Crime Ross Ulbricht Pardoned

[cincymma79]

No, he only attempted to hire hitmen on his own services to kill other people, LMFAO.

WTF is this whataboutism? Yes, plenty of us protested the pardons by Biden. That doesn't make this okay. Why are you defending it?

I don’t see that in his charges but even if I call it attempted murder it’s been long enough

 

[cincymma79]

Trump pardons 2 actual murderers and Trumpsters don't care cause it doesn't fit narrative they are being shoved down their throats:

Trump pardons DC officers convicted in man's death

President Donald Trump pardoned two D.C. police officers convicted in connection with a man’s death in October 2020.

www.nbcwashington.com

Just like you don't care about Epstein case anymore because of Trumps involvement..

There’s just a smudge of difference in those cases. Read the article you posted and see if you can spot it. Second degree murder is a tad much based on the articles description.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

overdose deaths SKYROCKETED after the implementation of safe supply policies in vancouver.

It transformed from trying to help addicts getting clean to keep the perpetually addicted to support the new safe supply/advocacy industry

sounds like a vancouver problem then. skill issue.

 

[Rational Poster]

No, he only attempted to hire hitmen on his own services to kill other people, LMFAO.

WTF is this whataboutism? Yes, plenty of us protested the pardons by Biden. That doesn't make this okay. Why are you defending it?

He told his mommy he would do it so it's a campaign promise!

Promises made promises kept lmao

 

[Cajun]

No, he only attempted to hire hitmen on his own services to kill other people, LMFAO.

WTF is this whataboutism? Yes, plenty of us protested the pardons by Biden. That doesn't make this okay. Why are you defending it?

I was really surprised Rand Paul supported it. I cant argue the 2 life plus 40. Thats a lot but pardoning doesn't seem appropriate. If one thinks 12 or so years that he's served is enough then at least commute where he will have the record. Still trying to make heads and tails of it.

 

[Ares Black]

It's only a good pardon if Trump legalises the sale of drugs online. If he does that then I can see an argument for pardoning him because what he did is now legal but otherwise I don't see the justification.

His sentence was absurd. He has already served more time than people who have done far worse things.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

His sentence was absurd. He has already served more time than people who have done far worse things.

Debateable. How many lives did his actions ruin?

 

[evergreenrider]

Yeah this is really fucked, but it makes sense considering Trump and all of his cabinet and supporters seem to be pieces of shit with no morals.

Trump does illegal stuff and only cares about money, this dude probably has an insane amount of money, so it adds up. Fuck this country

Supposedly dude has over 50k bitcoin...

 

[Lycandroid]

sounds like a vancouver problem then. skill issue.

its the same story everywhere this has been tried, Vancouver it's been done on the biggest scale. There is nowhere on the face of the earth you can point to where this system did not result in more deaths.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Supposedly dude has over 50k bitcoin...

$5 billion. If he's been lifting a lot in jail maybe he can get an account on here.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

its the same story everywhere this has been tried, Vancouver it's been done on the biggest scale. There is nowhere on the face of the earth you can point to where this system did not result in more deaths.

Haven't there been less deaths in Portugal? I'm not 100% sure on it as I haven't updated myself on it for a while but I read it was going well a while ago.

 

[THEfightsAREfixed]

not gonna pardon thomas clark tho ? weird ...

 

[Ares Black]

Debateable. How many lives did his actions ruin?

Not particularly debatable


He was sentenced to life in prison for a non-violent crime. He wasn't the only person involved in the Silk Road, but he was the only one sentenced like that.

He was a scapegoat. They wanted to make an example of him, so no one else would dare try to cut out the middle man.

Selling drugs and ruining lives is totally fine as long as you pay your taxes.

 

[Ares Black]

$5 billion. If he's been lifting a lot in jail maybe he can get an account on here.

His fortune was seized.

Today it would be worth $14B

Ross Ulbricht is free and would be a billionaire—but the U.S. sold his Bitcoins for $334 each | Fortune

Ulbricht’s conviction has been wiped out, but his 144,000 Bitcoins are long gone.

fortune.com

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Not particularly debatable


He was sentenced to life in prison for a non-violent crime. He wasn't the only person involved in the Silk Road, but he was the only one sentenced like that.

He was a scapegoat. They wanted to make an example of him, so no one else would dare try to cut out the middle man.

Selling drugs and ruining lives is totally fine as long as you pay your taxes.

I think you should consider harm caused when sentencing personally. He was the main guy involved in Silk Road wasn't he?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

His fortune was seized.

Today it would be worth $14B

Ross Ulbricht is free and would be a billionaire—but the U.S. sold his Bitcoins for $334 each | Fortune

Ulbricht’s conviction has been wiped out, but his 144,000 Bitcoins are long gone.

fortune.com

You can't tell me that dude doesn't have some stashed away on a remote hard drive somewhere.

 

[Ares Black]

You can't tell me that dude doesn't have some stashed away on a remote hard drive somewhere.

I hope so.

I doubt he'll be able to access it any time soon.
He will be do fine though. He's a smart guy and now he's a celebrity.

 

[Lycandroid]

Haven't there been less deaths in Portugal? I'm not 100% sure on it as I haven't updated myself on it for a while but I read it was going well a while ago.

Portugal doesn't have a government funded safe supply. They have a decriminalization policy in which instead of jailtime if you are caught with drugs you given the option for rehabilitation or prosecution. Open drug use isn't tolerated. In Vancouver forced rehabilitation has been brushed aside because it's a human rights violation. They have a system that perpetuates addiction where in Portugal there is an actually effort to get people clean. One system has a giant snowball effect while the other does reduce deaths.

The problem is the Vancouver style approach is more commonly used as it creates a huge profitable industry.

 

[Ares Black]

I think you should consider harm caused when sentencing personally.

There is a case to be made the the Silk Road made buying drugs safer.

He was the main guy involved in Silk Road wasn't he?

Now THAT is debatable. And no, I don't think he was. He was an admin that got caught.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Portugal doesn't have a government funded safe supply. They have a decriminalization policy in which instead of jailtime if you are caught with drugs you given the option for rehabilitation or prosecution. Open drug use isn't tolerated. In Vancouver forced rehabilitation has been brushed aside because it's a human rights violation. They have a system that perpetuates addiction where in Portugal there is an actually effort to get people clean. One system has a giant snowball effect while the other does reduce deaths.

The problem is the Vancouver style approach is more commonly used as it creates a huge profitable industry.

Yeah I think in general I'd be in favour of decriminalisation rather than legalisation. I don't think drugs should be freely available but I also don't think that giving drug addicts criminal records just for being drug addicts helps them rehabilitate.