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Rigan Machado said ROLLS not Royce is the best at BJJ

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Bas Rutten Gear, May 17, 2008.

  1. Bas Rutten Gear

    Bas Rutten Gear Black Belt

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    haha I wonder if Royce caught it before the correction.
     
  3. Wilt

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    I think he's being a bit biased about Rolls.
     
  4. Bas Rutten Gear

    Bas Rutten Gear Black Belt

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    Rolls was his teacher and almost everyone that I have heard talk in the Gracie clan says Rolls was the best and then Rickson.
     
  5. Wilt

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    Exactly, you're always gonna think more highly of your teacher, that's why I said he was being biased =/.
     
  6. Bas Rutten Gear

    Bas Rutten Gear Black Belt

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    I know that but nearly every great BJJ guy out there says Rolls was the best.
     
  7. Mongol

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    Rickson by armbar and Paulo Filho's word
     
  8. Wilt

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    I could agree, but it's really hard to say when BJJ is exploding as big as it is now.
     
  9. Mikey Triangles

    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    that's not the case here. Everyone thought Rolls was the best.
     
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    Well that makes more sense.

    I couldn't buy the Royce claim.
     
  11. Bas Rutten Gear

    Bas Rutten Gear Black Belt

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    I think even Rickson said Rolls was the best, as has Royce and Renzo.
     
  12. blanko

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    no bjj practioner in their right mind would ever say that royce was the best. Most would say rickson or rolls. But you have to understand something, Rolls passed away when rickson was like 18/19 rickson has improved alot since them. Also, rickson is alot bigger than rolls. From what i read about rolls, he was a phenomenal athelte so he might have been faster and more athletic than rickson.
     
  13. Mikey Triangles

    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    Rolls used to tap Royce with both arms in his belt, and was the original practitioner to bring the Triangle Choke to BJJ and made it what it is today. Most of the entries and transitions for triangles originated with Rolls, and before that nobody used it.


    lol, hard to imagine a time when the triangle choke was some kind of l33t secret :icon_chee
     
  14. infamous mattyd

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    Rolls was the best. Period.
     
  15. Zaarin

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    Nice to see the respect for Rolls. RIP
     
  16. Foolkiller

    Foolkiller You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

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    Everyone considered Rolls the best when he was alive. Apparently he was the only guy that was able to still tap out Rickson after Rickson passed his brown belt. He is also credited with being the first to really focus on working leglocks and freestyle wrestling techniques into his BJJ game. He's probably top 10 in terms of innovators important to BJJ's development.
     
  17. Shadowdean

    Shadowdean Fear the Menanite!!!

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    Seriously, I have all the respect in the world for Royce, but who honestly thinks he has world class jiu jitsu?
     
  18. ExTravaGanzA

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    I'm pretty sure thread starter meant Rickson
     
  19. jjmuaythaiguy

    jjmuaythaiguy Brown Belt

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    I made a thread that had Relson pondering the old days and he told me that Rolls was the best.
     
  20. Mikey Triangles

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    no, I think he's right. that's why it was a REALLY BAD misprint, :icon_chee
     

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