Ronda Rousey v Cris Cyborg - Size Comparison

[clayj]

Fighters fighting at at least two weight classes is very common. If it happens on the Men's divisions it certainly happens in the women's divisions too. But maybe you could enlighten us with the additional names beyond the four names provided that fought at weight classes below 135 pounds.

In addition I have already shown that a fighters fights in other weight classes doesn't mean crap. Otherwise Rumble has discredited every fighter he fought in several weight classes. And since Hendo lost fights at Middle Weight I suppose this means his victories at Light Heavy Weight put blemishes on his opponents records too. Poor Fedor and Shogun got beat by a Middle Weight. The whole argument is nonsense.

Again, you are missing the point, it is that girls have gone up to fight Cyborg just for one-off fights, without staying at 145 because they weren't 145 pounders. Cyborg has spent her career being a huge 145 pounder fighting girls that aren't even in that weight class. So yeah, nearly a 1/3 of her fights have been against girls who have even competed at 125 and most of the rest at 135.

If 1/3 of Ronda's fights were against 115 pounders we would never hear the end of it.

 

[clayj]

Julia Budd is in Bellator while Cyborg is in Invicta FC. While they can contract to fight each other it is not as easy as opponents in your own organization. I suspect it will eventually happen if she continues to win.

Arlene Blencowe is also in Bellator. She lost tonight to Marloes Coenen by Submission so I suspect her ranking will go down.

Latoya Walker is new to Invicta FC and has only fought one fight in the organization. I suspect she will get to challenge Cyborg in time.

Peggy Morgan should not be ranked that high. She lost to Latoya Walker (above) and several others.

The ranking at MMA Rising is much more accurate though it also shows how shallow the number of available fighters is for that weight class.

Cyborg's next fight is supposed to be against Walker at 145. Yes, Cyborg still not going down in weight and again fighting somebody with only four fights on the regional circuit and one win in Invicta, a decision over a 3-3 opponent. This is how weak 145 is. The real challenges are at 135.

Are any of you Cyborg nutthugging shit-posters going to ever provide any of these gifs of Cyborg's one-punch KO power, any videos or gifs of her grappling ability, or anything at all to support your points or are you just going to continue to get wrecked in this thread?

 

[fightfan84]

So, you're suggesting that Ronda has nothing to worry about, and she can easily take a catch weight or even move up to defeat the comparably unskilled Cyborg and add loads of credibility to her resume?

Even if Ronda wanted to fight cyborg at any weight above 135 the ufc wouldn't let it happen. How do you children not understand that very basic concept.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Even if Ronda wanted to fight cyborg at any weight above 135 the ufc wouldn't let it happen. How do you children not understand that very basic concept.

I guess it's a good thing that Cris says she can 100% make 135 then, right?


Here's what Cris says:

Justino appeared on Friday’s edition of*UFC Tonight*and claimed she can 100-percent make the drop to the bantamweight division.

“I have a professional nutritional guy and he helped me much easier to make 145. I can 100-percent make it,” said the 29-year-old.

Her nutritionist:

"If they want her to fight Dec. 5, it would be within the timeline," Lockhart told MMA Fighting of the chances that Justino could get down to 135 pounds for a fight with Rousey in time.
"It would be close, but she could definitely make 135 before Dec. 5."
Lockhart said that Justino has the mental and physical ability to quickly make the drop to bantamweight. "A lot of people don't have the athleticism or the conditioning or the mindset to do this, (but) she does," he said.
"I don't see it being a problem at all."
And Lockhart seemed to expect that Justino would be at full strength and normal featherweight fighting weight, even if she were to weigh in the day before to fight Rousey at 135 pounds. Normally, Justino is reported to fight at or near 170 pounds, the day after weighing in at 145 pounds.
"That's my goal," he said.
"My goal is to make her better, faster, more explosive at 135. ... She is going to fight exactly the way she does at 145 pounds."

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/cyborg-justino-s-nutritionist-says-she-can-make-135-pounds-by-dec-to-fight-ronda-rousey-081015



But the Ronda haters KNOW Cris can't make 135, and she would literally die if she tried.

 

[Bob Gray]

Did you seriously say Ronda has more KO power? Lol!

Seriously dude, what kind of Joe Rogan coolaid have you been drinking? Doing psilocybin mushrooms in Joe's house?

What are you gonna say next, Ronda has more KO power than Jon Dodson? She's bigger right... Lol!

That's two instances of Rousey KOing or queer streeting someone with one punch. How many gifs are there of Cyborg doing the same?

Hint: You will post none.


Note: If you wanted to just measure power by itself, I'd say Cyborg probably hits harder. But KO's and one shots aren't about power alone. Rousey has demonstrated a superior ability to land a fight ending single punch than Cyborg has, as evidenced by the multiple instances of people showing Rousey doing it, as opposed to the nothing being shown by people that say Cyborg is superior at it. And the nothing they will continue to show. While saying it's obvious. Somehow?

 

[CrashStitches]

^ exactly wat would happen 2 rousey thx 4 posting

So Cyborg would have to get someone to photoshop pics of Rousey to look like she did damage to her also? Thanks for confirming.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

That's two instances of Rousey KOing or queer streeting someone with one punch. How many gifs are there of Cyborg doing the same?

Hint: You will post none.


Note: If you wanted to just measure power by itself, I'd say Cyborg probably hits harder. But KO's and one shots aren't about power alone. Rousey has demonstrated a superior ability to land a fight ending single punch than Cyborg has, as evidenced by the multiple instances of people showing Rousey doing it, as opposed to the nothing being shown by people that say Cyborg is superior at it. And the nothing they will continue to show. While saying it's obvious. Somehow?

But Brasil Wand said he personally saw her ko men at ATT, bro. We should believe him with all the proof he supplied.

 

[BROKENSPROKET]

While you are at it, watch the Bethe fight again too.. Ronda was winning yeah, but its not like she was bashing Bethes face in the entire time, she landed a good left hook against the cage that rocked Bethe, and finished her off with a right

You should watch it again. After she had her against the fence, initially she missed alot strikes. She landed a left body shot and a combo rigth to the chin. This hurt Betche, who then tried to clinch and she got kneed for it. Then she was trying to get out of there and then I was the right to put her out. She was already out when the final left landed.

 

[Bob Gray]

But Brasil Wand said he personally saw her ko men at ATT, bro. We should believe him with all the proof he supplied.

I don't think I've ever seen someone avoid my posts as much as he has.

 

[CrashStitches]

People acting like Ronda scared to go against bigger, more highly-touted opponents.



Edith would fling Cyborg for ippon in under 10 seconds. Can we stop bringing Jorina Baars into this conversation?

 

[CrashStitches]

You should watch it again. After she had her against the fence, initially she missed alot strikes. She landed a left body shot and a combo rigth to the chin. This hurt Betche, who then tried to clinch and she got kneed for it. Then she was trying to get out of there and then I was the right to put her out. She was already out when the final left landed.

And Bethe thought her own body punching would work on Ronda because it worked on a shopworn and shot Baszler. #rektM8

 

[moonwolf]

lol
boss meet secretary

 

[Breakitdown]

Funny how you people focus in on Bethe, but completely forget people like Zingano, Tate, Davis, Kaufman... all better wins than anything Cyborg has done.

Don't use Bethe as an excuse to trash Ronda's competition, she still has a better record than all but 1 of Cyborgs opponents

Zingano... LOL.

"I would do the same thing if we fought again." Not the brightest tool in the shed and highlights the FACT that WMMA is not only getting the bottom feeders in terms of athletic ability but MENTAL CAPACITY as well. We are talking about individuals who would not be successful in any other endeavor. Period.

 

[Bob Gray]

Zingano... LOL.

"I would do the same thing if we fought again." Not the brightest tool in the shed and highlights the FACT that WMMA is not only getting the bottom feeders in terms of athletic ability but MENTAL CAPACITY as well. We are talking about individuals who would not be successful in any other endeavor. Period.

Uh.....the dude is right, though. She is a better win than pretty much anyone on Cyborgs resume. Without sifting through it I wouldn't be surprised if she was favored over every single opponent Cyborg has ever had.

But even aside from that, your post is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

I don't think I've ever seen someone avoid my posts as much as he has.

It's because he is a massive can.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Zingano... LOL.

"I would do the same thing if we fought again." Not the brightest tool in the shed and highlights the FACT that WMMA is not only getting the bottom feeders in terms of athletic ability but MENTAL CAPACITY as well. We are talking about individuals who would not be successful in any other endeavor. Period.

Zingano beat the girl who beat Cyborg's best win. Also, Cat does very well in competitive no-gi grappling. She's a brown, grapples at black, and has her fair share of wins.

If it weren't for Ronda, Cat would be an undefeated champion at 135 and look relatively dominant.

 

[WrestlinganJudo]

Zingano... LOL.

"I would do the same thing if we fought again." Not the brightest tool in the shed and highlights the FACT that WMMA is not only getting the bottom feeders in terms of athletic ability but MENTAL CAPACITY as well. We are talking about individuals who would not be successful in any other endeavor. Period.

Cat knows she has to hurt Ronda to win. Cat knows she can't beat Ronda being passive or defensive.

 

[Swiggity Swooty]

So, Cyborg's top five, according to you are
1. Marloes
2. Carano
3. Porto
4. Baszler
5. Yamanaka

So Cyborg's top win was losing 2 rounds to 1 to Tate when Tate tapped her out. Her #2 win is considered a "joke" opponent and was only hyped because she was hot. Wasn't Porto a champion at 128? Then we are to Baszler who is a journeyman and Yamanaka who never won a single fight outside of Japan and lost to Edianne Gomes who Ronda tapped out in 0:25.

You asked for her Top 5 fights, those are her top 5 fights. Once again you need to take into account the timing of those fights. At the times of those fights Cyborgs opponents were at no worse of a level than Rondas opponents now.

Using PbP to suit your claim is rough as I know people who were watching it live that had Coenen winning. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find some links. It's really neither here nor there, as no one would say Coenen isn't a good win.

Carano was also a solid win at the time. She wasn't there just because she was "hot", though it may have helped. To say that was the only reason is asinine and shows you cannot be in a meaningful discussion.

If you choose to disregard Baszler, Porto, and Yamanaka based on YOUR own criteria then that is on you. You are clearly pushing an agenda that you have no actual intention of discussing intelligently.

 

[Swiggity Swooty]

Meisha is far better than anyone on Borg's list. Bethe is about the average level of opponent Cyborg faces; a cylindrical sealed metal container full of salty tomatoes, and in way over her head.

Coenen during her first fight with Cyborg is the same level as Miesha. Zuffa goggles are strong here. Now? Meisha, defintely. But back in 2010. Come on.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

You asked for her Top 5 fights, those are her top 5 fights. Once again you need to take into account the timing of those fights. At the times of those fights Cyborgs opponents were at no worse of a level than Rondas opponents now.

Using PbP to suit your claim is rough as I know people who were watching it live that had Coenen winning. I'm sure if you looked hard enough you could find some links. It's really neither here nor there, as no one would say Coenen isn't a good win.

Carano was also a solid win at the time. She wasn't there just because she was "hot", though it may have helped. To say that was the only reason is asinine and shows you cannot be in a meaningful discussion.

If you choose to disregard Baszler, Porto, and Yamanaka based on YOUR own criteria then that is on you. You are clearly pushing an agenda that you have no actual intention of discussing intelligently.

Disregard Yamanaka because Cris pissed hot. Porto was 3-2. Cris has fought terrible, undersized fighters her whole career.

Van Duin (5-1, fighting for just two years)
Tweet (6-4, 38 years old. Lost to Ronda, probably Ronda's worst win)
Muxlaw (6-3, no notable wins, part time fighter whose background is as a fitness instructor)
Yamanaka (NC-- drug test failure)
Akano (128/132lb fighter)
Takahashi (17-12, has one win over a non-Japanese fighter,)
Finney (8-8 punching bag)
Vitorio, Santiago, Schroeder - extremely low level. Cris was still new though.
Porto- Good win, but Porto was 3-2 at the time and is now a 125er.


Cris's resume is garbage. Tate, Kaufman, Zingano, Davis, McManb, Carmouche, Budd, Correia are all FAR better wins than those.