International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

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Ornife said:
I haven't been following this thread or topic as closely as you or others, but a recent BBC article does allude to the counter offensive exacting a very costly toll of Ukrainian lives. I assume based on this information the total number of Ukrainians perishing a week was extremely high at some recent point.

As recently as April, leaked estimates from the Pentagon put Ukrainian deaths at the much lower figure of 17,500. The alleged jump to more than 70,000 can be partly explained by the counter-offensive in the south. In its early days it was especially hard on Ukrainian infantry - "worse than Bakhmut" one brigade commander who is fighting there told me. The city in Donetsk fell to Russia in May in one of the bloodiest battles of the war so far.

Ukraine has now changed tactics there, but the beginning of the push to breach Russia's occupation defences in June was costly, for young newly trained soldiers in particular. They were dying "by the dozens" every day, one senior sergeant fighting around the Donetsk village of Velyka Novosilka told me in June.

The article also explains in part why the questions you asked are proving so difficult to answer at the moment. I don't think we'll have any exact information for years to come.

Ukrainian Deputy Defence Minister Hanna Maliar earlier released a statement warning that those who release casualty numbers would be liable to criminal prosecution.

"Why is this data secret?" she asked rhetorically. "Because during the active phase of the war, the enemy uses the number of dead and wounded to calculate our likely further actions… If the enemy has this information, they will begin to understand some of our next steps."
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Great post mate. Looks like the truth is finally coming out.
 
Yeah, number of casualities is classified info in Ukraine, LPR, DPR and Russia.
Also some bunch with hospitals in Belarus are on NDA and information disclose is criminal off with possible very long prison terms.
 
"...someday this war is going to end." ...and we are going to lose it.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
Half your post are about that!, dont you remember what happened in the Civil War? The North won because they had more men. So history will 100% repeat itself.
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Indeed. It has already. A few times. Maybe you are too young to remember. If you read more, you would know.
 
Ruthless Ryan said:
Half your post are about that!, dont you remember what happened in the Civil War? The North won because they had more men. So history will 100% repeat itself.
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that's just one of his greatest hits. Others include:
Trump and putin had a great relationship and this war wouldn't have happened if trump was president. (maybe partially correct but for all the wrong reasons).

Biden played a major role in starting this war.

Only way for Ukraine to proceed is with suicidal air drops behind enemy lines.

Something about the kind of ground they are fighting on?

Russians will use biological weapons, Sarin Nerve gas.

the search history is a treasure trove of shit-takes lmao.
 
The Union enjoyed 2:1 numerical superiority and vastly greater industrial capability. The South also suffered from incompetent leadership in the Western theater with the likes of Braxton Bragg and John Bell Hood. I'm not sure the American Civil war is properly analogous to the current conflict at hand.
 
Ornife said:
The Union enjoyed 2:1 numerical superiority and vastly greater industrial capability. The South also suffered from incompetent leadership in the Western theater with the likes of Braxton Bragg and John Bell Hood. I'm not sure the American Civil war is properly analogous to the current conflict at hand.
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Well according to him that's all that matters.
 
Russia had used a lot of pepper gas and tear gas vs some areas.
Sarine will not help too much for them cos any country relatively easily and quickly might produce phosgene and ofc chlor gas. U.N can't prevent this to happen as it had been proved in Iraq - Iran war...
U.N is paper org with China and Russia with VETO rights in security council.
 
GhostZ06 said:
lol you know one of the leads of Wagner was a huge nazi right? How about the nazi division that just stated they are gonna fight anymore in the Ukraine?


Want proof? i can post it
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you compare that to nazis being in ukraine government and instrumental in 2014 coup?
 
Chlor gas was WW1 era simplest chemical weapon.
You have cask, open it and insert powder No1 and powder No2 and prepare solution No X...
When wind is blowing to enemy trenches direction, add solution X in cask and open it.
 
grimballer said:
you compare that to nazis being in ukraine government and instrumental in 2014 coup?
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You are paid Nazi at first.
And how you might call as a coup stuff when parliament not president is lawmaker in country and so called president doesn't do his duties 8 months in row and therefore had been dismissed?
You might do your troll job 8 months in row without working and still to have your troll's job?
 
grimballer said:
yeah, im gonna book a trip to ukraine, take pics and post them here...

get real. kiev regime was exploiting the grain deal and used it to smuggle weapons
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Russians eats children and worships Satan.
I can make up shit too and dont have to prove it
 
SandisLL said:
You are paid Nazi at first.
And how you might call as a coup stuff when parliament not president is lawmaker in country and so called president doesn't do his duties 8 months in row and therefore had been dismissed?
You might do your troll job 8 months in row without working and still to have your troll's job?
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i get youre desperately trying to push that absurd narrative to justify western backed coup and removal of democratically elected president, but it doesn't work.

he's elected president and it gets to make decisions, not pro western opposition party that creates chaos in the streets and then "impeach him" in a mickey mouse impeachment that doesn't pass the laugh test.
 
grimballer said:
youre so brainwashed you actually believe that 1st part...
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No, I just make up shit just like you.
The irony is you are the brainwashed one.
You make lots of claims and never back them up.
You claim every bodies sources are lies and untrue yet can provide any counter information or sources.
 
AWilder said:
that's just one of his greatest hits. Others include:
Trump and putin had a great relationship and this war wouldn't have happened if trump was president. (maybe partially correct but for all the wrong reasons).

Biden played a major role in starting this war.

Only way for Ukraine to proceed is with suicidal air drops behind enemy lines.

Something about the kind of ground they are fighting on?

Russians will use biological weapons, Sarin Nerve gas.

the search history is a treasure trove of shit-takes lmao.
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Trump in best case might just to delay next war.
Ideas to cede something to russia in order to get long term peace is bullshit proven by history.
Stalin had called west as his allies and friends in 1945 th and attempted to conduct full West Berlin blocade despite treaties he had signed and with Russia nothing had changed thus far.
" Ukraine isn't country and ukrainians aren't nation..." Putin.
 
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