Rountree vs Hill is a hilarious physique discrepancy

[CatchtheseHands]

probably gives hill a very hard time

You're not even trying anymore to hide your bias.

 

[CuckSERVative]

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Average natty lifter

 

[CuckSERVative]

Hill did give us one of the best knockouts of all-time

And this KO actually kept delivering more KO's by making Hill think he's Mike Tyson in the standup

 

[burningspear]

hoping jamahal shuts the corndog up

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

The way Hill got finished was just embarassing, not worse. Khalil took a crap ton more damage than Jamahal to only end up with the same result. Getting 1 tapped and emoted on is better than taking career altering damage if the result in the end is the same. Khalil is not going to be able to take damage the same way anymore.

I guess that's a subjective thing. Hill's career became a meme, while Khalil actually rose in most peoples eyes. There will be some effect surely, Alex put on a sniper performance with a ~95% hit rate on significant head strikes, but he was finished by body shots, he wasn't KO'd stiff unconscious, so his ability to take damage might not be too hindered at all.

Hill took as many shots against Jiri in addition to being knocked unconscious by Alex.

In addition, Khalil has, whether by his own choice or luck of the Hill matchup being cancelled before, had a nice long time to recover, which in my personal opinion is the most important thing a fighter can do for longevity after that type of fight he had against Alex.

Hill Koed the guy who Koed Rountree (Walker)

4 years between those fights btw

he beat OSP and finished Thiago Santos

I would have picked Rountree against post exploded knees Santos in 2022 as well.
He beat OSP in the middle of a 4-7 run for OSP where he was losing to Tanner Boser, Nikita Krylov, Ilir Latifi among others.

I've got Khalil finishing it in under 3.5 rounds, should be a banger.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

I guess that's a subjective thing. Hill's career became a meme, while Khalil actually rose in most peoples eyes. There will be some effect surely, Alex put on a sniper performance with a ~95% hit rate on significant head strikes, but he was finished by body shots, he wasn't KO'd stiff unconscious, so his ability to take damage might not be too hindered at all.

Hill took as many shots against Jiri in addition to being knocked unconscious by Alex.

In addition, Khalil has, whether by his own choice or luck of the Hill matchup being cancelled before, had a nice long time to recover, which in my personal opinion is the most important thing a fighter can do for longevity after that type of fight he had against Alex.


4 years between those fights btw


I would have picked Rountree against post exploded knees Santos in 2022 as well.
He beat OSP in the middle of a 4-7 run for OSP where he was losing to Tanner Boser, Nikita Krylov, Ilir Latifi among others.

I've got Khalil finishing it in under 3.5 rounds, should be a banger.

Hill took as many shots but took less damage than Khalil. I don't know how OSP losing to those guys makes OSP less of a win. Boser is a decent HW, Latifi is a legit grappler and bad match up and Krylov was a top 6 LHW with very good wins. Picking Rountree to beat Santos isn't same as actually beating Santos. Yeah OSP and Santos weren't in their prime anymore when Jamahal beat them but those two plus Glover and Walker are better than any win Khalil has. Khalil is very good and has the tools to beat Jamahal but to say he's going to finish Jamahal for sure because he finished Anthony Smith and went 4rds with Alex is a reach.


When did we start over rating fighters based on how they lost their last one? Hill went a hard 3 against Jiri before getting put down, shouldn't that mean Hill has a better chance at finishing Rountree now?

 

[PeterGriffin]

If the same Rountree shows up against Hill that did against Alex, we're all in for a treat. Khalil's sending Princess to the MW division.

 

[jeff7b9]

If the same Rountree shows up against Hill that did against Alex, we're all in for a treat. Khalil's sending Princess to the MW division.

If fat boy is switching divisions he is going to burrito weight.

 

[93confirmed]

This is the 205 equivalent of Francis and Black Beast. Both guys hit very hard, they'll both want to be defensive and land first so they'll dance around for 5 rounds throwing jabs in the air.

 

[Benoitthegr8]

Roundtree by a more diverse arsenal and varied shot selection, mostly use of bodywork will be all it takes to melt and crumble Hill. I doubt Hill will survive past the end of the 3rd round,

 

[SalvadorAllende]

That Khalil pic is at the very least heavily filtered. Not that he looks insane or anything but he does not look like that live.

Hill has an miserable dadbod.

 

[flektarn]

If Hill would use any of his grappling this fight would be a wrap. But I think he's gonna choose to stand and bang.

 

[CatchnShoot]

Too bad.

Tubby Hill gets KTFO.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

When did we start over rating fighters based on how they lost their last one?

The concept of judging a fighter based on recent performance eludes you? You think it's more relevant who they beat half a decade ago? Listen to yourself.

Khalil is very good and has the tools to beat Jamahal but to say he's going to finish Jamahal for sure because he finished Anthony Smith and went 4rds with Alex is a reach.

Show me where I said "Khalil will finish Hill because he beat Anthony Smith."
Don't create strawmen where they aren't needed (they are never needed).
I think Khalil will finish Hill because he has looked to be in better form recently, has a more varied offensive arsenal, and seems to be the more talented overall athlete who doesn't let himself get fat as shit between camps. They are both strikers and Hill's striking is reliant on a basic one two and a counter straight with flat footwork, while I've seen Khalil BANGKOK ready.

Hill went a hard 3 against Jiri before getting put down, shouldn't that mean Hill has a better chance at finishing Rountree now?

I mean if you had the mind of a child who'd fallen from a tall playground, yes you could see it this way.

Hill took as many shots but took less damage than Khalil.

That's completely subjective due to a cut being reopened on Khalil's face, but I could agree with you as I think Poatan hits harder than Jiri. However, you forget that Hill also has him being KTFO in the fight before Jiri as well, leading me to think that 2 TKO losses > 1 TKO loss in terms of damage in this instance.

I don't know how OSP losing to those guys makes OSP less of a win. Boser is a decent HW, Latifi is a legit grappler and bad match up and Krylov was a top 6 LHW with very good wins. Picking Rountree to beat Santos isn't same as actually beating Santos. Yeah OSP and Santos weren't in their prime anymore when Jamahal beat them but those two plus Glover and Walker are better than any win Khalil has.

How would you rate a win over OSP today? Because it's 2025 and a win over OSP 5 years ago is fucking irrelevant currently. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Von Preux, but his time came and went by the time Hill fought him, let alone now. He fought against Lins and Ryan Spann afterwards, losing to both. You can take the semantic route of "Well he was ranked this number the UFC gave him, which we all know have nothing to do with marketing and are solely assigned based on merit" but no one wants to admit that they're a mark.

You're falling for the "feed the aging name to DWCS guys to build relevancy" thing. Santos has won exactly one fight since 2019, a decision against Johnny Walker, he didn't even have the power to put Walker away anymore man. There isn't a fighter in the top 15 that wouldn't have beaten that Santos, provably so since he lost for 6 years in a row.

Glover is a great win, but look at the difference between Alex Gustaffson fighting a closer to prime Glover and Hill being unable to finish him in his last fight. Just a pure showing of "there's levels to this." I still give Hill his flowers, as I picked against him and thought that Glover would grind him out, but he was too fast and strong for Glover at that point in his career. Teixeira had just gone through his 5 round war with Jiri 6 months prior to facing Hill, but Jamahal still became the first DWCS alum to hold gold, proving they aren't all complete bums, and no one can take that away from him.

Krylov is a gatekeeper on his best day, his current #10 ranking is charity.

I won't be surprised if Hill clips Khalil and TKOs him, I'll be even less surprised if Rountree tears Hill's head off.
I think it's fair to claim they're somewhere equal, at least, until tomorrow night!

 

[CatchtheseHands]

The concept of judging a fighter based on recent performance eludes you? You think it's more relevant who they beat half a decade ago? Listen to yourself.

It does not elude me, I even said that if we're going to use that way of thought then Hill should have a good chance at beating Khalil as well considering he went a hard 3 with Jiri despite getting finished in the end.

Show me where I said "Khalil will finish Hill because he beat Anthony Smith."
Don't create strawmen where they aren't needed (they are never needed).
I think Khalil will finish Hill because he has looked to be in better form recently, has a more varied offensive arsenal, and seems to be the more talented overall athlete who doesn't let himself get fat as shit between camps. They are both strikers and Hill's striking is reliant on a basic one two and a counter straight with flat footwork, while I've seen Khalil BANGKOK ready.


I mean if you had the mind of a child who'd fallen from a tall playground, yes you could see it this way.

You didn't specifically say it but it's kind of implied because outside of The Anthony Smith win and his performance against Alex what else has he done prior to make anyone believe he's finishing Jamahal? Khalil has a more varied offensive arsenal, when? In his last fight with Alex all he had was the 1-2 with the exception of a few kicks. You say Hill's striking is reliant on a basic one two but Khalil's entire game plan in his fight with Alex was nothing but 1-2's. Okay, we've seen Khalil Bangkok Ready ONCE, mean while we've seen Jamahal in similar form against Glover except he actually won the belt and didn't get finished.

That's completely subjective due to a cut being reopened on Khalil's face, but I could agree with you as I think Poatan hits harder than Jiri. However, you forget that Hill also has him being KTFO in the fight before Jiri as well, leading me to think that 2 TKO losses > 1 TKO loss in terms of damage in this instance.


How would you rate a win over OSP today? Because it's 2025 and a win over OSP 5 years ago is fucking irrelevant currently. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Von Preux, but his time came and went by the time Hill fought him, let alone now. He fought against Lins and Ryan Spann afterwards, losing to both. You can take the semantic route of "Well he was ranked this number the UFC gave him, which we all know have nothing to do with marketing and are solely assigned based on merit" but no one wants to admit that they're a mark.

It doesn't matter that it was 5 years ago. It still was a solid win for the time. Picking and choosing which wins/losses count and don't count to help your argument isn't really fair bro. First the loss to Walker doesn't count cause it was 4 years ago and now the OSP win doesn't count cause it was 5 years ago. I could easily say Khalil's performance against Alex doesn't mean anything anymore too cause it was a year ago and because Big Ank had a better performance since then and actually beat him, but I don't cause it's disingenuous.

You're falling for the "feed the aging name to DWCS guys to build relevancy" thing. Santos has won exactly one fight since 2019, a decision against Johnny Walker, he didn't even have the power to put Walker away anymore man. There isn't a fighter in the top 15 that wouldn't have beaten that Santos, provably so since he lost for 6 years in a row.

I'm not falling for anything. Santos was coming off of the Jones loss when he beat Walker, he was much still a top guy, you're acting as if he was years removed from the Jon fight when he fought Walker. Yeah he wasn't the same fighter anymore but to say there isn't a top 15 guy who couldn't have beat him is just untrue.

Glover is a great win, but look at the difference between Alex Gustaffson fighting a closer to prime Glover and Hill being unable to finish him in his last fight. Just a pure showing of "there's levels to this." I still give Hill his flowers, as I picked against him and thought that Glover would grind him out, but he was too fast and strong for Glover at that point in his career. Teixeira had just gone through his 5 round war with Jiri 6 months prior to facing Hill, but Jamahal still became the first DWCS alum to hold gold, proving they aren't all complete bums, and no one can take that away from him.

Krylov is a gatekeeper on his best day, his current #10 ranking is charity.

Yeah, Krylov is not a gate keeper lol. He has never lost to anyone that's a bum. More than half his losses are to former world champs (Jamahal. Glover, Jan) and the current champ Ank. The The other losses that make up his L's are Dom Reyes who basically beat JJ, Paul Craig (who subbed Ank and Jamahal), and Cirkonov, who I'll give you that is kind of a bad loss, but point is he mainly only loses to only the best guys. No bums. Saying his ranking is charity is ridiculous.

I won't be surprised if Hill clips Khalil and TKOs him, I'll be even less surprised if Rountree tears Hill's head off.
I think it's fair to claim they're somewhere equal, at least, until tomorrow night!

Yeah we'll have to wait and see tomorrow.

 

[Dionysian]

Swangin and bangin never existed until this moment

Absolutely. I actually find the gif funny in that Nelson had such a cartoon-level ungodly chin. Look at that ridiculous shot and he doesn't even drop. Same way I'd laugh if someone got ran over by a semi-truck and then they readjust their clothes, put on a top hat, and casually walked off the road.