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Ronda Rousey v Cris Cyborg - Size Comparison

McBlaze said:
lol scurred lil rousey fan... dont blame ya, it would be a quick one sided fight
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I agree. Very one-sided. Considering Cyborg's heavy, sloppy footwork and lack of one-shot power, she would be flung through the air in short order, and amputated with little trouble. At any weight. Borg can juice, but she can't win. She knows that if she takes this fight, she gets annihilated, and nobody will even care to bring her back to Invicta. As long as she keeps talking about Ronda and pretending she's gonna cut weight, she'll remain fringe relevant. Without Ronda, Cyborg fades into the obscurity her freakshow act deserves. Without Cyborg, Ronda remains the biggest thing in the sport, male or female.
 
Darwinambrosius said:
i don't care. Rousey can keep claiming to be the best fighter alive while blatantly ducking challengers. Real fans know what's up.
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Who are these "real fans" you speak of? Most "real fans" I know have seen Ronda lay forceful abortions upon the heads of the entire division to the point they had to feed her a can (Correia) to kill a couple months, and move up a contender (Holm) to keep up with her wrath of murder. She's owning her fucking division, you fucking noob. Using this dumbass logic, fucking RDA is SO ducking Ben Askpergers. See how fucking stupid you look, saying a major league champion is ducking a minor leaguer in a higher division?
 
Swiggity Swooty said:
Why did Rousey say she would fight Carano at 140-145 but she won't fight Cyborg at the same?

Cyborgs 5 best wins are probably Coenen, Carano, Coenen II, Porto, and Baszler. If you don't want to count Coenen twice, which you should, you could count Tate twice for Ronda, then you would take Coenen II out and slide Porto and Baszler up one and add Yamanaka to 5. At the times of these fights the fighters were no worse at all than Rondas current opponents.

One thing I don't like in this thread is that people are really going hard with the Zuffa goggles. It doesn't let an honest discussion arise.
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So, Cyborg's top five, according to you are
1. Marloes
2. Carano
3. Porto
4. Baszler
5. Yamanaka

So Cyborg's top win was losing 2 rounds to 1 to Tate when Tate tapped her out. Her #2 win is considered a "joke" opponent and was only hyped because she was hot. Wasn't Porto a champion at 128? Then we are to Baszler who is a journeyman and Yamanaka who never won a single fight outside of Japan and lost to Edianne Gomes who Ronda tapped out in 0:25.
 
clayj said:
So, Cyborg's top five, according to you are
1. Marloes
2. Carano
3. Porto
4. Baszler
5. Yamanaka

So Cyborg's top win was losing 2 rounds to 1 to Tate when Tate tapped her out. Her #2 win is considered a "joke" opponent and was only hyped because she was hot. Wasn't Porto a champion at 128? Then we are to Baszler who is a journeyman and Yamanaka who never won a single fight outside of Japan and lost to Edianne Gomes who Ronda tapped out in 0:25.
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I WILL CUT YOU said:
Are we done here?
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[YT]Ha42s61ks20[/YT]

starts at 5:47

Reporter" You think its not so much the wieght but more the money?


Ronda: they are willing to make 135 but they are asking for exuberante amount of money....and they are trying to over negotiate there contract... if you try that with Dana too much he is going to get pissed off and say screw you.. and we are going to do it without you..and THAT WHAT PRETTY MUCH HAS BEEN GOING ON.. to my knowledge..



are we done here?

or are you calling both Cyborg and Ronda a liars?>

BTW I ll let you have the last word since its obvious you are not seeing things clearly

good night
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
Dana:





http://sports.yahoo.com/news/dana-white-revised-now-believes-ronda-rousey-vs-062136135--mma.html


Here's what Cris says:




Her nutritionist:


http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/cyborg-justino-s-nutritionist-says-she-can-make-135-pounds-by-dec-to-fight-ronda-rousey-081015






Are we done here?
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Except Cyborg's nutritionist isn't correct that her first fight at 135 will be Ronda. Like Daya said

"She has to make the weight, she has to fight, and she has to be healthy,
 
Marc A said:
[YT]Ha42s61ks20[/YT]

starts at 5:47

Reporter" You think its not so much the wieght but more the money?


Ronda: they are willing to make 135 but they are asking for exuberante amount of money....and they are trying to over negotiate there contract... if you try that with Dana too much he is going to get pissed off and say screw you.. and we are going to do it without you..and THAT WHAT PRETTY MUCH HAS BEEN GOING ON.. to my knowledge..



are we done here?

or are you calling both Cyborg and Ronda a liars?>

BTW I ll let you have the last word since its obvious you are not seeing things clearly

good night
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Your video is from February 2015, my quotes are from August 2015.



I'd say goodnight but we both know the nightmares of your besmirchment in this thread will keep you awake tonight.
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
Akano fought at 128 and 132 right after fighting Cris. She was hardly a teenager. You don't deal with facts well, bro.


Name 5 credible opponents Cris has fought. I'll wait.
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What does it prove that she fought at some other weight class right afterward? Rumble fought at multiple weight classes and also did terrible at the lightest weight class. He beat Andrei Arlovski at HW and lost to Josh Koscheck WW. So does this down grade Arlovski just because Rumble made bad choices on his weight classes? Why don't you provide something credible that proves anything about a fighters choice of weight class BRO. lol.

She has fought the best that is available in the world for that weight class. You can beat it up if you want, but nobody seems to be in a hurry to move up from 135 pounds to join it.

2 fights - Marloes "Rumina" Coenen - both TKO's
1 - Faith Van Duin - TKO
1 - Hiroko Yamanaka (overturned for PED's) - TKO
1 - Fiona Muxlow - TKO
1 - Gina Carano - TKO

This historical ranking is inclusive of fighters including some who have not fought lately (such as Gina Carano)
http://www.tapology.com/rankings/1265-top-women-featherweight-fighters

This is current rankings for "active" fighters who have fought recently which is a combination of Invicta FC and Bellator.
http://www.mmarising.com/rankings/unified-womens-mixed-martial-arts-rankings/
 
SherdogFan23 said:
What does it prove that she fought at some other weight class right afterward? Rumble fought at multiple weight classes and also did terrible at the lightest weight class. He beat Andrei Arlovski at HW and lost to Josh Koscheck WW. So does this down grade Arlovski just because Rumble made bad choices on his weight classes? Why don't you provide something credible that proves anything about a fighters choice of weight class BRO. lol.

She has fought the best that is available in the world for that weight class. You can beat it up if you want, but nobody seems to be in a hurry to move up from 135 pounds to join it.

2 fights - Marloes "Rumina" Coenen - both TKO's
1 - Faith Van Duin - TKO
1 - Hiroko Yamanaka (overturned for PED's) - TKO
1 - Fiona Muxlow - TKO
1 - Gina Carano - TKO

This historical ranking is inclusive of fighters including some who have not fought lately (such as Gina Carano)
http://www.tapology.com/rankings/1265-top-women-featherweight-fighters

This is current rankings for "active" fighters who have fought recently which is a combination of Invicta FC and Bellator.
http://www.mmarising.com/rankings/unified-womens-mixed-martial-arts-rankings/
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Strawman

Strawman

Strawman



Why would girls who could make 125 put on weight to fight lesser competition in a lesser org for less money and less exposure?


The better question us, why doesn't Cris lose a little weight like she said she 100% could do, her nutritionist said 100% she could?

She would make much more money (possibly millions) than the $50k she makes in Invicta. She would have more exposure, her Invicta ppv sold 5,000 where Ronda is the #1 draw in all of mma. She would get a chance to fight the girl she is obsessed with, who she is so jealous and butthurt over.
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
Strawman

Strawman

Strawman



Why would girls who could make 125 put on weight to fight lesser competition in a lesser org for less money and less exposure?


The better question us, why doesn't Cris lose a little weight like she said she 100% could do, her nutritionist said 100% she could?

She would make much more money (possibly millions) than the $50k she makes in Invicta. She would have more exposure, her Invicta ppv sold 5,000 where Ronda is the #1 draw in all of mma. She would get a chance to fight the girl she is obsessed with, who she is so jealous and butthurt over.
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^ This. She is crazy not to do it, because like it or not MMA is a business and a fighter should maximize their earning potential because the clock is ticking. The incentive is for her to come to Ronda, because that is where the money is at. We may find it tarnishes some supposed legacy as fans, but it's not our career, so we don't get to make the decisions for them.
 
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clayj said:
Paes has fought at 125 and at 135 where she lost to Bethe Correa .
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As previously stated, you are talking about a fight that occurred when Cyborg was 20 years old. We could pick out all kinds of fighters and go back to their career start and find a loss or decision win. Jose Aldo also has a loss if we go back to 2005. And it is to a fighter who never won a belt and lost a lot of fights to nobody's so does this mean that Aldo can't become GOAT if he somehow beats McGregor? Absolutely not. Aldo became a lot better fighter through experience and training.
 
craxie said:
These rankings are little bit more objective as they're formulaic
http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/womens-featheweight/

If you notice the 15th ranked featherweight is 1-0

That's pathetic

on the bantamweight side:
http://www.fightmatrix.com/mma-ranks/womens-bantamweight/

the 15th ranked fighter is 9-0 Pannie Kianzad

Also notice that of the 15 ranked featherweights, Cyborg has not fought #3 (Julia Budd), #4 (Arlene Blencowe), #5 (Latoya Walker), or #6 (Peggy Morgan)
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Good post.

Cyborg fans (let's be honest here, Cris has very few fans you're actually just Ronda haters) are getting #rekt
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
Strawman

Strawman

Strawman



Why would girls who could make 125 put on weight to fight lesser competition in a lesser org for less money and less exposure?


The better question us, why doesn't Cris lose a little weight like she said she 100% could do, her nutritionist said 100% she could?

She would make much more money (possibly millions) than the $50k she makes in Invicta. She would have more exposure, her Invicta ppv sold 5,000 where Ronda is the #1 draw in all of mma. She would get a chance to fight the girl she is obsessed with, who she is so jealous and butthurt over.
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Why do new fighters start out in other organizations before they get to the UFC? Because they need a record that makes an argument for a contract. And what better way to make yourself a name than beating Cyborg before downsizing to enter the UFC? If she is that weak, somebody would have beat her by now but they haven't. We can make claims of steroids or whatever, but either way she is the best in the world at 145 pounds and she has beat the best in the world at that weight class.

I am not going to argue with you on the weight issue because I am on your side on that issue. As previously stated I am NOT a fan of Cyborg. My argument is on the issue of her ability to decimate her competition at 145 pounds. So far the only excuses people can use to attack it is fights around 10 years ago when she was green.
 
SherdogFan23 said:
As previously stated, you are talking about a fight that occurred when Cyborg was 20 years old. We could pick out all kinds of fighters and go back to their career start and find a loss or decision win. Jose Aldo also has a loss if we go back to 2005. And it is to a fighter who never won a belt and lost a lot of fights to nobody's so does this mean that Aldo can't become GOAT if he somehow beats McGregor? Absolutely not. Aldo became a lot better fighter through experience and training.
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It wasn't that Cyborg lost to Paes, it is that Cyborg has spent her whole career fighting 125 and 135 pounders that is the point.
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
"Cryborg via death"



Lol you should check her resume again. 36 year old, 15-12 Yoko Takahashi went to a decision with Cris.



The myth that Cryborg is a killer, ko artist is false. Look at her resume its terrible. Ronda's wins are faster, better, more brutal and against much MUCH better competition.
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some of us have actually seen her fight instead of just looking at her resume

She is a wrecking machine and is definitely way bigger than Ronda, if not close to twice her size, and Ronda is a big big BW
 
I WILL CUT YOU said:
Good post.

Cyborg fans (let's be honest here, Cris has very few fans you're actually just Ronda haters) are getting #rekt
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I am not a Ronda hater. In fact you can check the other 100 threads that are very similar to this one and you will find that I am usually arguing for Ronda. But facts are facts, and there is also no sense in the Cyborg haters making lies to make a point in the other direction when it is not needed.
 
Timurd123 said:
some of us have actually seen her fight instead of just looking at her resume

She is a wrecking machine and is definitely way bigger than Ronda, if not close to twice her size, and Ronda is a big big BW
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I've replied to this comment from several other posters. Reread the thread dummy and stop replying to a first page post when the thread is on page 13
 
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