Law russell brand allegations

[avenue94]

She is the one frantically writing letters to not just social media, but mainstream media demanding deplatforming, demonetization, and a more intense smear campaign against Brand.

Were were letters relating Huw Edwards and Phillip Schofield also pysop campaigns, or does only Brand get that defense?

On GB news, there was a debate about the situation with Brand. One reporter suggested that action shouldn't have been taken until at least a formal investigation had taken place

That's a defensible stance, same with the stance that private companies should be free to associate with who they want.

This new online safety bill is the end of any semblance of free speech in the UK. Its a violation of the European charter on human rights. Dinenage is now calling for Rumble to be banned from the UK entirely, in order for the UK to be "the safest place in the world" to use the Internet.

I wouldn't support that but the UK has always had tighter speech restrictions. Not personally a fan as a free speech maximalist, but they're a sovereign nation.

I think as a society we need to have some laws in place to protect victims, but also suspects until they are proven guilty.

We do, Brand hasn't been lynched, jailed without trial, or anything else really. Unless you are saying you want laws that force a company to work with someone they don't want to, which would be quite anti free speech.

Was that the one who had consensual sex and was upset about Brand not using a condom?

It's an allegation of rape through and through. That woman is very clear about it. Why are you so confident in commenting on a news story you clearly have not read?

Read journalists don't use anonymous sources..... There's nothing more unprofessional. You could be making the whole thing up with no way to verify. Without an extremely strong piece of corroborating evidence that can be immediately displayed or used in the article itself, anonymous sources are bullshit.

So you think Bob Woodward's Watergate reporting wasn't real reporting? And I you don't get much stronger corroborating in a rape accusation than medical records and text messages from the day of.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Were were letters relating Huw Edwards and Phillip Schofield also pysop campaigns, or does only Brand get that defense?

That's a defensible stance, same with the stance that private companies should be free to associate with who they want.

I wouldn't support that but the UK has always had tighter speech restrictions. Not personally a fan as a free speech maximalist, but they're a sovereign nation.

We do, Brand hasn't been lynched, jailed without trial, or anything else really. Unless you are saying you want laws that force a company to work with someone they don't want to, which would be quite anti free speech.

It's an allegation of rape through and through. That woman is very clear about it. Why are you so confident in commenting on a news story you clearly have not read?

So you think Bob Woodward's Watergate reporting wasn't real reporting? And I you don't get much stronger corroborating in a rape accusation than medical records and text messages from the day of.

Actually, what the fuck happened with the Huw Edwards stuff? It's literally disappeared. Forgot that even happened.

 

[avenue94]

Actually, what the fuck happened with the Huw Edwards stuff? It's literally disappeared. Forgot that even happened.

They didn't find any evidence of criminal conduct last I heard.

 

[giusti825]

 

[giusti825]

 

[shinkyoku]

Actually, what the fuck happened with the Huw Edwards stuff? It's literally disappeared. Forgot that even happened.

still under suspension with full pay. Still under investigation. Investigators have warned that the procedure will take several months.

 

[giusti825]

 

[eddymotto]

Like I said earlier, if the Times has tossed journalistic standards out the window and they're making shit up, then fuck'em but how likely do you think it is they're making this up?

You think this is a "salacious newspaper smear"?

• One woman alleges that Brand raped her without a condom against a wall in his Los Angeles home. She says Brand tried to stop her leaving until she told him she was going to the bathroom. She was reportedly treated at a rape crisis centre on the same day, which the Times says it has confirmed via medical records

Now they have a rape crisis centre making up phoney medical records from years ago???!!!

how deep does this conspiracy go????

I find it difficult to believe that Rupert Murdoch just happened to step down as CEO of Fox Corp right around the same time as the Russel Brand allegations suddenly become front page news.

 

[giusti825]

 

[Andy Capp]

Now they have a rape crisis centre making up phoney medical records from years ago???!!!

how deep does this conspiracy go????

I find it difficult to believe that Rupert Murdoch just happened to step down as CEO of Fox Corp right around the same time as the Russel Brand allegations suddenly become front page news.

LOL I think you have to be joking.

 

[HOLA]

lol

Russell Brand pleads with fans to support him financially after YouTube cuts his advert revenue | The Independent

Russell Brand has urged his followers to support him financially by paying a subscription fee on a video platform popular with right-wing streamers. The comedian’s appeal for subscribers on Rumble came in a live stream just hours after the Metropolitan Police said it had opened an investigation into a “number of allegations of sexual offences”

 

[giusti825]

Once again

*Completely unrelated*

Expect Dame Dinenage to go after GB News for defending the principle of due process and calling out her absolutely inappropriate conduct over the past week.

Look for anchors to be fired, advertisers to be pressured to pull money and a full blown attempt by Dame Dinenage to cancel the network.

 

[emefer]

They're supposed to be journalists, not entertainers..... Adding dramatic effects is for propagandists, not unbiased reporters....

Didn’t the woman want to remain anonymous so they hid her face and used a voice actress?

 

[Andy Capp]

Real journalists don't use anonymous sources..... There's nothing more unprofessional. You could be making the whole thing up with no way to verify. Without an extremely strong piece of corroborating evidence that can be immediately displayed or used in the article itself, anonymous sources are bullshit.

You mean, like the medical records the Times says it has and which I already mentioned? Are you high?

 

[The Big Yin]

You mean, like the medical records the Times says it has and which I already mentioned? Are you high?

The term medical records is misleading. When somebody attends a rape crisis centre, the only material generated are swabs, the medical report by the examining nurse and photographs.

Since I'm led to believe this was not reported to police, these items are in fact the property of the nurse seizing/producing. The woman would not be able to get access to the nurses report as this is not standard NHS stuff. It's often a private company called Mountain Healthcare.

The womens own GP medical records may indicate she attended a rape crisis centre. These she should be entitled to obtain a copy of under subject access, but they won't contain any detail of the offence or scope of the examination.

 

[emefer]

The term medical records is misleading. When somebody attends a rape crisis centre, the only material generated are swabs, the medical report by the examining nurse and photographs.

Since I'm led to believe this was not reported to police, these items are in fact the property of the nurse seizing/producing. The woman would not be able to get access to the nurses report as this is not standard NHS stuff. It's often a private company called Mountain Healthcare.

The womens own GP medical records may indicate she attended a rape crisis centre. These she should be entitled to obtain a copy of under subject access, but they won't contain any detail of the offence of scope of the examination.

It happened in California so I don’t know what the NHS has to do with it.

 

[The Big Yin]

It happened in California so I don’t know what the NHS has to do with it.

Then ignore my post as I thought this took place in the UK

 

[Andy Capp]

The term medical records is misleading. When somebody attends a rape crisis centre, the only material generated are swabs, the medical report by the examining nurse and photographs.

Since I'm led to believe this was not reported to police, these items are in fact the property of the nurse seizing/producing. The woman would not be able to get access to the nurses report as this is not standard NHS stuff. It's often a private company called Mountain Healthcare.

The womens own GP medical records may indicate she attended a rape crisis centre. These she should be entitled to obtain a copy of under subject access, but they won't contain any detail of the offence of scope of the examination.

That doesn't mean these records don't exist. They're evidence that what she described likely occurred. It's hard to see how "forced to have sex without a condom on" should be looked upon as a media hit job.

 

[eddymotto]

Real journalists don't use anonymous sources..... There's nothing more unprofessional. You could be making the whole thing up with no way to verify. Without an extremely strong piece of corroborating evidence that can be immediately displayed or used in the article itself, anonymous sources are bullshit.

this guy gets it ^^^^^^

there has never been a legitimate newspaper story that relied on anonymous sources. they just don't exist.

 

[The Big Yin]

That doesn't mean these records don't exist. They're evidence that what she described likely occurred. It's hard to see how "forced to have sex without a condom on" should be looked upon as a media hit job.

I can't speak for how the Californians do it, but I would expect the report would contain a first account of the woman, a nurses forensic strategy based on that report, then the swabs, body mapping, images, clothing seizures etc.