Rose won’t be appreciated until she’s gone. She’s my all time greatest in WMMA.

[MigitAs]

WMMA River Phoenix was never my friend

Also hate how we aren’t allowed to talk about her and Pat

 

[Laheys'Liquorland]

She’s had some bad fights.
She’s a little bit loopy. Which fighter isn’t though?

But MAN, she has some moments in her career that are fucking incredible. JJ was on some Attila the Hun shit until she race face first into Rose’s elite level footwork and boxing.

. I’ll miss her when she retires, which’ll probably be sooner rather than later.

She took out prime JJ when no one thought she could be beat.
Relax my dude. MMA fans will remember this.

It's the internet, you should be used to being trolled by now.

Most of her heat comes from the Pat Barry effect.

And she took away her hair from us. She was eye candy and skilled...then became badly coached without using skill.

 

[Jose Beehive]

Fought 3 times in 2024 the most active year of her career, pretty impressive imo never mind like her whole career and talent and stuff.

 

[Hog-train]

Weili already lost twice to Rose and she's like 35. She also never fights.

She's one of the few female fighters where I'm as excited as seeing the men fighting.

She has exciting fights.

 

[Team SerJoe]

Rose’s skillset isn’t as high as I would like to consider her as the best WMMA. Her inability to beat the highest level grapplers omit her from WMMA goat status tbh

 

[HHJ]

She's had a weird career.

Obviousy very talented but...

she has several losses to average at best fighters.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Joanna and Weili..,ok

Waterson is trash, Hill is trash! Didn’t Rose get dumped on her head against Andrade? Other than those two you mentioned, what else has she done in terms of dominance in a fight? Nothing! Absolutely boring! Facts

Waterson and Hill are both mainstays in the Top Ten. They are objectively not trash.

She also absolutely dominated Ribas and Cortez

 

[CutStryker]

Waterson and Hill are both mainstays in the Top Ten. They are objectively not trash.

She also absolutely dominated Ribas and Cortez

Pffff Waterson is done! Hill is a “mainstay” and won’t go anywhere near a title. Mediocre at best in the women’s UFC

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

Pffff Waterson is done! Hill is a “mainstay” and won’t go anywhere near a title. Mediocre at best in the women’s UFC

Waterson wasn’t done at the time she fought Rose.

So…. Are you saying every fighter that doesn’t become world champion is mediocre? That’s ridiculous.

Just making it to the UFC is difficult. The average UFC fighter only has 3 fights with company. Anyone who is on the roster for years is expectional. Anyone who gets into the ranking is elite.

 

[BangBang]

A mercurial talent. Peak as good as anyone at SW, shame it didn't last.

 

[Koro_11]

She’s had some bad fights.
She’s a little bit loopy. Which fighter isn’t though?

But MAN, she has some moments in her career that are fucking incredible. JJ was on some Attila the Hun shit until she race face first into Rose’s elite level footwork and boxing.

. I’ll miss her when she retires, which’ll probably be sooner rather than later.

I agree, I’ll only appreciate her when she’s gone and I don’t have to watch her boring ass fights anymore. Hopefully she’ll take the rest of WMMA with her.

 

[CutStryker]

Waterson wasn’t done at the time she fought Rose.

So…. Are you saying every fighter that doesn’t become world champion is mediocre? That’s ridiculous.

Just making it to the UFC is difficult. The average UFC fighter only has 3 fights with company. Anyone who is on the roster for years is expectional. Anyone who gets into the ranking is elite.

As a whole, Waterson and Hill haven’t finished most of their opponents. They fight to a mediocre plateau. It’s easy to determine because their fights end in decisions. That’s not elite! Elite fighters in the UFC finish with KO’s and submissions.

 

[CutStryker]

Waterson wasn’t done at the time she fought Rose.

So…. Are you saying every fighter that doesn’t become world champion is mediocre? That’s ridiculous.

Just making it to the UFC is difficult. The average UFC fighter only has 3 fights with company. Anyone who is on the roster for years is expectional. Anyone who gets into the ranking is elite.

Yes, getting to the UFC is exceptional. However, take it a step further. Now that they’re in the UFC, have they dominated most of their fights with knockouts and submissions? (Waterson, Hill) Just answer this one question.

 

[MarleyLynx]

Rose is the BJ Penn of WMMA

 

[CutStryker]

Waterson wasn’t done at the time she fought Rose.

So…. Are you saying every fighter that doesn’t become world champion is mediocre? That’s ridiculous.

Just making it to the UFC is difficult. The average UFC fighter only has 3 fights with company. Anyone who is on the roster for years is expectional. Anyone who gets into the ranking is elite.

Furthermore, you’re looking at the small picture of just being in the UFC. The big picture is being an elite fighter ie finishing fights with KO’s, TKO’s and submissions. This leads to becoming a dominate champion. Just look at the men in the UFC that are or were champion. They’ve finished guys with these KO’s etc… maybe not Belal but most all others have.

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

As a whole, Waterson and Hill haven’t finished most of their opponents. They fight to a mediocre plateau. It’s easy to determine because their fights end in decisions. That’s not elite! Elite fighters in the UFC finish with KO’s and submissions.

Yes, getting to the UFC is exceptional. However, take it a step further. Now that they’re in the UFC, have they dominated most of their fights with knockouts and submissions? (Waterson, Hill) Just answer this one question.

Furthermore, you’re looking at the small picture of just being in the UFC. The big picture is being an elite fighter ie finishing fights with KO’s, TKO’s and submissions. This leads to becoming a dominate champion. Just look at the men in the UFC that are or were champion. They’ve finished guys with these KO’s etc… maybe not Belal but most all others have.

This is terrible take. There plenty of fighters that get alot of KO/Finishes that are not elite.

Conversely there are fighters that get few or almost no finishes that are elite.

Gerald Meershart has gotten finish in every single one of UFC wins but has never cracked the TOP Ten. Jim Miller is #2 of all time in finishes. Joe Lauzon is top ten all time in finishes

Belal Muhammad has only a single finish in his last 9 fights but he is elite. Sean Strickland was just champ he had one finish in his last 10 fights. Leon Edwrds was just champ has 1 finish in last 9 fights. Merab is champ he has only one finish in his last 13 fights.

 

[badascan]

She's awesome and so are earthships...

 

[CutStryker]

This is terrible take. There plenty of fighters that get alot of KO/Finishes that are not elite.

Conversely there are fighters that get few or almost no finishes that are elite.

Gerald Meershart has gotten finish in every single one of UFC wins but has never cracked the TOP Ten. Jim Miller is #2 of all time in finishes. Joe Lauzon is top ten all time in finishes

Belal Muhammad has only a single finish in his last 9 fights but he is elite. Sean Strickland was just champ he had one finish in his last 10 fights. Leon Edwrds was just champ has 1 finish in last 9 fights. Merab is champ he has only one finish in his last 13 fights.

It’s also who you finish and their ranking. Meershart probably hasn’t fought anyone in the top ten of his division thus hasn’t been near championship contention. Same with Miller and Lauzon. They finish people but not the top ten or 5 of their divisions. Thus they’re not champions. Hill and Waterson are not elite. Stop it already

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

It’s also who you finish and their ranking. Meershart probably hasn’t fought anyone in the top ten of his division thus hasn’t been near championship contention. Same with Miller and Lauzon. They finish people but not the top ten or 5 of their divisions. Thus they’re not champions. Hill and Waterson are not elite. Stop it already

Me stop it. You are the one being irrational.

There is difference for being exciting and being elite. Learn it

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

It’s easy to determine because their fights end in decisions. That’s not elite! Elite fighters in the UFC finish with KO’s and submissions.

Tell me you don't pay attention watching the UFC without telling me you don't pay attention watching the UFC. That's not how that shit works at all. Belal must be a mediocre fighter who is wearing a championship belt right now

Hill has done incredibly well considering her lack of inflation from regional wins and the extraordinary amount of robberies she's fallen victim to. She should easily have made top 5, and has been ranked almost her entire UFC career. That's not mediocre