Crime Ross Ulbricht Pardoned

[cincymma79]

Biden pardons an actual murderer and nobody cares. Pardon a guy who didn’t and vaginas are inflamed

 

[calavera2]

Yeah. I get.

The whole thing is DPR created a system that was very arguable better and safer. Which isn't really that difficult given how poorly drug prohibition has worked.

As a society we don't throw people in jail because a product they've sold has resulted in death. There's a whole process involved because thousands of items that we use all the time can result in death. Negligence, culpability etc.


My main annoyance though is a conservative president pardoned the guy who sold drugs online.

Dunking on Trump in this instance is just grossly irresponsible. Whether or not his heart was in the right place or whether he even knew what he was doing or who DPR was.... I think that's irrelevant.

America has a massive drug problem and the party that has been advocating more of the same just released DPR.

Lefties should take the win and try to get more, not dunk on him. Talking about drugs with real solutions not involving mass incarceration is not typically a Republican position.

you're a dumb fuck...no way trump has a noble motivation...1000 percent the dude bought his pardon...Trump is for sales

Double dumbfuck for stating drugs are safer because they are more easily accessible...are you a fan of the Sackler family?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

take a walk along hastings street in vancouver while stepping over all the dead bodies and come back to me if you think safe supply is going to work

surely those people wouldn't die if drugs were even less safe lol

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

This is a pretty odd thing to say considering the main reason for Silk Road's downfall was that it was directly linked to multiple overdose deaths.

then maybe they weren't as safe as i was led to believe but i was pretty sure they were pretty damn accurate on dosages and potency. obviously all of that shit could be EVEN safer and simpler.

Not even getting into the fact that hitmen and human traffickers offered their services on the site..

that's fair. i guess i wasn't aware.

 

[evergreenrider]

Fuck that anyone involved in anyway with the dark web is or has abated CP and s

Not at all lol. The Silk Road isn't the entirety of " the dark web". He started with good intentions. But he was a dumb kid that got in so incredibly over his head shit got out of control. Other dark web listings/sites dealt in cp, but as far as I know it was banned on the road.

 

[evergreenrider]

then maybe they weren't as safe as i was led to believe but i was pretty sure they were pretty damn accurate on dosages and potency. obviously all of that shit could be EVEN safer and simpler.

that's fair. i guess i wasn't aware.

You cannot control what the end user consumes. Recommend dosages vary so wildly person to person depending on history, weight, age, etc. We all know, some people just go too fucking hard. They do it with everything in life, of course some of those types find drugs and fuck up and die taking too much. Sellers on Silk Road had their drugs tested for purity potency. You'd see listing's that, for instance, be for 96% cocaine. Or 97% heroin. Pure, "clean" drug of which the end user seek

 

[Ares Black]

Bro literally was a dark web money launderer and salesman for international drug cartels.

And he served his time

 

[Ares Black]

President Donald Trump pardons Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht

Fulfilling a campaign promise to libertarians and the bitcoin community, the Silk Road founder's life sentence without parole is now over.

reason.com

President Donald Trump, fulfilling a promise made at the Libertarian Party's National Convention in May, pardoned Ross Ulbricht today. Ulbricht had been serving a life sentence for his role in founding and operating the dark web marketplace Silk Road.

As Trump put it in a Truth Social post: "in honor of [his mother Lyn Ulbricht], and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross." He said "the scum that worked to convict him were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern-day weaponization of government against me."

Pretty wild. I didn't think this guy would ever get out. I recommend American Kingpin for a read or listen to the case file podcast episodes on this story if you guys aren't familiar with the case.

One of the only things Trump has done that I wholeheartedly agree with. He should have done it the first time he was President.

 

[Lycandroid]

surely those people wouldn't die if drugs were even less safe lol

overdose deaths SKYROCKETED after the implementation of safe supply policies in vancouver.

It transformed from trying to help addicts getting clean to keep the perpetually addicted to support the new safe supply/advocacy industry

 

[evergreenrider]

overdose deaths SKYROCKETED after the implementation of safe supply policies in vancouver.

It transformed from trying to help addicts getting clean to keep the perpetually addicted to support the new safe supply/advocacy industry

Because the homeless industrial complex isn't designed to fix anything. You can't just give fucking homeless junkies new needles everyday, you're simply enabling at that point. But yes, let's also ignore the 10s of millions of recreational drug users. Its only the disgusting bums using.

 

[SoSo]

take a walk along hastings street in vancouver while stepping over all the dead bodies and come back to me if you think safe supply is going to work

Some people can't be saved. Just like certain alcoholics. This alcoholic, this alcoholic is just fine btw.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Silk road market didn't get people killed at all.

People die from drug use because people like to do drugs. Drug use gets people killed.

Saying that a system of drug distribution that was substantially safer than the alternative got those people killed is straight out bullshit. Whatever system we create to deal with drugs will result in deaths.

"Oh people still died doing drugs therefore you are responsible for those deaths" C'mon man.

People died because his substantially safer system wasn't perfect is an absurd standard for mining processes let alone drug use.

Also
Deutsche bank was fined $186 million for laundering money.
Silk Road generated $183 million dollars in sales in the time it was active.

Saying that he should be incarcerated for cartel drug money laundering when his website did less sales than real money launderers face in fines for laundering money is straight bullshit too.

You're selling a bunch of bullshit.


Whether he actually had people killed for money. That's the issue. Otherwise good pardon.

It's only a good pardon if Trump legalises the sale of drugs online. If he does that then I can see an argument for pardoning him because what he did is now legal but otherwise I don't see the justification.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Mixed feelings about this one.
on one hand, getting two life sentences and extra on top is just comical. fuck outta here with that shit.
on the other, dude DID create a gigantic fucking illegal distribution network which grew to include all sorts of crazy shit.
i'd say a fair sentence would have been something like 15 years.
saw him out. he looked quite good. he's probably going to start writing books and doing appearances at bitcoin conferences.

 

[italiamusica]

Yeah this is really fucked, but it makes sense considering Trump and all of his cabinet and supporters seem to be pieces of shit with no morals.

Trump does illegal stuff and only cares about money, this dude probably has an insane amount of money, so it adds up. Fuck this country

 

[Brigfa2]

Almost as bad as Joe pardoning Hunter!

 

[Brigfa2]

Yeah this is really fucked, but it makes sense considering Trump and all of his cabinet and supporters seem to be pieces of shit with no morals.

Trump does illegal stuff and only cares about money, this dude probably has an insane amount of money, so it adds up. Fuck this country

Fuck your country

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Fuck your country

I think his country is America lol or at least that's the way it read.

 

[Heisenboom]

I think his country is America lol or at least that's the way it read.

America is a continent. Sorry, couldn't help myself.