RIZIN Is the Future ... The UFC's Days Are Numbered

[Neck&Neck]

#RizinToTheTop

 

[fortheo]

Rizin is awesome, minus their long ass breaks mid event. UFC could learn a thing or two from them in regards to the production and the theatrics of it all. But no, rizin is never going to take over as the premier MMA organizaton.

 

[IndyCovaHart]

Even with weebage at an all time high, it’s not happening, bro.

 

[fifinex]

But in any case, I don't think RIZIN cares about overtaking the UFC. RIZIN seems to only care about their domestic market : an actual functioning, high trust society which is a rarity in the modern world.

High functioning society?? Didn't someone murder the former prime minister of Japan recently?

 

[colorles]

Because they've always had issues keeping afloat whenever they tried to court the international market. Rizin was in a dire situation before they decided to just focus on their local market, no reason for them to go back to what wasn't working.

Like I said in the very next post :

But in any case, I don't think RIZIN cares about overtaking the UFC. RIZIN seems to only care about their domestic market : an actual functioning, high trust society which is a rarity in the modern world.

Also, this :

I think Rizin and the UFC can co exist. I don't see any reason for fans to expect them to compete.

 

[CC27]

I think Rizin and the UFC can co exist. I don't see any reason for fans to expect them to compete.

They dont compete. KSW, Rizin, Oktagon etc orgs like that stay in their lane and thrive in their country. They dont have any aspirations of taking over mma because they cant. They do their thing and do it well and its as simple as that.

 

[theincognito]

What's so special about this that it convinced you that Rizin is going to overtake a $12b company? Just looks like a basic bitch panned out arena shot to me.

 

[spinitch]

Rizn puts on a good show but less frequently . UFC has most of the top fighters and those fighters can make more at UFC for now. Rizn a good alternative for some fighters especially Japanese and Korean.

 

[Trabaho]

yet all other orgs talk about the UFC non stop

 

[NoSmilez]

I think they are done as an international show. They cater to a domestic market. They can still make a good show but I will admit JMMA is a bit behind the rest of the world now.

 

[Bobby Boulders]

RIZIN just hired Michael Craven, a Westerner who was previously GM for New Japan Pro Wrestling. Under his watch, NJPW started subsets of the main company on multiple continents, and he brokered a US TV deal. They also ran a co-promotion one year with Ring of Honor during Wrestlmania weekend in Madison Square Garden. He brought in respected international talent, and helped NJ grow substantially in the international market. He was hired specifically to do the same for RIZIN, so the talk of them not caring about the international market is a bit dated. This became apparent a while ago, when they held an event in Azerbaijan. They're also holding an event in South Korea at the end of May.

They don't really have to compete with the UFC. It isn't the same product. They can grow on their own, and become a top alternative to the UFC, with their high production values, use of the ring rather than a cage (mostly), and infinitely better rule set (PRIDE rules + elbows, practically NHB). Perfect alternative for a guy like me, who is jaded and barely cares about the UFC anymore.

They're potentially getting indirect help from a UFC investor in The Rock, who does generally big numbers at the box office, and is starring in the Mark Kerr movie, directed by an Oscar caliber director in Benny Safdie (Uncut Gems) and co-starring Oscar nominated actress and Golden Globe winner Emily Blunt. Very possible that there is a reasonable uptick in interest in JMMA once that film is released, as a large portion of the film is about Kerr's time in PRIDE. They also announced that Ryan Bader has signed to fight the winner of their HWGP on NYE, not long after that film is released, Bader playing Mark Coleman in the film.

RIZIN will probably never become the top org, they don't really have to be. The event last night likely did over 50k in the crowd, and would have probably done bigger numbers if the grudge match that was supposed to headline wasn't canceled due to an injury. They hit over 48k at Super RIZIN 3, last year. They've got Japan on lock, now is the time to branch out. Plenty of things are playing in their favor.

 

[Substance Abuse]

mods on sherdog are paid by dana white

Ban incoming.

 

[Mammothman]

Ok Mark Hunt, you already told us the UFC would be out of business in august last year.

 

[HHJ]

Why not? It's the era of the internet people can watch things from all over the world. And Japan has an actual functioning society; maybe not like it was at it's peak but leagues beyond the western world.

So the answer is def watching cards that start at 2 am?

 

[Beamzy]

Is this image from Rizin 50? says 9,000 in attendance...

 

[Killer Kadoogan]

what people dont realize is that rizin has grown their own stable of legitimate stars in japan, that are very very popular there, and get huge numbers. rizin is working out for japan 100%. the foray into international waters is a slow plan. with social media, and continued great battles, fights, aesthetics and the shareability of well produced videos/moments, rizin will continue to grow steadily IMO. last night's event was awesome. a homage to MMA, a respectful salute to the past and present of MMA. hell, even poatan showed up, looking slightly uncomfortable with the size of the stadium. the fights mostly delivered. the show is something else. we are slowly entering another age of multiple MMA organizations that have built up followings and are now all competing again. ONE, UFC, KSW, RIZIN, PFLator, all legitimate orgs.

 

[Substance Abuse]

#RizinToTheTop

We found Michael Chandler's burner.

 

[Thesnake101]

So the answer is def watching cards that start at 2 am?

You don't get it, better society (don't look at the forests or birth rate) = more popularity.

There's an MMA juggernaut in Norway just about ready to explode onto the scene.

 

[vinnie245]

Because they've always had issues keeping afloat whenever they tried to court the international market. Rizin was in a dire situation before they decided to just focus on their local market, no reason for them to go back to what wasn't working.

Its basically the best way to stay alive in the MMA landscape, look at all the past and even current promotions that always try to go international and expand too fast, it never works well.
Best to just stay in their lane and they will do alright.

 

[colorles]

You don't get it, better society (don't look at the forests or birth rate) = more popularity.

There's an MMA juggernaut in Norway just about ready to explode onto the scene.

They have much more of a sense of nationalism than anything in the west right now; are almost an entirely Japanese population as they should be; and they actually give a damn about their own people and fighters. So yeah: being a better society matters when it comes to putting on a better domestic mma promotion. They don't need anything other than their own 100 plus million population and homeland.