Rumor: Joaquin Phoenix Offered $50 Million for Two Joker Sequels

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Deadline begs to differ

Stating that there have not even been negotiations so far, and adding, “Multiple sources said no such October 7 meeting between Phillips and Emmerich occurred, and that Phillips doesn’t want to follow Joker by overseeing other DC character films.”

Deadline called rumors of the Phillips-Emmerich meeting “as flat false as earlier stories that Martin Scorsese contemplated directing the first Joker (Scorsese was originally going to be a producer but dropped out because of his crowded schedule).”

Of course, Scorsese’s own words reveal that statement as a bit nitpicky—and not entirely true.​
 
Typical Hollywood. Always looking for the next thing to milk to death.

Ehh, Joker demands a sequel. We need to see the Joker as The Joker. I have no problem with the slow build up but we need a film that can be watched more than once. Joker would be painful to watch a second time.
 
Hollywood producers love profits. I get it. I totally get it.

The problem with Hollywood is that they don't understand that more than the characteristics of a property, people love the care and craftsmanship that goes into making it being presented to us on screen. In other words... audiences like good movies.

Hollywood thinks we like superhero movies. No, we like good superhero movies.
Now, thanks to Joker, Hollywood thinks we like supervillain movies. No, we like good supervillain movies.

After Marvel and Disney made an interconnected universe of movies, Hollywood thought we liked interconnected universes of movies. No, we like good interconnected universes of movies. (I'm looking at you, "Dark Universe"...)
 
Wait till you get a loada this:

Okay here is the nitty-gritty. THR just spoke up with some wacky news. Little Monsters (not that one) director Abe Forsythe is going to make a new RoboCop movie, currently called RoboCop Returns. It’s not part of the remake universe. In fact, it’s a direct sequel to the first RoboCop, marking another step in this trend of choosing which films you are making sequels to and which ones audiences are supposed to ignore. No great crime there, I suppose, as the two RoboCop sequels we’d be forgetting aren’t very good (okay, the second one has some pretty great stuff in it).

If this is going to happen, it’s going to happen with or without our whining about it, so we might as well make peace with the fact that another RoboCop 2 is coming down the pike.
Robocop 2 was campy and good.








And bad
 
Phoenix could’ve went down the career path of making trash movies for high pay around the time of Gladiator but he chose a different path. More art house films for a smaller pay day.

I don’t see money swaying his decision
 
Update: November 21, 2019

JOKER Sequel Explored by Director Todd Phillips, Co-Writer Scott Silver and Warner Bros.

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Joker, the $1 billion-grossing comic-book smash, may take another look at the fraying mind of Arthur Fleck.
Warner Bros. film chief Toby Emmerich has met with writer and director Todd Phillips and co-writer Scott Silver to explore possible ideas for a sequel to the drama about the early days of the Clown Prince of Crime.

Insiders caution that the talks are very preliminary, no deal is in place, no storyline has been decided upon, and no script is currently being written. Phillips is also eager to make sure that any follow-up meets the artistic level of the original, which garnered strong reviews and Oscar buzz for star Joaquin Phoenix. Phillips was initially pretty clear that he saw Joker as being a one-off.

Insiders shot down reports that Warner Bros. and DC are talking about having Phillips do origin stories for other comic-book characters, revealing what cracked on their trek to the dark side. Any Joker follow-up will take years to pull off and DC has a busy slate. In the coming years, the studio will release Wonder Woman 1984, Matt Reeves’ The Batman with Robert Pattinson assuming the cape and cowl, Black Adam starring Dwayne Johnson, Margot Robbie’s Birds of Prey, and a sequel to Suicide Squad.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/joker-sequel-todd-phillips-1203410411/
 
Todd PhillipsHimself:

"A movie doesn’t make a billion dollars and they don’t talk about a sequel. Joaquin and I have publicly said we’ve been talking about a sequel since week two of shooting because it’s a fun thing to talk about. But the [THR] article was referring to other things than that that were just frankly untrue. I don’t know how it gets started, if it’s some assistant trying to gain street cred with a writer.

Here’s the real truth about a sequel: While Joaquin and I have talked about it, and while touring the world with Warner Bros executives — going to Toronto, and Venice, and other places — of course, we’re sitting at dinner and they’re saying, ‘So, have you thought about…?’ But, talking about contracts, there’s not a contract for us to even write a sequel, we’ve never approached Joaquin to be in a sequel. Will that happen? Again, I just think the article was anticipatory at best.”
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Update: September 13, 2020

Rumor: Joaquin Phoenix Offered $50 Million for Two JOKER Sequels

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In "Rumor Mill," we share the hard to buy rumours that don't come from reliable sources like the trades, but are still more believable (just) than what you might find on Reddit.

British tabloid The Mirror has run a story claiming that Joker star Joaquin Phoenix has been offered a whopping $50 million by Warner Bros. to return as the Harlequin of Hate in two sequels.

Despite 2019's Joker being envisioned as a standalone story, the door was left open to a sequel, and the unexpected critical and commercial success of the film - it grossed over $1 billion worldwide and received countless award nominations and wins - opened the door to some sort of continuation.

It's claimed Phoenix is open to the idea of continuing the story, and that, "They plan to make two sequels in the next four years, with a long-term commitment to Joaquin and his Joker director Todd Phillips and producer Bradley Cooper. It’s all about getting Joaquin to accept the terms - and the biggest payday of his career by far."

Phoenix doesn't seem like an actor who cares much about his paycheck, but it's going to be hard to turn down $50 million, and surely even harder to pass up the chance of potentially winning another Academy Award. He's also praised director Todd Phillips and the relationship they formed on set.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/batm...-crime-in-two-joker-sequels-a178343#gs.g2mbfw
 
Seems low for a billion dollar franchise. $50 million per movie seems right.
 
Meh. If you get Phillips and co. back along with Joaquin, I'd be down for it. I liked the movie a lot. But it really did feel more like a one-off, fractured take on the Joker mythos to me. That's not to say they would not be able to run with it, but it really did strike me as a movie that did not need a sequel.
 
Seems low for a billion dollar franchise. $50 million per movie seems right.

Jack reportedly got 60 mill for one Batman movie and that was in the 80s. Dat percentage though. Joaquin should negotiate a percentage deal on the gross in addition to the 50 mill.
 
Ultimately I'd have to give a cop out answer which is it depends on the final product. Meaning if Phillips and Phoenix are capable of making a great sequel i'm obviously on board. This goes back to when I first heard they were making Joker...people a few years ago were debating what was the point of a Joker origin movie and I was leaning on the side that the Joker's backstory didn't need to be explained but I always leave the door open on changing my mind if the end product is really good obviously.
 
Eh. I don't see a sequel being anything other than crap. Although the Joker is a comic book villian, the premise of Joker does not really lend itself to sequels.
 
Jack reportedly got 60 mill for one Batman movie and that was in the 80s. Dat percentage though. Joaquin should negotiate a percentage deal on the gross in addition to the 50 mill.

Yeah that's true Jack got most of his money from the percentage from the box office. It was only 6 million his salary.

50 million salary plus percentage of gross would be massive. Joaquin would be one of the highest paid actors today that's for sure.
 
This movie is begging for a sequel. It literally gets down on its knees and says put it in I'll do anything to have a sequel.

He might as well just do it. Everyone riding his nuts for 2 more films? Why not? He stopped giving a shit when he made that casey Affleck documentary anyway. Get paid brother. Cause theyre gonna do it without you anyway.
 
I hope he says no, no matter how much money they throw at him, and it kills any idea of a sequel.

I don't see it performing well at all.

The only sequel this Joker should be in, if Phoenix would do it, would be the Batman relaunch movies and him as the big bad in the second movie if the first movie does well for Paterson.

I was Thinking next he should just do,

'Lex'

And make it luthors origin as a sort of Wall Streetesque origins.

I mean everyone already hates successful money capitalists these days so he would make a perfect villian done right.

No Jessie eisenberg though please

Phoenix could’ve went down the career path of making trash movies for high pay around the time of Gladiator but he chose a different path. More art house films for a smaller pay day.

I don’t see money swaying his decision

Damn theyre banning everyone up in here.
 
"The Harlequin of Hate"...what an awful moniker for the Joker. He is arguably many things, but "hateful"(especially in the current climate)...he is not.
 
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