Rumor: Joaquin Phoenix Offered $50 Million for Two Joker Sequels

How do you feel about a JOKER sequel?


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Seems low for a billion dollar franchise. $50 million per movie seems right.

$50 mil is insanely huge if we're talking about solely salary (not net profit points). Not a B dollar franchise yet.

Ryan Reynolds (who is, alongside Dwayne, the biggest actor now) earns a bit more than $25 mil for a movie (earned 27 for 6 underground). Dwayne and RDJ earn around $20mil per movie.

Netflix is the only "studio" that can justify that kind of salary for a single actor, bcs there is no net profit thing. Maybe Will Smith manages to get above $30 mil for Bright 2 (not sure why, though, talk about meidocre movie) and again, this is Netflix we're talking about.

Also, that would be 10x of Phoenix's salary for the first movie.

Damn theyre banning everyone up in here.
Wtf? What happened?
 
Hollywood producers love profits. I get it. I totally get it.

The problem with Hollywood is that they don't understand that more than the characteristics of a property, people love the care and craftsmanship that goes into making it being presented to us on screen. In other words... audiences like good movies.

Hollywood thinks we like superhero movies. No, we like good superhero movies.
Now, thanks to Joker, Hollywood thinks we like supervillain movies. No, we like good supervillain movies.

After Marvel and Disney made an interconnected universe of movies, Hollywood thought we liked interconnected universes of movies. No, we like good interconnected universes of movies. (I'm looking at you, "Dark Universe"...)

Alot of it tends to come down to who is running the studios(or sub studios), generally I think Hollywood since the 90's has had a tedancy to be choked by talentless careerists execs. Alot of the sucess stories like Pixar and Marvel are relatively young studios were more creative people are in the decision making roles and more willing to take creative risks.

Beyond just being unoriginal I suspect alot of talentless execs actually fear creative directors, a director who believes in the film he makes can be a loose canon, willing to stand up to the studio and can potentially even depose execs if he's sucessful. By comparison I think studios look at someone like JJ Abrams and think he''s a safe option, a joruneyman director hired to do a job and nothing more.

In this case I would say though I can see a good Joker movie without Philps, obviously he had alot to do with the films sucess but I think Phenoix was really what elevated it.
 
Good movie but very odd that it became a billion dollar movie. JP was cool but his Joker wasn't even as good as Commodus IMO.
 
Jack reportedly got 60 mill for one Batman movie and that was in the 80s. Dat percentage though. Joaquin should negotiate a percentage deal on the gross in addition to the 50 mill.
Not sure this is the best environment for that. Will be interesting to see how well the theaters rebound. My theater's still playing the Sonic the Hedghog movie ffs.

I suppose in 2 years this should pass. Still, a bird in the hand is better than gambling in some ways.
 
DC needs the money, so that would be the most obvious move for them. Even if it won't be as good as the first one, it will still rake in the dough.

I will watch regardless, but I really hope they do the original justice with the potential sequels.
 
Instinct is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

but whatever, I'll watch it, used to good movies getting bastardized by unnecessary sequels

If we expect shit we might be happy with what we get
 
Is the next one just going to be a remake of fight club where builds an army then destroys something?
 
Not down. I liked the first movie quite a bit, and I'd like more movies in this style, like a Lex Luthor movie like that would be badass. But I don't need to see anymore of this Joker, it was a cool movie, but it told the story it was trying to to tell.
 
Update: September 13, 2020

Rumor: Joaquin Phoenix Offered $50 Million for Two JOKER Sequels

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In "Rumor Mill," we share the hard to buy rumours that don't come from reliable sources like the trades, but are still more believable (just) than what you might find on Reddit.

British tabloid The Mirror has run a story claiming that Joker star Joaquin Phoenix has been offered a whopping $50 million by Warner Bros. to return as the Harlequin of Hate in two sequels.

Despite 2019's Joker being envisioned as a standalone story, the door was left open to a sequel, and the unexpected critical and commercial success of the film - it grossed over $1 billion worldwide and received countless award nominations and wins - opened the door to some sort of continuation.

It's claimed Phoenix is open to the idea of continuing the story, and that, "They plan to make two sequels in the next four years, with a long-term commitment to Joaquin and his Joker director Todd Phillips and producer Bradley Cooper. It’s all about getting Joaquin to accept the terms - and the biggest payday of his career by far."

Phoenix doesn't seem like an actor who cares much about his paycheck, but it's going to be hard to turn down $50 million, and surely even harder to pass up the chance of potentially winning another Academy Award. He's also praised director Todd Phillips and the relationship they formed on set.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batm...-crime-in-two-joker-sequels-a178343#gs.g2mbfw
 
I like the idea of a trilogy but replace Phoenix with LaBeouf
 
I knew it.

They can't just be glad that a movie was done well with good creative minds. Their immediate thought is to just make MOARMOARMOAR....
Agreed. I want it to stay left alone. No spoiler but they ended the movie in a unique way also, that may not work well with a sequel
 
Typical Hollywood. Always looking for the next thing to milk to death.

With the exception of a few select things, Hollywood has been creatively dead for years now.


As for this, I actually liked Joker so I'm down for them to try another one. Especially if it's a good extension of the first.
 
Would be very hard to do. Is he now completely irredeemable? Is Batman seen as the stick in the mud foiler? Who are we cheering for, and why? Could you make it Batman trying to get fleck help because he reads his files, and Batman is regarded as the true hero for these efforts?


A detective Batman like what we had in the animated series would fit perfectly, and they should make it known that’s the tone they are going for. Include the ventriloquist and have he and fleck somewhat kindred spirits..
 
this movie does not need sequels it had a great and climatic ending IMO sequels would take some of the impact of that ending.
 
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