.

Cheaper is to pay transport cost rather than to pay money for cluster ammo utilization ( cluster ammo is good and should be manufactured and used but here I mean stuff manufactured 25-40 years ago not fresh production.
If this old stuff does works on Kremlin then why not to send?

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

Where do these new posters come from?

Feels like someone sitting on multiple alts and when things quiet down a bit, they whip out one of these alts and start saying nonsense.

Spending 5% of US military budget on weapons that were being phased out to cripple a nearly century long foe seems like a phenomenal deal. We also don't have to send a single soldier to the battlefield. US has also got a ton of intel from its equipment being used against what was considered a near peer. We also know a lot of things like 40 year old Patriot system can stop Russian unstoppable mach 100000 missiles.

President Zelenskyy was and is a very effective leader.

How is Ukraine supposed to hold elections in occupied or battlefield areas? Who will monitor these elections?

 

[SandisLL]

Slovakia : government had denied supposed next military aid package for Ukraine.
Till today Slovakia had provided Ukraine with 671 000 000 EUR worth military assistance and unlike U.S and Germany they didn't had overestimated monetary value for stuff they had sent.
Guess how expensive Germany had valued Cold War era crap from East Germany they had sent to Ukraine?
Dear Lord....

 

[AWilder]

How is Ukraine supposed to hold elections in occupied or battlefield areas? Who will monitor these elections?

the russians would love to maintain the support they have provided for decades...

 

[PEB]

Ukrainian pilots are flying F16 donated by the Netherlands now. Currently in Finland I think? They are continuing their training but seem to have adopted. It looks like they are passed simulator training.

 

[PEB]

 

[SandisLL]

There is one thing.
Peter Pavel told that Ukraine most likely will have only one chance for counter offensive and IF this will fail then most likely west will start to be tired and will advocate some kind of peace talks with Putin.
He also told that west should sent more weapons and faster....also that Ukr should not keep ammo in large size ammunition depot's, instead should re distribute ammo ASAP ....etc correct things...
Peter Pavel is former NATO general. He was known as very competent military specialist.

I also agree with some senators that ATCMS missiles should had been sent earlier and in larger quantities....

Cos with HIMARS too one failure was too little supplies in initial period because Russia initially had kept large ammounts of ammo in dumps closer to frontline....later they quickly get that better is to relocate ammo dumps at least 80-90 km from frontline and better is to have 10 small ammo depots rather than 1 large ammo depot etc...

 

[Strychnine]

Pro-Tip: Don't become a collaborator and torture your own countrymen without expecting to be targeted.

 

[curryjunkie]

US Congress approves bill on transfer of Russia’s frozen assets to Ukraine https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11...transfer-of-russias-frozen-assets-to-ukraine/

 

[lsa]

 

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[MeatheadMike]

oh no, things are going from bad to worse for kiev panhandler...

https://www.rt.com/news/586853-us-ukraine-humanitarian-funding-runs-out/

theres also rumors that there might be a military coup n kiev and comedian/panhandler might be ousted soon

In terms of actual coup attempts in 2023 so far, the score is:

Russia 1
Ukraine 0

 

[grimballer]

https://www.rt.com/russia/586692-cia-sbu-kiev-assassinations/

everybody knew cia was involved in kiev regime terrorist attacks and assassination campaigns, but now western msm is actually acknowledging it.

this is beginning of the end for kievan panhandler.

 

[curryjunkie]

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

@grimballer


Forward to the 18 min mark to some real Russian propaganda....hilarious really.

 

[grimballer]

@grimballer


Forward to the 18 min mark to some real Russian propaganda....hilarious really.

as opposed to this charlatan spouting some nonsense even after western media and governments are slowly acknowledging that kiev panhandler isn't winning?

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

Fairytale time is over.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

as opposed to this charlatan spouting some nonsense even after western media and governments are slowly acknowledging that kiev panhandler isn't winning?

You said the war would be over when Russia got Bakhmut...well that hasnt happened. You also said UKR havnt crossed the Dniepo river and that was just western propagnda.
Without saying one of your same 2or 3 responses tell me your honest response to that Russian propaganda with a few old Russians dressed in military uniforms sing to little children telling them to join the army when they are older to fight Stan and many other evils....some seriously sick shit.