International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V13

[Rational Poster]

So you acknowledge those tax cuts exist? That's GOP wealth redistribution: Letting tax payers keep more of their wealth instead of stealing it to pay for shit like this.

I may have got mixed up on Biden and tax cuts. Looks like he is leaving those cuts in place while also raising taxes in a typical Dem attempt to steal your cake and lie about eating it too.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politic...ng-taxes-bidens-budget-trashes-trump-tax-cuts

Tax cuts are not wealth redistribution, lmao.

 

[Rational Poster]

Try again when you're able to shit out something worth posting.

California has the highest poverty level of all states in the US, according to US Census Bureau data
https://www.businessinsider.com/california-has-highest-poverty-level-in-the-us-census-bureau-2021-9

Let me know when anyone in the GOP puts out a plan to spend money allocated to defense on literally anything else.

 

[AWilder]

They could give it back to tax payers. That wouldn't get any backlash.

What am I going to do with a bunch of EOL military surplus?

 

[ShadowRun]

57k Ukraine salaries, so like less than 6k Americans.

War mongers will make any excuse

 

[ShadowRun]

And yet Republicans will still vote down any attempt of the government to actually help Americans.

Only thing they passed during their full house control of government was a deficit busting 1 trillion dollar tax cuts for the 1%

I know you fall easily for propaganda.. here ya go champ

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance...ited-middle-working-class-americans-most/amp/
Congressional Democrats have argued that one of the best ways to pay for the legislation is to raise taxes on wealthy households, which, according to many on the left, have benefited disproportionately and unfairly from the 2017 tax reform law passed by Republicans and signed by former President Trump. The latest data, however, proves that this claim is pure mythology.

Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.

 

[Rational Poster]

And I disagree strongly with Trump on that.

I accept your concession.

 

[AWilder]

I know you fall easily for propaganda.. here ya go champ

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance...ited-middle-working-class-americans-most/amp/
Congressional Democrats have argued that one of the best ways to pay for the legislation is to raise taxes on wealthy households, which, according to many on the left, have benefited disproportionately and unfairly from the 2017 tax reform law passed by Republicans and signed by former President Trump. The latest data, however, proves that this claim is pure mythology.

Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.

Lmao, great source. You aren't a sucker for propaganda at all.

Justin Haskins ([email protected]) is director of the Socialism Research Center at The Heartland Institute and the co-author, with Glenn Beck, of the forthcoming book “The Great Reset: Joe Biden and the Rise of 21st Century Fascism.”

 

[Rod1]

War mongers will make any excuse

This but unironically.

 

[SandisLL]

I read that the US has thousands of Abrams tanks it isn't using. Maybe the bottleneck is maintainance or parts or something but the number provided seems very small, if in fact the intentions of the government are what they say. I imagine tank maintenance and training is orders of magnitude easier that jet fighters- kind of a strange situation.

There are in reality 2 main versions and some additional versions.
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U.S like USSR had, does have 3 tanks versions; 1 st for U.S, 2nd for NATO countries and 3 rd for casual export customers.
USSR had 1 for USSR , 2 for Warshaw block and 3 rd for countries like Iraq etc.....

IF for Ukr had been approwed export version military for 3 rd countries...
and for casual customers then there they should have tank built for such purpose OR time and real funding to castrate tank built for U.S
---Next version is that U.S doesn't wants Ukr to win and in reality wants part of Ukr in the end to be ceded to Russia.

next sub versions are that Pentagon maybe is really concerned about weight after additional package will be attached.... it isn't joke.....Will be more than 75 metric tons.

 

[SandisLL]

Small business and 57k people huh

It is false spin in Kremlin souce.

U.S is fertilisers importer.
Ukr fertilisers for example before war usually were a bit cheaper than stuff sold by Russia.
So ofc, why not to purchase cheaper stuff?
And to tell about financing while United States in reality are milking Ukraine like cow in dairy farm.
To milk ppl and pretend like this is some financing?

 

[Denter]

There are in reality 2 main versions and some additional versions.
4
U.S like USSR had, does have 3 tanks versions; 1 st for U.S, 2nd for NATO countries and 3 rd for casual export customers.
USSR had 1 for USSR , 2 for Warshaw block and 3 rd for countries like Iraq etc.....

IF for Ukr had been approwed export version military for 3 rd countries...
and for casual customers then there they should have tank built for such purpose OR time and real funding to castrate tank built for U.S
---Next version is that U.S doesn't wants Ukr to win and in reality wants part of Ukr in the end to be ceded to Russia.

next sub versions are that Pentagon maybe is really concerned about weight after additional package will be attached.... it isn't joke.....Will be more than 75 metric tons.

I imagine this might be too heavy for the rural bridges out in the sticks in Ukraine?

 

[ShadowRun]

It is false spin in Kremlin souce.

U.S is fertilisers importer.
Ukr fertilisers for example before war usually were a bit cheaper than stuff sold by Russia.
So ofc, why not to purchase cheaper stuff?
And to tell about financing while United States in reality are milking Ukraine like cow in dairy farm.
To milk ppl and pretend like this is some financing?

Dang Russian 60 minutes program

 

[Rholk]

First time i've seen one in this conflict:

Spoiler

 

[SandisLL]

I imagine this might be too heavy for the rural bridges out in the sticks in Ukraine?

It depends from bridge.
For example one bridge in my area oficially does have truck weight max limit 10 metric tons. Due to surface design.
While it had been tested for 62 metric tons limit with testing weight 95 metric tons.

From one Abrams this bridge will not fall apart at all.
2 in the same moment on the bridge: yes, bridge will start to collapse.....

N.B it isn't in Ukr. we usually are using german standards for testing.....

 

[SandisLL]

Dang Russian 60 minutes program

I don't need mass media program.
I my area cheapest ferts were from Ukr, then Belarus and then Russia. EU.

 

[Goober stoober]

Lmao, great source. You aren't a sucker for propaganda at all.

Justin Haskins ([email protected]) is director of the Socialism Research Center at The Heartland Institute and the co-author, with Glenn Beck, of the forthcoming book “The Great Reset: Joe Biden and the Rise of 21st Century Fascism.”

Lol @ you criticizing someone’s source.

 

[GhostZ06]

 

[Goober stoober]

Lol great source! Ukraine has won the war!

 

[Strychnine]

FSB HQ in Kursk was attacked! This is like the C.I.A. HQ getting hit.

 

[GhostZ06]

Lol great source! Ukraine has won the war!

This isnt call of duty.