International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V11

[method115]

So, Blinken is running the show in Ukraine, not Zelensky. Do the Ukrainians have a voice on anything or is it just the US?

Hasn't Ukraine said the same thing themselves?

 

[Rholk]

Hasn't Ukraine said the same thing themselves?

Wouldn't bother too much.
It's a simple take from a simple man

 

[SandisLL]

Hasn't Ukraine said the same thing themselves?

San Marino actually wants Ukraine to loss and to be incorporated in Russian federation with 100% of Ukr territory.

This reality.
Blinken had told the same stuff I had posted months ago and I had provided explanation why and in details.

So yeah, I too orchestrate war in Ukraine?
Blinken told in diplomatic manner.

 

[Rational Poster]

• US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on June 2 that calls for a ceasefire are unacceptable because they will freeze the current lines in place and enable Putin to consolidate control of occupied areas and prepare for future attacks on Ukraine.

Interesting.
So, Blinken is running the show in Ukraine, not Zelensky. Do the Ukrainians have a voice on anything or is it just the US?

Yeah the Ukrainians have been asking for more weapons to kill more Russians.

 

[SandisLL]

If ceasefire had been reached today ....it had been super big achievement for russia. Russia doesn't control all areas they already had annexed on paper...

So what to do?
Ceasefire.
Putin will be able to use some part from these military persons he now is using to fight vs Ukraine.......to build even more fortifications in occupied areas.
Putin will be able to assign for this also more funds.

Ammunition and weapons will be easy to deliver to frontline without problems.

Manufactured missiles and ammunition will be possible to store and deliver till dumbass instead to spent them on monthly basis.

Then after some months or year etc...Putin will get huge advantage vs Ukr to continue WAR with lesser risk to lost already occupied territories.
Also accumulated close to frontline weapons and ammunition then might be used immediately...

Ceasefire: today it is to solve Putin's logistic problems in Ukraine and allow him to accumulate a lot of ammunition and weapons in dumbass.
Also opportunity to build more fortifications each day with lesser problems...

When Russia will be ready, they will attack again...

 

[2fast2see]

and?
Russian soldiers also wear Nazi symbols.
Do you have a problem with that or only when its Ukrainians?

Neither.

 

[Rholk]

Neither.

 

[Rholk]

No idea what to do with this, but i'll leave it here:

 

[GhostZ06]

Neither.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

• US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on June 2 that calls for a ceasefire are unacceptable because they will freeze the current lines in place and enable Putin to consolidate control of occupied areas and prepare for future attacks on Ukraine.

Interesting.
So, Blinken is running the show in Ukraine, not Zelensky. Do the Ukrainians have a voice on anything or is it just the US?

Nobody that is supporting UKR is asking for a ceasefire. It will be all for for nothing if they drop their guns have an imaginary line that Putin will honor while he just re arms and builds his army back up. Do you really think the UKR people want a cease fire right now or go all in while the iron is hot? Now is the time to keep it going while Russia has never been weaker and aid is coming in. If you dont see this it's because you dont want to.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

No idea what to do with this, but i'll leave it here:

Impressive...lol

 

[SandisLL]

Impressive...lol

This is WW1 and WW2 era method.
To create fake objects dummies and place under them soldiers or technique...
Germans and soviets used this tactique in WW2.

 

[PEB]

Wait wait Putin said Russian forces stopped Ukrainian advances what should I believe an actually video or a perpetual liar?

 

[SandisLL]

Ukr is using fake ( resin ) HIMARS launchers to force russia to use very expensive missiles on fake launcher.
S-300 SAM complexes in USSR had " dublicates " : infammable stuff like battery elements copies. For a reason.

 

[PEB]

That drones got moves lol.

 

[Cole train]

Guardian reporting capture of russian commander by wagner now



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...p-release-video-of-captured-russian-commander

I sense a movie trilogy about prigozin by hollywood if wagner would mutiny and head for moscow, like rocky but rocky is bald and bad guy

Edit the video

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Guardian reporting capture of russian commander by wagner now



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...p-release-video-of-captured-russian-commander

I sense a movie trilogy about prigozin by hollywood if wagner would mutiny and head for moscow, like rocky but rocky is bald and bad guy

Edit the video

crazy shit if true, Russians trying to take out Wagner and I'm sure the chef knows who is responsible. Surprised he wants to fight for Russia at all at this point. Must know orders must have came from Shoigu and Gerismonov

 

[AWilder]

 

[Blayt7hh]

CAS is not defined by how close the fire platform is to the troops, its about how close to the troops the target.

The concept of having an airplane strafe enemy positions with a gun is definitively obsolete to a point where not even the A-10, a plane that was built for such purpose, uses it as its main form of attack.

90%+ of A-10 vehicle kills was done with hellfire missiles in Iraq




This is an ignorant comparison, helicopters have a completely different role and set of advantages and disadvantages compared to fixed wing aircraft, that its another topic entirely of discussion.



It makes sense, because anything the A-10 currently does can be done much better by other assets, which would bring down costs.

As i said it makes absolutely no sense to have a platform built around strafing and then have smart munition be the main form of attack because otherwise they would be too vulnerable to enemy fire.



The only reason its political its because of the "brrrt" memes and how it seems that troops in the ground love to see an A-10 strafing run in action.

Its probably a big morale boost to see a friendly aircraft do a low pass and destroy an enemy position as opposed as to have an aircraft do exactly the same two dozen miles away.



Again CAS isn't defined by how close the plane is to the enemy, but how close the fire is to friendly troops.

If we go by raw firepower and loitering time, the best CAS plane is probably the AC-130 Hercules gunship, which is why the USAF is still fielding newer versions.

Brrt memes are not the reason. This fight was going on before memes were a thing. I told you the reason; the Air Force doesn’t want to pay for it. The comparison to apaches is not ridiculous because you said they’re too easy to shoot down, well apaches are even more easy to take out and we field those.

No matter what other options we have out there, today there is still a need to have air support that can get down into the thick of it and identify targets. The brrt thing is an excuse that’s been used to dismiss real life experiences.

The reason you think it sucks is because you decided it did and then went looking for all the reasons it sucks. That's why you point out that "4 of them were shot down" in Iraq in 91, and ignored the fact that it was massively successful and destroyed a massive amount of targets. Maybe you need to open up your mind a little more to the idea that it doesn't suck and the Air Force just doesn't want to foot the bill for something that is designed to support the Army and Marines.



Time stamped if for you right to the part where he talks about Iraq. Go ahead and watch through the retirement segment too.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

San Marino would agree with these numbers...