Crime Riot+Looting in Ferguson, MO

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JadeOwl said:
He's saying that the hate of some specific people is racially motivated. Not all of it.
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he said "most"

so most people who hate Jones is racially motivated, of course not.

so should i say, Weidman, GSP and Rory hate is racially motivated ? of course not.
 
ncordless said:
The video WoW posted is of several men armed with rifles on the rooftop with their store completely barricaded by heavy shit. I would agree if you have all that going for you, your chances of success are better than one shopowner with a handgun or shotgun facing down a mob in tight quarters.
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Again, you are overestimating the toughness of a mob. Everybody is a hard ass until they hear gun shots. Most people are pussies when it comes to gun fire, even if the gunman is severely outnumbered. Nobody wants to risk being the one guy that gets shot while the rest of the mob swarm him, so they all run.
 
Here's a video of some of the shit thats happened.

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

This is serious shit. It may have started as the police responding appropriately to rioters but it has advanced to WAY more than that.

I've been watching for 20 minutes. Cliffs on what I saw

- A group of 40-50 individuals, PEACEFULLY, protesting. No one being violent, they aren't even being particularly loud.
- Some members of the media covering them, commenting that the police have cut them off from their news vans and won't allow them to return to them
- Police issue an ultimatum. Members of the community ,ust disperse and members of the media STOP RECORDING.
- Many protesters sit down and raise their hands up to show they aren't a threat.
- Police respond by firing rubber bullets, firing tear gas, and throwing flashbang grenades at the crowd.

Make your own judgment.
 
I'm sorry but you have to be beyond retarded to revolt against an unjust action by law enforcement with looting. If they cared even a little about having their voice actually heard they would go about it like civilized human beings. They just want an excuse to steal like they need one.
 
Terry Noonan said:
I don't get it, didn't the kid attack the cop and try to take his gun?

Typical thug mentality, we do what we want and should have no consequences for our actions.
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I assume you have already given your deposition in the investigation, correct?
 
Shot said:
Here's a video of some of the shit thats happened.

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

This is serious shit. It may have started as the police responding appropriately to rioters but it has advanced to WAY more than that.

I've been watching for 20 minutes. Cliffs on what I saw

- A group of 40-50 individuals, PEACEFULLY, protesting. No one being violent, they aren't even being particularly loud.
- Some members of the media covering them, commenting that the police have cut them off from their news vans and won't allow them to return to them
- Police issue an ultimatum. Members of the community ,ust disperse and members of the media STOP RECORDING.
- Many protesters sit down and raise their hands up to show they aren't a threat.
- Police respond by firing rubber bullets, firing tear gas, and throwing flashbang grenades at the crowd.

Make your own judgment.
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there are also reports that there have been gun shots and molotov cocktails thrown at the cops.
 
Wow at the vid. Crazy cops are firing that shit indiscriminately into people's yards. I guess their hope is maybe a looter lives there?
 
Shot said:
Here's a video of some of the shit thats happened.

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

This is serious shit. It may have started as the police responding appropriately to rioters but it has advanced to WAY more than that.

I've been watching for 20 minutes. Cliffs on what I saw

- A group of 40-50 individuals, PEACEFULLY, protesting. No one being violent, they aren't even being particularly loud.
- Some members of the media covering them, commenting that the police have cut them off from their news vans and won't allow them to return to them
- Police issue an ultimatum. Members of the community ,ust disperse and members of the media STOP RECORDING.
- Many protesters sit down and raise their hands up to show they aren't a threat.
- Police respond by firing rubber bullets, firing tear gas, and throwing flashbang grenades at the crowd.

Make your own judgment.
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I think in these situations, police need to show a little more restraint and perhaps use a bit of the old adage, discretion is the better part of valor, meaning that causing people that are loudly protesting to disperse, may cause more harm and anger than allowing them to stay and protest.

When people are rioting and looting, by all means gas and rubber ball their ass back to the stone age. People are angry over the shooting of an unarmed teenager. Sure, it's become a circus, but I don't think the tear gas tactics are going to disperse the people protesting and will only attract more media. I think if the police either just stood their ground, or stood by, ready if the protests got violent again, the crowd and media would get bored and move on.

I absolutely disagree with any order to turn off cameras. You can barely hear it, so not sure where that came from, but that shit is getting old, and it embarrasses me that some departments still push that shit.

I still stand by what I said earlier, about this level of lunacy destroying any chance for a legit investigation. They may just decide that they have to charge the cop, regardless of evidence just to stave off more looting, and that is not justice.

What I would propose, is that all police shootings have to be reported to the FBI, and the FBI or the justice department needs to investigate AND follow up with the results. So even if we have a number, say the popular figure being thrown around by the mouth breathers on disinfo wars-5000, we have no idea how many of those were ruled good shoots and how many were bad shoots. I want to know that stuff, and I think everyone else does as well. Right now, police departments have to report the number of shootings they have, but there is no place to differentiate if it is police shooting or not. And no follow up. It is also the same with legit self defense cases when they arise.

So, even though I can tell you how many shootings there have been in my city in the last 12 years, and how many legit self defense cases and police shootings-the FBI does not require or ever list the results. I can tell you in the last 12 years there have been two justifiable homicides in my area. One was a cop shooting a man who was firing a gun at people and the other was a store owner shooting an armed robber who had fired a shot in the air for emphasis. Aside from that, we get dozens of shootings by gangbangers a year and the occasional murder.
 
"People could be seen carrying hubcaps out of an auto supply store"

Shit how much are hubcaps in America??

Last time I recall buying some they were fucking big and bulky and cost about $15 for 4.

Has to be one of the worst items in the world to steal. Up there with beanbag beans.
 
Shot said:
Here's a video of some of the shit thats happened.

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

This is serious shit. It may have started as the police responding appropriately to rioters but it has advanced to WAY more than that.

I've been watching for 20 minutes. Cliffs on what I saw

- A group of 40-50 individuals, PEACEFULLY, protesting. No one being violent, they aren't even being particularly loud.
- Some members of the media covering them, commenting that the police have cut them off from their news vans and won't allow them to return to them
- Police issue an ultimatum. Members of the community ,ust disperse and members of the media STOP RECORDING.
- Many protesters sit down and raise their hands up to show they aren't a threat.
- Police respond by firing rubber bullets, firing tear gas, and throwing flashbang grenades at the crowd.

Make your own judgment.
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get that shit out of here,this is the "hate on black people" thread,not the "complain about police" thread.

Remember its only govt overreach and police brutality if white people are hurt
 
It's a no fly zone right now. Media members are getting arrested, pepper sprayed. One media member was sat in a fucking mcdonalds and had tear gas chucked at her.

They're covering something up, and we know exactly what it is.

Dontevenguess93 said:
I'm sorry but you have to be beyond retarded to revolt against an unjust action by law enforcement with looting. If they cared even a little about having their voice actually heard they would go about it like civilized human beings. They just want an excuse to steal like they need one.
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Peaceful protestors had tear gas thrown at them and rubber bullets fired.

“I’ve told the kids in the ghettos that violence won’t solve their problems, but then they ask me, and rightly so; “Why does the government use massive doses of violence to bring about the change it wants in the world?” After this I knew that I could no longer speak against the violence in the ghettos without also speaking against the violence of my government.”- MLK
 
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HIMBOB said:
"People could be seen carrying hubcaps out of an auto supply store"

Shit how much are hubcaps in America??

Last time I recall buying some they were fucking big and bulky and cost about $15 for 4.

Has to be one of the worst items in the world to steal. Up there with beanbag beans.
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It may have been reported as hubcaps but I guarantee they were probably wheels/rims.

We folks like dem rims, even on a '89 grand marquis or a '93 crown victoria.
 
Oh the horror, the injustice, some guy I didn't know punched a cop and tried to take his gun has died.

As Obama says, don't do stupid things.
 
Terry Noonan said:
Oh the horror, the injustice, some guy I didn't know punched a cop and tried to take his gun has died.

As Obama says, don't do stupid things.
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Stupid things, such as Al Jazeera trying to report on it and having tear gas thrown at them deliberately.

If you're that into "not doing stupid things" please stop posting.
 
Cyantist said:
Stupid things, such as Al Jazeera trying to report on it and having tear gas thrown at them deliberately.

If you're that into "not doing stupid things" please stop posting.
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I'm talking about the shooting, not the reporters.
 
Terry Noonan said:
I'm talking about the shooting, not the reporters.
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Well then stop. This entire thing has escalated to be far bigger and the motivation for the shooting is in doubt since the "he attacked me, tried to take my gun" is the officers words and eye witnesses are saying it is not anywhere close to being cut and dry.

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Here's what happened to Al Jazeera in Ferguson. They had tear gas thrown at them and then their equipment was stolen.
https://twitter.com/FergusonUnity/status/499880207310811136
 
HIMBOB said:
"People could be seen carrying hubcaps out of an auto supply store"

Shit how much are hubcaps in America??

Last time I recall buying some they were fucking big and bulky and cost about $15 for 4.

Has to be one of the worst items in the world to steal. Up there with beanbag beans.
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It's not unusual to see american welfare recipients driving very expensive vehicles that require very expensive hubcaps.
 
Cyantist said:
Well then stop. This entire thing has escalated to be far bigger and the motivation for the shooting is in doubt since the "he attacked me, tried to take my gun" is the officers words and eye witnesses are saying it is not anywhere close to being cut and dry.

Bu_uJoEIEAEkNgJ.jpg

Here's what happened to Al Jazeera in Ferguson. They had tear gas thrown at them and then their equipment was stolen.
https://twitter.com/FergusonUnity/status/499880207310811136
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So the "incident" that started the lawlessness isn't relevant to you? Got it. Totally makes sense.

Thanks for playing.
 
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