International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

[Ruthless Ryan]

LOL.

Why didn't you do that before the war then? Was the 240 years of your countries existence before Ukraine war not enough time?

Exactly... so when the war is over and the aid stops homeless people will rejoice.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

...and all the little seals clap!

Of course, I'm upset. That is US help going for a conflict I did not approve of.
I could swear there was something some years ago where the US told Cuba (a sovereign nation) that they could not have Soviet missiles in their island. Is that not exactly what Russia is telling Ukraine as it relates to NATO? It is okay when the US does it. Not okay when the Russians do it. Yeah, that double standard.

Wow, Nice spin on that Spinmarino. Peskov,Lavrov and the other cronies have nothing on you.

 

[PEB]

I truly never thought I would see the day where supposedly "liberal" people, would be so blatantly in favor of war.

Mad world.

You made an a$$ of yourself.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

I truly never thought I would see the day where supposedly "liberal" people, would be so blatantly in favor of war.

Mad world.

Do you understand that Russia invaded UKR? And that by standing up to the war mongering nation it set's a major precedent for other countries to not "start wars" otherwise there will be consequences.
Tell me exactly what you think should happen?

 

[Videer]

MaxxPro looks suprisingly good despite getting a T-72 to the noggin. T-72 reversing and colliding with the MaxxPro was shown by russian drone footage some days ago. Confirms that the area is under Ukrainian control.



Prigozhin angry again. Unsuprisingly most of the russian military bloggers have been rather positive since meeting Putin.

 

[Cole train]

So putins favorite journalist sladkov says minefields run for 25km deep which if true is ridiculous plus all fortified positions and air/arty support

Also says attacks are too uncoordinated to be any real threat but in the end this is putins guy



That being said prigozin saying all going according to ukrs plan

Personally think ukr is having trouble with SOSRA hence all problems so far but wtf do i know

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

This is a great breakdown of what Russia is planning and how they are running out of ammo and seriously reduction of tanks and may explain Putler talking about nuking out.

As long as the aid keeps coming in and the weapons that UKR are receiving are getting better it seems they will win the war of attrition. As much Armor and ammo Russia did have this has been an intense war for almost a year and half and now even they are starting to conserve a bit.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

COMPARED TO PUTIN INVADING UKRAINE, NO ONE GAVE A SHIT ABOUT HIM INVADING CRIMEA.

You really need it spelled out for you, huh?

Obviously a complete invasion is a more urgent issue than annexing Crimea and supporting a proxy war in Donbas. Ukraine's armed forces weren't even in a position to take advantage of military aid at that point either.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

MaxxPro looks suprisingly good despite getting a T-72 to the noggin. T-72 reversing and colliding with the MaxxPro was shown by russian drone footage some days ago. Confirms that the area is under Ukrainian control.



Prigozhin angry again. Unsuprisingly most of the russian military bloggers have been rather positive since meeting Putin.

Wow, he may be a madman but he seems to be the only Russian in command to tell some sort of truth or reality.
Putler still trying to lie his way to victory

 

[SandisLL]

Ukr doesn't use permanently located command points on regular bassis.
Russia too now is avoiding to do this.

Some trenches and bunkers erc russia does have even so far as 70 km from frontline....and they are continuing to build bunkers ans dig trenches...

 

[GhostZ06]

As well as operating a relatively large F-16 fleet, at least with the ex-Norwegian jets added to the total, the fact that the Romanian jets are very much still at the start of their second careers also makes this a more suitable training location, compared to other European NATO operators, most of which are already drawing down their fleets in favor of F-35s. Then there is Romania’s location, bordering Ukraine, which would make the movement of pilots, other personnel, and support assets between the two countries much more straightforward.

Now, with the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, and the United Kingdom all committed to the Ukrainian F-16 training effort, with Portugal and Norway also expressing their interest in joining, and with a potential location for this initiative possibly found in Romania, the program may be taking shape. This would also bring some significant benefits for Romania, too, with the promise of becoming an F-16 infrastructure magnet, potentially attracting other clients for training, and bringing a boost to its own air arm and its economy.

But there is still the issue of where the F-16s that Ukraine will eventually fly operationally will come from.

“The delivery of F-16s is not at the table now,” a Lockheed Martin spokesperson told Politico. “We are working very hard to start the F-16 training [with Denmark to train Ukrainian] pilots as soon as possible,” the spokesperson added. “Delivery requires a separate decision-making process.”

Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin says it’s ready to train Ukrainian pilots to fly and maintain the F-16s as soon as Western countries agree to provide them. Again, that kind of arrangement could also involve using Draken, and possibly other companies, as a sub-contractor to provide that training, in Romania. Lockheed Martin also said it would potentially be able to build new F-16s to backfill any jets donated to Ukraine, although this would be a longer-term proposition bearing in mind the significant backlog in F-16 orders at its Greenville, South Carolina production facility.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/romania-could-host-f-16-training-for-ukraine

 

[Feniamin]

Yeah, Ukraine should just give up. All of the rapes, castrations, kidnappings, and murder carried by Russia, just say "All good mane. We will cease to exist as a sovereign nation."

Next, you'll be saying that the U.S.A. should give back Alaska because Seward screwed Russia back in the day.

That’s exactly Russian/pro-Russian position. Like, hey Ukrainians, look at Chechnya - we will give you a lot of money and you can choose the craziest radical as your leader. Also what is funny that in Chechnya there is streets and stuff named after Avtorkhanov who supported Nazis and was even editor for some Nazi newspaper. Seems like it started in 1990s and Kadyrov still names streets and places after him.

 

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[San Marino]

Is english your secondary language comrade?
It literally says that the military aid package was overstimated in value, so now they can send more weapons.

Is it yours?
"As a result, the department now has additional money in its coffers to use to support Ukraine as it pursues its counteroffensive against Russia."

 

[Joe]

...and all the little seals clap!

Of course, I'm upset. That is US help going for a conflict I did not approve of.
I could swear there was something some years ago where the US told Cuba (a sovereign nation) that they could not have Soviet missiles in their island. Is that not exactly what Russia is telling Ukraine as it relates to NATO? It is okay when the US does it. Not okay when the Russians do it. Yeah, that double standard.

So by your reasoning. Russia is well in their right to invade sweden and finland now

 

[San Marino]

Ukraine wasn't in NATO, or even close to joining NATO.

Yes, I know that. Ukraine had plans to join NATO did it not?

 

[San Marino]

So by your reasoning. Russia is well in their right to invade sweden and finland now.

Yeah, did the US not invade Iraq and Afghanistan? Regardless of western support, it was still an invasion.

 

[San Marino]

Russia invaded because they wanted closer ties with the EU/Europe and not Russia. Had nothing to do with NATO, that's just Kremlin propaganda.

I'll just quote you back.

Man you are lacking logic on this subject.

Nothing to do with NATO? Try again...

 

[San Marino]

So you want to talk about Cuba and compare Russia to the US?

In Cuba the US financed rebels to oppose Fidel. This is just like how the Russians have financed rebels in Ukraine, so equal footing. What the US didn't do is directly invade Cuba to annex Cuba. Russia has directly invade another country, clearly showing that NATO was correct to worry about what Russia would do if they did not band together.

No mate, you missed the whole point. I was referring to Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba and how Kennedy was ready to go to war with the Soviet Union over the whole deal. Cuba had every right to have Soviet missiles in its soil. Plus, missiles could fly directly from the USSR into the US. The US already had nuclear missiles pointing at Moscow from Turkey and Italy. The US claiming the moral high ground when it had clearly started the whole 'nearby' threat against the USSR.

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

...and all the little seals clap!

Of course, I'm upset. That is US help going for a conflict I did not approve of.
I could swear there was something some years ago where the US told Cuba (a sovereign nation) that they could not have Soviet missiles in their island. Is that not exactly what Russia is telling Ukraine as it relates to NATO? It is okay when the US does it. Not okay when the Russians do it. Yeah, that double standard.

When did Ukrainians agree to host/station NATO nukes on its soil?

In fact Ukrainians gave up their nuke arsenal for territory guarantees....it's almost like Russian promises and treaties don't mean anything...if Ukraine still had its nukes there would be no war.

It is now Belarus that has been repeatedly threatening the West/NATO and is promising to host nukes on its territory after giving them up in the 90s.

But sure, you're extremely neutral. You might even say you're 'alternatively neutral' which goes hand in glove with the alternative facts that you prefer.