International Riot in Sweden.

No, it's not just about intent, it's because the religion of insecurity can't accept criticism readily as lack of self control and tolerance isn't really a built in feature of Islam.

- Apostasy isn't tolerated, to put it lightly.
- Don't draw a picture of old Mo because it might lead to idolatry.
- Cover up your women because we can't expect peckerwoods to control themselves.
- A :eek::eek::eek::eek:, genocidal warlord is the most perfect man to ever live.

These ideas aren't exactly foreign in their holy books and have been allowed to fester. Do you think Christianity would have been different 500 years ago? No, and it took quite a bit of work and time to gain the sort of tolerance common to most of Christianity. It didn't come about by the bigotry of low expectations.

So if we cow to their sensitivities do you think the authoritarian streak is just going to magically disappear? The fact that burning a book will lead to them burning our cities should be treated as extortion and be trained out of their more more reactionary members. The rest, like lemmings will go along with whatever the vocal minority tells them to do. Just like with other every hive minded group of people.

A Bukhari hadith talks of Uthman burning Qurans. His intent was not to tell muslims to fuck off, like the Danish guy. Sunni muslims like Uthman. Thus, the intent behind the burning does matter.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/66/9

Ibn Battal said: “The order of Saidina Uthman to burn all mushaf when the al-Quran is put together in writing proves the permissibility of burning books which contain the names of Allah SWT (Asma’ullah). Hence, as an honour towards it and protecting it from being stepped on or thrown to other places.” See Syarah Sahih al-Bukhari 10/226
 
A Bukhari hadith talks of Uthman burning Qurans. His intent was not to tell muslims to fuck off, like the Danish guy. Sunni muslims like Uthman. Thus, the intent behind the burning does matter.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/66/9

Ibn Battal said: “The order of Saidina Uthman to burn all mushaf when the al-Quran is put together in writing proves the permissibility of burning books which contain the names of Allah SWT (Asma’ullah). Hence, as an honour towards it and protecting it from being stepped on or thrown to other places.” See Syarah Sahih al-Bukhari 10/226
That's nice dear.
 
Essentially the more powerful States (France, Germany and Italy) wanted to have that buffer. So they would all establish favorable trade with Switzerland (the French with the French Swiss, the Germans with the German Swiss, the Italians with the Italian Swiss) and then Switzerland also had the deal with the Catholic Church (Swiss Guards, etc). So they benefited from all these political and business connections and carved out a niche in banking, clocks and chocolate. Even then Switzerland is mostly German (62% German, 22% French, 8% Italian, .5% Romansh).

But since Switzerland basically never really had a real army, they could have been taken over at any time but the powerful countries wanted to keep that buffer.

Look at North Korea, if China wasn't supporting them militarily and economically they would collapse or be taken over overnight. But China wants to keep that buffer there.
Switzerland has very good national defenses and a strong military relative to their size. Any of the large western powers could have taken them over most likely but at a retarded cost.
 
Jesus. Pretty sure no other religion's people would respond this way, unless they were the confirmed fringe fanatics. I.E. abortion clinic types... usually they just stand outside harassing people with words.Does the same apply to the muslims here? I feel like I know the answer, but just asking...

Biggest problem with islam is that it hasnt evovled at all to fit modern times. Sweden will be another France at this rate...scary stuff.
 
@ElKarlo

Here's a book on the topic that I've been meaning to pick up. The synopsis basically echoes some of my points though(or rather I echo his points but you get the idea)

Bad Religion: How We Became a Nation of Heretics
I'd. I've found most non fiction post 2010 or so start with a conclusion and then write things to meet that conclusion. Many just are writing for their audiences and don't care about facts and all that. Been really disappointed with a lot of what I've read lately.
That said, being in power and politics will corrupt and pervert.
The overly evangelicals can get strange. By purity of scripture and all that, which leads to sometimes radically odd thinking. Getting your pastor rich shouldn't be a sign of your righteousness.


For eastern orthodox think they've admit removed themselves romantic the mainstream kinda like some of the Mennonite groups. This semi isolation let's them not get infected by secular nonsense as easily. And so much exposure to being conquered has given them a stubborness and willingness to say no and not care
 
Switzerland has very good national defenses and a strong military relative to their size. Any of the large western powers could have taken them over most likely but at a retarded cost.
In an assault yes, in a siege, no. As Switzerland, especially the redoubt aren't self sufficient in food production
 
Sure but do liberals actually believe that? How often do we see liberals on this forum support the idea of installing secular dictators in Muslims countries so they can, in a top down fashion, impose secular liberalism on Muslim societies? How Muslims can't have democracy because they vote in Islamists and so on? Seems like "When in Rome" only applies to Rome but the land of the Saracens is to have its own Roman garrison imposing Roman culture.
A lot of liberals are still infected with Neocon foreign policies. Hillary and Obama’s administration was proof of that
 
A lot of liberals are still infected with Neocon foreign policies. Hillary and Obama’s administration was proof of that
When I say liberals in that context I mean Big L liberals which includes the center right and center left in America.
I'd. I've found most non fiction post 2010 or so start with a conclusion and then write things to meet that conclusion. Many just are writing for their audiences and don't care about facts and all that. Been really disappointed with a lot of what I've read lately.
That said, being in power and politics will corrupt and pervert.
The overly evangelicals can get strange. By purity of scripture and all that, which leads to sometimes radically odd thinking. Getting your pastor rich shouldn't be a sign of your righteousness.


For eastern orthodox think they've admit removed themselves romantic the mainstream kinda like some of the Mennonite groups. This semi isolation let's them not get infected by secular nonsense as easily. And so much exposure to being conquered has given them a stubborness and willingness to say no and not care
Sure, they write to make an argument they think is worth making. Its not a science book, its meant to make an argument from the author's POV. But I think that POV has merit.
 
When I say liberals in that context I mean Big L liberals which includes the center right and center left in America.

Sure, they write to make an argument they think is worth making. Its not a science book, its meant to make an argument from the author's POV. But I think that POV has merit.
Agree on the first.

On the second z I don't mind other POV. I grew up reading tbe Washington post.
I dislike it when I read or hear a lecture and within a paragraph, I already can see your ideology. I don't like how blatant it's become. A lot of polyscience has become wanks. And that's not good for discourse
 
Agree on the first.

On the second z I don't mind other POV. I grew up reading tbe Washington post.
I dislike it when I read or hear a lecture and within a paragraph, I already can see your ideology. I don't like how blatant it's become. A lot of polyscience has become wanks. And that's not good for discourse
Not sure I agree, none of us are these objective robots that merely spit facts. We always have an argument or framework that guides our thinking. I think its better to be open about it when we add our takes to the conversation so that the audience knows and can amalgamate a series of voices and arguments to try and get at the truth they're seeking. We each add our piece to the puzzle and its up to the audience to take those pieces and make a whole. That's how I see it at least.
 
It's only a book it doesn't harm anyone. If the corans burned where private property, owners can dispose of them how they see fit.

Is there any group in the world more fragile than muslims?
black Americans would be close. They make everything about themselves and their first world problems. Glad I don't live there.
 
Jews do not have it easy in Sweden, and I do not need to mention the reason for that as you probably all know. But something that started with an illegal demonstration inside Malmö by the extreme right from Denmark where the Koran was used as a football and the fact that Muslims became angry, Jews still came into the picture.

Jews in Malmö have been part of the elite that built up the city. They have lived here since the turn of the century and have been model citizens as they have been integrated into Swedish society. The few Jews who remain in Malmö will also move. Synagogues and Jewish schools are exposed to vandalism. Speaking of schools. A Jewish school follows the Swedish curriculum and has part-time education that is about their roots. These schools have become popular in the last 2 decades as it has not been sustainable for Jewish students to go to normal municipal schools as they are exposed to hate crimes from Arabs and other Muslims.

The fact that the Jews have felt exposed to Muslims for 30 years in Sweden has unfortunately not been taken seriously by our country. Because when they describe their concerns, it is not alarming enough as they do it in a Swedish way. A dialogue that can not be perceived as pointing someone out, keeping a low profile and not using high and harsh rhetoric. But ten years ago, politicians learned when a demonstration about Palestine was held and on the news. The Arabic that was translated was so nasty that SVT chose not to show the subtitles. But the politicians got to know what and could not believe their eyes that hatred was so great against the Jews in our country. They were in acute danger.



Jews who have to keep a low profile when they are out in public. Symbols that show that they are Jews they can not wear. Girls who are not allowed to go to large parts of Malmö as Muslims can do something terrible. I have a strong compassion for Jews. And this is a Sweden I fucking want to puke at.

These loud Muslims in a constantly sacrificial position who have multiplied like rabbits. Who take over our big cities and hate everything that is not connected to Islam. These constantly aggressive people can only be handled in one way. By force, coercion and deportation. They apparently only understand one language.

Here are some of the common points that the Moderates and Sweden Democrats want to fulfill if they are in government in 2022.

1. A ceiling on how long you can receive social benefits. Families who do not have a burden of proof that the adults are disabled and are able to work must obtain a certificate of employment immediately or there will be deportation. (Regarding the time period to the ceiling, M differ from SD. As SD protects the Swedish welfare system, the ceiling does not apply to native Swedes, while M wants a ceiling of 2 years.)

2. If you recieve grants then you still have to deal with the suggestions for training and job opportunities that are offered. A duty to attend for 8 hours of your time per day. And commiting serious crimes, deportation is an option. If you commit several crimes, deportation is a fact. Here, SD and M share the view that people should be expelled who have not become part of the caring community that contributes. This could have a positive effect on, among other things, gang crime.

3. If you were born in this country, you converse in Swedish. If you do not have good Swedish, many doors will close. (A positive discrimination measure applies here as they want to close all Muslim free schools, but Jewish and Christian free schools get free passes)

Sunni-muslims, you will taste truoble in a few year. Do not count on anything else.
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20 people are suspected of crimes after Koran burning and protests
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/...s-for-brott-efter-koranbranning-och-protester

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A person was arrested after members of the Danish right-wing extremist party Stram Kurs demonstrated on Stortorget.

A total of 20 people have been notified of crime after the weekend demonstrations in Malmö. Six people are suspected of crimes after an unlicensed demonstration against Islam was held on Stortorget. Among other things, it was members of the Danish right-wing extremist party Stram Kurs who demonstrated. A number of people threw around with a Koran, and are said to have kicked it. Six people were arrested there who are now suspected of incitement against ethnic groups. In connection with the incident, there was also a Koran burning at Emilstorp on the outskirts of Rosengård. The event did not attract a crowd but was filmed, by an employee of the right-wing populist site Samnytt, and was posted shortly afterwards and spread further. The Islamophobic actions led to large protests and counter-demonstrations which took a violent turn when, among other things, police vehicles were attacked. According to the police, about 300 people gathered on Amiralsgatan. Fourteen people are now after this suspected of violent riot, the latest of them was added during the last 24 hours.

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Police in riot gear stormed a rally on Friday, removing hundreds of protesters by truck. According to the police, 300 people had been on Amiralsgatan.

Another cases of incitement against ethnic groups are being investigated, which will apply to people who shouted anti-Semitic slogans during the protests in Rosengård. In that case, there is currently no suspect, as none of the persons has been identified yet. During the protests, major damage occurred to, among other things, police vehicles and municipal bus shelters. Right now, the police are working to compile the damage and bring in cost proposals for repairs.

- It has not been compiled yet, but it can be quite large sums, says Calle Persson, Malmö Police's press spokesperson.

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Calle Persson, press spokesperson at Malmö Police.

- They were sometimes very hard-working out in the field, especially on Friday night. It was violence that could potentially be fatal with stones being thrown. Many colleagues spent many hours in a row under sometimes very severe mental and physical pressure. Some injuries but fortunately were not more serious than that, says Calle Persson.

As for the motives, Calle Persson believes that it can be different for each individual.

- What motive you had can certainly be different, but many have used the opportunity as a reason to use violence, says Calle Persson.

Prosecutor Tomas Olvmyr is leading the preliminary investigation into the suspected cases of violent rioting after Friday's events in Malmö.

- The investigation is in an initial stage. They work according to traditional police methods, interrogate witnesses, check technical material, and interrogate as usual both people who have been the victims of crime and those who are suspected of the crime. Several police officers have been injured and there has also been property damage during the riot, work is underway to document this, says Tomas Olvmyr.

- In the case of violent riots, the punishment differs between participants or instigators or leaders, participants can be imprisoned for up to 4 years, while instigators can get up to 10 years. This is the penalty scale, but the penalty is usually lower than the maximum penalty. You must have participated in the riot in some way, not just stood next to it, where you make an individual assessment in each individual case. You may not have to have been beaten, but you have clearly been part of the violent riot, says Tomas Olvmyr.

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Staff from the city of Malmö clean up broken glass during Saturday morning. Bus sheds have been smashed, lampposts overturned and billboards destroyed

 
Jews do not have it easy in Sweden, and I do not need to mention the reason for that as you probably all know. But something that started with an illegal demonstration inside Malmö by the extreme right from Denmark where the Koran was used as a football and the fact that Muslims became angry, Jews still came into the picture.

Jews in Malmö have been part of the elite that built up the city. They have lived here since the turn of the century and have been model citizens as they have been integrated into Swedish society. The few Jews who remain in Malmö will also move. Synagogues and Jewish schools are exposed to vandalism. Speaking of schools. A Jewish school follows the Swedish curriculum and has part-time education that is about their roots. These schools have become popular in the last 2 decades as it has not been sustainable for Jewish students to go to normal municipal schools as they are exposed to hate crimes from Arabs and other Muslims.

The fact that the Jews have felt exposed to Muslims for 30 years in Sweden has unfortunately not been taken seriously by our country. Because when they describe their concerns, it is not alarming enough as they do it in a Swedish way. A dialogue that can not be perceived as pointing someone out, keeping a low profile and not using high and harsh rhetoric. But ten years ago, politicians learned when a demonstration about Palestine was held and on the news. The Arabic that was translated was so nasty that SVT chose not to show the subtitles. But the politicians got to know what and could not believe their eyes that hatred was so great against the Jews in our country. They were in acute danger.



Jews who have to keep a low profile when they are out in public. Symbols that show that they are Jews they can not wear. Girls who are not allowed to go to large parts of Malmö as Muslims can do something terrible. I have a strong compassion for Jews. And this is a Sweden I fucking want to puke at.

These loud Muslims in a constantly sacrificial position who have multiplied like rabbits. Who take over our big cities and hate everything that is not connected to Islam. These constantly aggressive people can only be handled in one way. By force, coercion and deportation. They apparently only understand one language.

Here are some of the common points that the Moderates and Sweden Democrats want to fulfill if they are in government in 2022.

1. A ceiling on how long you can receive social benefits. Families who do not have a burden of proof that the adults are disabled and are able to work must obtain a certificate of employment immediately or there will be deportation. (Regarding the time period to the ceiling, M differ from SD. As SD protects the Swedish welfare system, the ceiling does not apply to native Swedes, while M wants a ceiling of 2 years.)

2. If you recieve grants then you still have to deal with the suggestions for training and job opportunities that are offered. A duty to attend for 8 hours of your time per day. And commiting serious crimes, deportation is an option. If you commit several crimes, deportation is a fact. Here, SD and M share the view that people should be expelled who have not become part of the caring community that contributes. This could have a positive effect on, among other things, gang crime.

3. If you were born in this country, you converse in Swedish. If you do not have good Swedish, many doors will close. (A positive discrimination measure applies here as they want to close all Muslim free schools, but Jewish and Christian free schools get free passes)

Sunni-muslims, you will taste truoble in a few year. Do not count on anything else.
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20 people are suspected of crimes after Koran burning and protests
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/...s-for-brott-efter-koranbranning-och-protester

zlUrnBU.jpg

A person was arrested after members of the Danish right-wing extremist party Stram Kurs demonstrated on Stortorget.

A total of 20 people have been notified of crime after the weekend demonstrations in Malmö. Six people are suspected of crimes after an unlicensed demonstration against Islam was held on Stortorget. Among other things, it was members of the Danish right-wing extremist party Stram Kurs who demonstrated. A number of people threw around with a Koran, and are said to have kicked it. Six people were arrested there who are now suspected of incitement against ethnic groups. In connection with the incident, there was also a Koran burning at Emilstorp on the outskirts of Rosengård. The event did not attract a crowd but was filmed, by an employee of the right-wing populist site Samnytt, and was posted shortly afterwards and spread further. The Islamophobic actions led to large protests and counter-demonstrations which took a violent turn when, among other things, police vehicles were attacked. According to the police, about 300 people gathered on Amiralsgatan. Fourteen people are now after this suspected of violent riot, the latest of them was added during the last 24 hours.

rdvfdSB.jpg

Police in riot gear stormed a rally on Friday, removing hundreds of protesters by truck. According to the police, 300 people had been on Amiralsgatan.

Another cases of incitement against ethnic groups are being investigated, which will apply to people who shouted anti-Semitic slogans during the protests in Rosengård. In that case, there is currently no suspect, as none of the persons has been identified yet. During the protests, major damage occurred to, among other things, police vehicles and municipal bus shelters. Right now, the police are working to compile the damage and bring in cost proposals for repairs.

- It has not been compiled yet, but it can be quite large sums, says Calle Persson, Malmö Police's press spokesperson.

oBRcQ4p.jpg

Calle Persson, press spokesperson at Malmö Police.

- They were sometimes very hard-working out in the field, especially on Friday night. It was violence that could potentially be fatal with stones being thrown. Many colleagues spent many hours in a row under sometimes very severe mental and physical pressure. Some injuries but fortunately were not more serious than that, says Calle Persson.

As for the motives, Calle Persson believes that it can be different for each individual.

- What motive you had can certainly be different, but many have used the opportunity as a reason to use violence, says Calle Persson.

Prosecutor Tomas Olvmyr is leading the preliminary investigation into the suspected cases of violent rioting after Friday's events in Malmö.

- The investigation is in an initial stage. They work according to traditional police methods, interrogate witnesses, check technical material, and interrogate as usual both people who have been the victims of crime and those who are suspected of the crime. Several police officers have been injured and there has also been property damage during the riot, work is underway to document this, says Tomas Olvmyr.

- In the case of violent riots, the punishment differs between participants or instigators or leaders, participants can be imprisoned for up to 4 years, while instigators can get up to 10 years. This is the penalty scale, but the penalty is usually lower than the maximum penalty. You must have participated in the riot in some way, not just stood next to it, where you make an individual assessment in each individual case. You may not have to have been beaten, but you have clearly been part of the violent riot, says Tomas Olvmyr.

hQtxuaW.jpg

Staff from the city of Malmö clean up broken glass during Saturday morning. Bus sheds have been smashed, lampposts overturned and billboards destroyed

Live rounds can be an effective tool by government to squash violent riotous behavior and restore order. Most people like to continue breathing and will behave themselves if live rounds are being liberally distributed.
 
Live rounds can be an effective tool by government to squash violent riotous behavior and restore order. Most people like to continue breathing and will behave themselves if live rounds are being liberally distributed.

I was one of those who closed my eyes and always thought that a nice treatment goes a long way. But the reality is that these strays only understand violence or deportation.

It is shocking that I will have to express myself so harshly in the year 2020. That we have so many of them in Sweden who live by the medieval motto. Unreal.
 
I was one of those who closed my eyes and always thought that a nice treatment goes a long way. But the reality is that these strays only understand violence or deportation.

It is shocking that I will have to express myself so harshly in the year 2020. That we have so many of them in Sweden who live by the medieval motto. Unreal.
My comment, while dark, was mostly in jest. Mostly.
 
Hardline Muslims simply cannot integrate into any society that isn't Muslim. In fact, they can barely do that in some parts of the middle East, if that society isn't hardline enough for their particular beliefs. Completely incompatible with European life and society.
 
Jews do not have it easy in Sweden, and I do not need to mention the reason for that as you probably all know. But something that started with an illegal demonstration inside Malmö by the extreme right from Denmark where the Koran was used as a football and the fact that Muslims became angry, Jews still came into the picture.

Jews in Malmö have been part of the elite that built up the city. They have lived here since the turn of the century and have been model citizens as they have been integrated into Swedish society. The few Jews who remain in Malmö will also move. Synagogues and Jewish schools are exposed to vandalism. Speaking of schools. A Jewish school follows the Swedish curriculum and has part-time education that is about their roots. These schools have become popular in the last 2 decades as it has not been sustainable for Jewish students to go to normal municipal schools as they are exposed to hate crimes from Arabs and other Muslims.

The fact that the Jews have felt exposed to Muslims for 30 years in Sweden has unfortunately not been taken seriously by our country. Because when they describe their concerns, it is not alarming enough as they do it in a Swedish way. A dialogue that can not be perceived as pointing someone out, keeping a low profile and not using high and harsh rhetoric. But ten years ago, politicians learned when a demonstration about Palestine was held and on the news. The Arabic that was translated was so nasty that SVT chose not to show the subtitles. But the politicians got to know what and could not believe their eyes that hatred was so great against the Jews in our country. They were in acute danger.



Jews who have to keep a low profile when they are out in public. Symbols that show that they are Jews they can not wear. Girls who are not allowed to go to large parts of Malmö as Muslims can do something terrible. I have a strong compassion for Jews. And this is a Sweden I fucking want to puke at.

These loud Muslims in a constantly sacrificial position who have multiplied like rabbits. Who take over our big cities and hate everything that is not connected to Islam. These constantly aggressive people can only be handled in one way. By force, coercion and deportation. They apparently only understand one language.

Here are some of the common points that the Moderates and Sweden Democrats want to fulfill if they are in government in 2022.

1. A ceiling on how long you can receive social benefits. Families who do not have a burden of proof that the adults are disabled and are able to work must obtain a certificate of employment immediately or there will be deportation. (Regarding the time period to the ceiling, M differ from SD. As SD protects the Swedish welfare system, the ceiling does not apply to native Swedes, while M wants a ceiling of 2 years.)

2. If you recieve grants then you still have to deal with the suggestions for training and job opportunities that are offered. A duty to attend for 8 hours of your time per day. And commiting serious crimes, deportation is an option. If you commit several crimes, deportation is a fact. Here, SD and M share the view that people should be expelled who have not become part of the caring community that contributes. This could have a positive effect on, among other things, gang crime.

3. If you were born in this country, you converse in Swedish. If you do not have good Swedish, many doors will close. (A positive discrimination measure applies here as they want to close all Muslim free schools, but Jewish and Christian free schools get free passes)

Sunni-muslims, you will taste truoble in a few year. Do not count on anything else.
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20 people are suspected of crimes after Koran burning and protests
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/...s-for-brott-efter-koranbranning-och-protester

zlUrnBU.jpg

A person was arrested after members of the Danish right-wing extremist party Stram Kurs demonstrated on Stortorget.

A total of 20 people have been notified of crime after the weekend demonstrations in Malmö. Six people are suspected of crimes after an unlicensed demonstration against Islam was held on Stortorget. Among other things, it was members of the Danish right-wing extremist party Stram Kurs who demonstrated. A number of people threw around with a Koran, and are said to have kicked it. Six people were arrested there who are now suspected of incitement against ethnic groups. In connection with the incident, there was also a Koran burning at Emilstorp on the outskirts of Rosengård. The event did not attract a crowd but was filmed, by an employee of the right-wing populist site Samnytt, and was posted shortly afterwards and spread further. The Islamophobic actions led to large protests and counter-demonstrations which took a violent turn when, among other things, police vehicles were attacked. According to the police, about 300 people gathered on Amiralsgatan. Fourteen people are now after this suspected of violent riot, the latest of them was added during the last 24 hours.

rdvfdSB.jpg

Police in riot gear stormed a rally on Friday, removing hundreds of protesters by truck. According to the police, 300 people had been on Amiralsgatan.

Another cases of incitement against ethnic groups are being investigated, which will apply to people who shouted anti-Semitic slogans during the protests in Rosengård. In that case, there is currently no suspect, as none of the persons has been identified yet. During the protests, major damage occurred to, among other things, police vehicles and municipal bus shelters. Right now, the police are working to compile the damage and bring in cost proposals for repairs.

- It has not been compiled yet, but it can be quite large sums, says Calle Persson, Malmö Police's press spokesperson.

oBRcQ4p.jpg

Calle Persson, press spokesperson at Malmö Police.

- They were sometimes very hard-working out in the field, especially on Friday night. It was violence that could potentially be fatal with stones being thrown. Many colleagues spent many hours in a row under sometimes very severe mental and physical pressure. Some injuries but fortunately were not more serious than that, says Calle Persson.

As for the motives, Calle Persson believes that it can be different for each individual.

- What motive you had can certainly be different, but many have used the opportunity as a reason to use violence, says Calle Persson.

Prosecutor Tomas Olvmyr is leading the preliminary investigation into the suspected cases of violent rioting after Friday's events in Malmö.

- The investigation is in an initial stage. They work according to traditional police methods, interrogate witnesses, check technical material, and interrogate as usual both people who have been the victims of crime and those who are suspected of the crime. Several police officers have been injured and there has also been property damage during the riot, work is underway to document this, says Tomas Olvmyr.

- In the case of violent riots, the punishment differs between participants or instigators or leaders, participants can be imprisoned for up to 4 years, while instigators can get up to 10 years. This is the penalty scale, but the penalty is usually lower than the maximum penalty. You must have participated in the riot in some way, not just stood next to it, where you make an individual assessment in each individual case. You may not have to have been beaten, but you have clearly been part of the violent riot, says Tomas Olvmyr.

hQtxuaW.jpg

Staff from the city of Malmö clean up broken glass during Saturday morning. Bus sheds have been smashed, lampposts overturned and billboards destroyed

Swedes also leaving sweden
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.se/20160107/more-swedes-than-ever-are-moving-abroad/amp
The 50k is probably gross estimation but its a terrible number for a 10m country
And the swedes that leave are the high quality workforce

I wonder how it will effect the very successful sweden high tech
 
Swedes also leaving sweden
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.se/20160107/more-swedes-than-ever-are-moving-abroad/amp
The 50k is probably gross estimation but its a terrible number for a 10m country
And the swedes that leave are the high quality workforce

I wonder how it will effect the very successful sweden high tech

It is no secret that we Swedes possess a know-how. If it is because we were born with it or through a big brother in the emodiment of the state who urges us to educate ourselves as far as possible and once we work, the workplace wants you to continue to be educated, to keep up with the times and to think new. We are incredibly many who work as consultants because we are constantly updated and want to know more and improve. This drive that characterizes us does not exist in Arabs or other Sunni-Muslims from Central, South and Central Asia.

No normal Swede approves if Muslims openly say that we are not in Sweden because we like you. We do not want to be like you. We have come to take over your country and when we have taken over Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland will fall. A Somali woman who through her own language received votes from only Muslims. This woman that no one knew about is now sitting in Parliament. Because we have parties in Sweden (MP, V, S) that use this large group as a voting bank, it is made possible for Muslim politicians to use the above parties as a transit, as they do not advocate the party's ideology but that it is highly ethnic and religious based politics that these Muslims will implement. They could just as easily form a completely new party called the Muslim Party. But, it makes no sense at present as there are not enough Muslims to become the largest party and form its own majority government and they want to find it difficult to capture the votes of ordinary working Swedes.The entire Swedish political establishment knows about this, but nothing happens. We are damn good at condemning but we never act.
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Swedes will lose Sweden in 50 years
https://www.ingridochmaria.se/2018/09/17/ex-muslim-mona-walter-swedes-will-lose-sweden-in-50-years/

Leila Ali Elmi, a 30-year-old Somali woman, took a seat in the Swedish parliament last Sunday without uttering one word in Swedish during her campaign.

– Why don’t Swedes understand that the Somalis and other Muslims are here to take over your country.
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There are various reasons why so many people change parties nowadays, but one is that we are very aware of the perception of time. It is urgent and we want to see realistic and sustainable methods of curbing the pressure of the ever growing sunni immigrants from the Middle East and the surrounding area. We do not want politicians to talk about poor integration, we want them to immediately address why. Witth the facts in hand from all of us Swedes who work at the front, they must comprehend that sunni muslims cannot be forced to integrate if they do not want to. The day politicians understand this, they can concentrate on areas that prevent a total collapse of Sweden's economy, identity and language.

We have already begun to see a migration from city to country for those who have the resources to do so. The next step will be to emigrate. Unless vigorous methods are used in the next change of government and that we send back as many Muslims as we can and can introduce methods they have in Denmark where foreigners are forced to move from ghetto areas, all to counteract segregation. But Denmark can do this because they have started well in advance and that they are not even close to the number of Muslims we have in Sweden. Their methods may be reprehensible, but it is a sustainable solution and in the long run these rabbits can stick to a 2.1 childbearing instead of 10.

Up to now, I was a positive human being, and I still have high hopes for a change of government. It is entirely possible now, but not in 10 years as they(sunni muslims) have got a massive generation that has come of age to vote. Sweden's next government must act radically through mass deportation where Sweden is responsible for tickets and start-up capital so they can establish themselves in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Pakistan, Turkey, Eritrea, certain parts of Somalia and Syria. We will revise religious freedom in Sweden and ban Islam. This is a good idea as long as they hopefully can leave our country voluntarily. And a punishment and reward system based on normal Swedes(white, black, sami people, east and southeast-asian) receiving weighty financial support if they have more children (this apparatus already exists in northern Sweden that has been depopulated), and Muslims will be punished by being without subsidies or deported.

Sweden must rethink and to not give a damn about what others say.

And if this does not happen, I'll see a future for my children in some country across the Atlantic and living on the west coast of Canada.
 
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