International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

[SandisLL]

The same Germany is helping Ukr only because pragmatic ( financial ) reasons.

IF Ukraine will go 404 , they will have considerably more refugees than they does have today.
Germany today does have more than 1 000 000 refugees cos Ukr war.
spinmarino is attempting to push story that they might just to sit and relax....
Of course for Kremlin it will be happiness, for Germany it will be torture.

Influx of refugees reduced when europe pushed up material, technical, financial assistance and military supplies.
Ofc spinmarino had been more happy if Germany now had more than 3 000 000 refugees.
He maybe is so delusional that is dreaming like this: russia is holy dream and locals will sit and wait liberators arriwing instead of running to " bad and dying west ".

Politicians aren't total idiots.

 

[SandisLL]

Then next dream is to pretend that Poland is some kind of small village with rural plebs.
number of poles in world is higher than number of belarus and ukrainian origin ppl...considerably higher.
Poland's economy in 2021 th was more than 3x larger than Ukr economy.
If shit in Ukr makes so much problems then imagine what will happen if shit will be in Poland?
Btw Poland is food exporter despite they are limiting production with quotas and they are full NATO and EU member not " partner ".
Germany even is getting part of electricity supplies and internet connections via so called informally ' Nordic Network grid ' ....
So not important for Germany....

 

[PEB]

Dropping hard truth about Russia sh$t show from a former Russian.

 

[SandisLL]

Next stuff about Poland.
Cos war in Ukraine Poland had to bear highest expenses in EU/ EEZ for refugees, spent sums are higher than Germany had to spent because Poland does have more these refugees than Germany.

There are 0 doubts that Polish electorate better had prefered to spent some 2,5-3 b EUR on weapons for Poland and some 10 b EUR for weapons to be sent to Ukr....
Rather than to spend this all together on refugees....plus to lurk where get additional money to help Ukr.
Poland does have highest number of refugees due to war in Ukraine and it does cost a lot..... each month more and more.

Especially because landlords are rising rent prices till heaven. They are able to do this because high number of legal economical immigrants influx and these does have $ to pay for rent.
These doesn't ask benefits or food. They are coming in legally and with money they are ready to pay for rent.

 

[SandisLL]

Next reality stuff.
During timeframe 01.01.2023 - 01.07.2023 Poland managed to prevent ~ 16000 illegal attempts to cross border.
From using classic local smugglers tactique till attempts to cross border legally with forged ( fake ) documents.

Ofc almost all such ppl in reality weren't starving homeless ppl, pretty opposite.
In best ( sorry for real life ) case these were just experienced medium rank criminals. In worst case ....terrorists ...

Ofc usually for criminals final target area in europe isn't Poland. It is these " rich " western european countries. Exactly like Germany, France, U.K.
Btw if about legal immigrants.....
Benefits hungry immigrants in europe usually does have 2 most popular FINAL target countries : Sweden and Germany.
Best benefits in EU/EEZ. Really generous benefits.

 

[SandisLL]

Immigrants from Ukraine sometimes are using fake ( forged ) documents.
One example: person using real identity and documents, exception was driver's lic. Fake.
This person had killed guy in traffic accident and then appeared that Ukr authorities NEVER had issued this person lic to drive car..
# Sadly it isn't fake story and it isn't public because court trial yet isn't finished, therefore law doesn't allow to post name, surname etc.

While Ukraine already confirmed that this person never had done driving exam and document peace is forged ( not produced legally and not produced on equipment Ukr is using to manufacture legit driver's lic " paper ". ).

 

[SandisLL]

Ukr like Belarus and Russia does have register with active drivers lic and it is very easy and quickly to check. Ask and you will recieve quickly YES or NO.

Ofc if immigrant is arriwing we are doing cross checking documents he/ she is providing.
If OK, then all is OK.
Then after this bit** might for example rent or purchase car and use fake lic to drive stuff. If b*** didn't had provided this fake " paper " in immigration process.
Passport, COB, etc= it is enough for cross check in databases.

 

[Billy no mates]

2014 Russia trained a nuke strike on Stockholm.
A few years ago a radio mast was sabotaged in Sweden Russia is suspected to be behind it.
Russia regularly violate Swedish airspace.
Gotland is seen as a very likely target for Russia based on its would be a "lock" on the Baltic sea.

All this before Sweden even considered joining NATO.

The Russian threat has been, and still is very real for Sweden and many other countries,

Yep , they have been waging a hybrid war against the West for a long time we've just been to complacent to notice or to corrupt to care , radioactive and nerve agents used on British streets , Czech ammo dumps destroyed , Dutch citizens murdered.........

 

[SandisLL]

Due to Ukr president's cocky attitude most likely support from Poland will be reduced.
Zelensky administration is attempting to use Urzula to press ....Poland about grain stuff.
While Poland is allowing grain tranist without transit fees ( unlike before war ).
Yeah, them doesn't likes that oligarchs companies are selling part of agricultural production allowed as just transit ," under the table " in Poland.
Poland was first country provided Ukr with heavy weapons like tanks and self propelled howitzers and unlike other countries, they had posted in mass media only after first batches of tanks and howitzers already had been delivered in Ukraine....

Now Ukraine is attempting to exercise pressure on Poland by using Uzrula and Biden.
It will not end well and nor Biden nor Urzula will help Ukraine here.

Poland definitely will reduce pledged ammunition, medicaments and humanitarian aid and weapons supplies they will agree to provide .....
Will be real fun for Ukraine.

Worst scenario might be if they will start to play like Orban.
Biden will not be able to help then cos CIA needs Poland...

 

[SandisLL]

moscowtimes.ru are posting that russian billionaires are hiring " meat ": mercenaries to be used in Ukraine.
I have no clue how legit is such info, especially because mentioned in article billionaires are well known as money saving and money hungry types. Without some solid promises or indirect funding by Kremlin such money hungry specimens will not spend any real money.

 

[Limbo Pete]

The west is not giving Ukraine what it needs to win this conflict: Surface-to-surface missiles.

Plus, yes, I don't think the US should have given Ukraine half of what it got in financial and military aid.

 

[lsa]

But only France complained when the US invaded Iraq.

You asked "What threat is Russia posing to the West?"
I gave you a very real example, and this is your reply?

You do realize Iraq has NOTHING to do with this?
Or is your opinion because USA invaded Iraq, its okay for Russia to train nuke strikes on Stockholm?

 

[lsa]

Yep , they have been waging a hybrid war against the West for a long time we've just been to complacent to notice or to corrupt to care , radioactive and nerve agents used on British streets , Czech ammo dumps destroyed , Dutch citizens murdered.........

Earlier this year, Russian warships are suspected of jamming Danish vessels GPS in the North sea.
Russia loves to bully smaller countries.
But some how they are not a threat......

 

[AWilder]

HIMARS is rocket artillery, not surface to surface missiles.

 

[AWilder]

"But if we just let Putin do what he wants, he'll stop!"

BIDEN is threatening us with WWIII!

 

[Devil's_Advocate]

Looks like the Russian bluff was called.

https://gagadget.com/en/288530-an-i...don-anti-submarine-aircraft-broke-the-ru-amp/

An Israeli ship escorted by a US RQ-4 Global Hawk strategic drone and a P-8 Poseidon anti-submarine aircraft broke the Russian blockade in the Black Sea

Spoiler

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An Israeli ship escorted by a US RQ-4 Global Hawk strategic drone and a P-8 Poseidon anti-submarine aircraft broke the Russian blockade in the Black Sea
By: Maksim Panasovskyi | yesterday, 13:19

In the middle of last month, the Russian defence ministry declared a naval war and hinted that it would destroy any ships sailing to Ukraine. As practice shows, threats do not work very effectively.

Here's What We Know
Despite the Russian defence ministry's threats, the Israeli ship Ams1 entered the Ukrainian branch of the Danube River the previous day. It became the first ship to break the Russian blockade. Moreover, immediately after leaving the port it became known that the destination was Ukraine. Nobody planned to hide the route of the ship.

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The Sahin 2 and Yilmaz Kaptan left Greece and Turkey and headed there as well. They were followed by Sealock and Afer. The security of the ships was provided by anti-submarine patrol aircraft P-8 Poseidon. Also in the sky was a strategic reconnaissance drone RQ-4 Global Hawk, which regularly makes flights over the Black Sea.

Source: Militar

 

[SandisLL]

Girkin was hardcore Putin's supporter since 2012 th.
When invasion 24.02.2022 started he praised Putin and predicted that 09.05.2022 Parade will be in Kiev and 09.05.2023 Parade will be in Berlin.

In the end of summer 2022 th Putin was angry that forces under comrade Girkin didn't had managed to grab more land.
Girkin started to make excuses and asked for more weapons, even more ammo and more $ ( $ to hire mercenaries ).
When they still didn't managed to grab all peaces of land scheduled by Putin to be deFacto occupied, Girkin started to critique leadership in Rus military and demanded more weapons.

Now Putin had locked Girkin in cell and launched investigation.

 

[SandisLL]

In this war russia did some very important mistakes.

1. Mariupol mistake.
No1. Russia, most likely with help from traitors and informants easily managed very quickly to encircle city with miniscule losses.

They might afforded to keep just some part of forces in order to maintain encirclement and slowly just " starve out " city.
While at least 1/2 of manpower and weapons they had used in attempts to conquer city territory....

Might had been used immediately to advance further deeper in Ukr territory....

It was fatal mistake.
Maybe mainly because idiotic propaganda had brainwashed also these liars...

Ukr had did almost 0 homework 1992-2022 to prepare def for Mariupol, Berdyansk, Bakhmut etc.
Idiotic excuses can't bear any more or less valid critique.
In the same Ukraine a lot of ppl are asking about this laziness and stupidity level till heaven covered with nice empty talks and empty PR.

 

[SandisLL]

2. Severodonetsk idiotism.
Russia during this push might more easily to bypass Severodonetsk and move forward faster + to prepare scenario how to establish encirclement and just " starve out " ...
Nope, instead we had to see politically motivated " Battle of Severodonetsk " because looks that propaganda purposes are with upper hand vs realibility.

 

[Cole train]

Btw fin upgrading their missile systems basically will be able to fire ballistic missiles

More accurately Prsm missiles which apperantly are atamcs follower and range is around 500 km

There is apperantly long range version planned which would mean fin could missile strike moscow in future lol but thats only in end of decade

https://gagadget.com/en/289445-finl...er-ammunition-and-prsm-missiles-with-a-range/