Law russell brand allegations

[Goonerview]

Jonathan Ross and Richard Ayoade have come under scrutiny this week. Remember Brand and Wossy years back with Radio 1 and Manuel?

I remember that. And, what they did to Manuel was childish and rude … but, not necessarily illegal, iirc.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

I like his grift. He is a bit too hyper, so don’t usually watch, but has put out some good content.

likely bullshit, but we shall see

Same old narrative. If you want to descredit someone and make everyone afraid to touch him, accuse him of a sex crime. Especially effective if done via the news media years after it supposedly happened.

Works every time.

 

[fingercuffs]

I remember that. And, what they did to Manuel was childish and rude … but, not necessarily illegal, iirc.

Really out of order. But the fault of the editors for airing the phone call and not pulling the plug. Either way it was in poor taste. I'm likely going to get called out for my woman card but if he did it then fuck him, I just can't see the ferocious attack as is described.

 

[The Big Yin]

If this isn't a CT then it certainly looks and smells like one.

Brand is an insufferable lefty cunt. Peter Hitchins had him pegged as a moron when the media was fawning over him.

Last year he had his epiphany and realised it's all bullshit and that the government and media narratives were fabricated. He really did start to really influence people.

These are very conveniently timed allegations. Did Brand do this? Maybe. I don't know. Are the media trying to destroy his career. Absolutely.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Well if he committed crimes like rape then he will also be judged for the man he was at the time he raped someone.

Oh certainly, I'd be very interested in what physical evidence his accusers have saved & will be presented.... after 10+ years.

Otherwise, its he-said-she-said bullshit.

Unlike Danny Masterson, who had rapist rumors going around for decades, this is the first public accusations about Russell Brand that have been publicaly presented.

Reeks of bullshit.... so far.

 

[KaNesDeath]

Unlike Danny Masterson, who had rapist rumors going around for decades, this is the first public accusations about Russell Brand that have been publicaly presented.

Reeks of bullshit.... so far.

Russell Brand has a established history of being sexual aggressive towards women.

 

[tastaylvr]

He was also fucked up on cocktail of drugs at that time.

As I said, he wasn't an angel.
Probably mentally abusive relationships.

You can judge him for what he was then, or judge him for the man he's become now.

Personally, I've heard his commentary and its mostly not my thing. But he's been a positive influence since he's began posting on YouTube to his audience.

I prefer to mostly forgive people for sins from decades ago.

No offence brother but this post is absolute fucking shit. You think the "good" deeds he has done recently excuses him from rape and abuse?

This is not how the world works. You are absolutely crazy if you think you can forgive him from these crimes just because it was decades ago.

I'm honestly amazed at how stupid your logic is here.

In your world I can rape your sister today and if it is found out in 10 years then it is OK as long I was doing good deeds for a few years.

 

[Wadtucket]

Fuck this is drastic, he was my favourite stand-up for ages. His 2 auto-biographies are 2 of the best I've ever read. If he did this then I can only assume it was during his fucked up junkie phase and he didnt have a clue he was doing it...not that it's an excuse.

Fuck.

What a surprise that you of all people idolizes a deviant creep grifter, can't believe it

 

[Goonerview]

Really out of order. But the fault of the editors for airing the phone call and not pulling the plug. Either way it was in poor taste. I'm likely going to get called out for my woman card but if he did it then fuck him, I just can't see the ferocious attack as is described.

Russell Brand had a reputation for being a playboy in the 00s and was often photographed in the tabloids with a new woman on his arm.

I agree, I don’t see Russell being the kind of guy to do anything non-consensual. Hopefully, the truth comes out and justice is served either way.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Russell Brand has a established history of being sexual aggressive towards women.

No offence brother but this post is absolute fucking shit. You think the "good" deeds he has done recently excuses him from rape and abuse?

Based off of experience and common sense I'm immediately suspicious of rape accusations of political figures, but those suspicions aren't my final opinion.

What can sway me is evidence.

If his accusers have evidence, let them present it.

And you should have the same standard, unless your standard of guilt is mere accusations. Hopefully no one ever accuses you of rape, without evidence, and everyone automatically believes it.

This is not how the world works. You are absolutely crazy if you think you can forgive him from these crimes just because it was decades ago.

I'm honestly amazed at how stupid your logic is here.

In your world I can rape your sister today and if it is found out in 10 years then it is OK as long I was doing good deeds for a few years.

When I said he's probably had mentally abusive relationships, I meant exactly that. Mentally abusive. No where in that post did it excuse him of rape no matter if he committed it two decades ago or yesterday. Some things are obvious and don't need to be stated. Imagine if everyone in this thread in their 1st post said "If he ever committed rape, he should suffer the legal consequences for it." Yeah, no shit Sherlock.

 

[w00t]

2 things can be true at once.

Accusers deserve to be heard, but not automatically believed. It's still innocent 'til proven guilty... for now.

 

[fingercuffs]

What a surprise that you of all people idolizes a deviant creep grifter, can't believe it

I have no idea who you are, but you apparently idolize me. I've said my piece that if it's true I'm disgusted.
Your thoughts on his books and stand-up? His interviews with WBC?

 

[fingercuffs]

Russell Brand had a reputation for being a playboy in the 00s and was often photographed in the tabloids with a new woman on his arm.

I agree, I don’t see Russell being the kind of guy to do anything non-consensual. Hopefully, the truth comes out and justice is served either way.

I know he's just a celebrity but his books were gold aside from the stand-up and just general panel shows before he went political. I just really hope and in my head don't think he did...do it.

 

[fingercuffs]

Russel in prison, that would not go well for him. It won't come to that.

 

[tastaylvr]

Based off of experience and common sense I'm immediately suspicious of rape accusations of political figures, but those suspicions aren't my final opinion.

What can sway me is evidence.

If his accusers have evidence, let them present it.

And you should have the same standard, unless your standard of guilt is mere accusations. Hopefully no one ever accuses you of rape, without evidence, and everyone automatically believes it.

When I said he's probably had mentally abusive relationships, I meant exactly that. Mentally abusive. No where in that post did it excuse him of rape no matter if he committed it two decades ago or yesterday. Some things are obvious and don't need to be stated. Imagine if everyone in this thread in their 1st post said "If he ever committed rape, he should suffer the legal consequences for it." Yeah, no shit Sherlock.

My man. You said you "forgive" him for his sins. If you are suspicious of the rape then why are you forgiving him? If it didn't happen then it isn't a sin.

If you forgive him for the mentally abusive relationships then you are also a POS tbh. Mentally abusive relationships are the epitome of scum behavior.

If he did anything remotely close to what is being alleged then you are bat shit crazy for "forgiving" him. Mental abuse is worse than physical abuse in my eyes and they generally go hand in hand.

You are defending his past crimes due what you think he is now. Craziness.

 

[fingercuffs]

I'm (personally, fuck everyone else) a pro vaxxer, but I hope this isn't why this is happening.


“Amidst this litany of astonishing, rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that I absolutely refute,” he said. “These allegations pertain to the time when I was working in the mainstream, when I was in the newspapers all the time, when I was in the movies and, as I have written about extensively in my books, I was very, very promiscuous.”

“Now during that time of promiscuity the relationships I had were absolutely, always consensual,” he added. “I was always transparent about that then, almost too transparent, and I am being transparent about it now as well.”

Brand also suggested that the reports were part of a coordinated attack designed to discredit him because of his views. Brand has been criticized for expressing skepticism about COVID-19 vaccines and interviewing contentious podcasters like Joe Rogan.

“To see that transparency metastasized into something criminal, that I absolutely deny, makes me question is there another agenda at play,” Brand said.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

standard disclaimer:

if he did it then fuck him and send him to prison
also innocent until proven guilty
also let's wait for the evidence

now that we've gotten that out of the way, let's talk about the issues. in a sane world with high trust, most people look at this and say "whoah..not good, he's toast, but let's wait for the facts anyway". but in an insane world with low trust, so much polarization, and a demonstrated history of coordinated smear campaigns, attacks, cancellations, hitjobs, and pile-ons, i look at this and think it's probably just another one of those. doubt is in the air more than ever and rightfully so. blame it on the fucks who ruin it for everyone else.

 

[fingercuffs]

standard disclaimer:

if he did it then fuck him and send him to prison
also innocent until proven guilty
also let's wait for the evidence

now that we've gotten that out of the way, let's talk about the issues. in a sane world with high trust, most people look at this and say "whoah..not good, he's toast, but let's wait for the facts anyway". but in an insane world with low trust, so much polarization, and a demonstrated history of coordinated smear campaigns, attacks, cancellations, hitjobs, and pile-ons, i look at this and think it's probably just another one of those. doubt is in the air more than ever and rightfully so. blame it on the fucks who ruin it for everyone else.

Crikey Moses you have a high opinion of yourself and adore the sound of your own voice.

 

[Super_Nintendo]

Crikey Moses you have a high opinion of yourself and adore the sound of your own voice.

i would have rather said, "i doubt it. too much fuckery going on".

 

[Lord_Impaler]

Is this another thing where random women accuse someone rich and famous of doing something 20 years ago?