Rickson Gracie FAQ

DonkeyKong said:
Definitely, absolutely. It tells the story of the Gracie family from the arrival of the first Gracie in Brazil until the modern days. Reila wrote it because she felt that Rorion did not give enough credit to Carlos, and he was being forgotten and ignored, when he was in fact Helio's lifelong mentor, teacher, and the patriarch of the family. So she wrote the biography, using money Roger had given her from his ADCC titles.

It is immense, and very precise, but it pissed off many people because she didn't hold anything back. And a lot of dirt which was previously just talked between black belt family friends came up and was confirmed or dismissed.

It is overall a very good book. Although it focuses on Carlos it talks about the childhood, youth and adulthood of all well-known family members, their problems, fights, etcetera and of course she covers Rickson.

Here it is: Amazon.com: Carlos Gra
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Yes. Rickson's mother was in fact the maid at their house, and not Margarida. The maid was caled Belinha. Margarida was unable to have children so Helio convinced her to pretend she was pregnant, even by wearing fake foam bellies under her clothes, while the maid had his children. Thus were born Rorion, Relson and Rickson.

The other children, Robin, Royce and Royler, were born of Vera, while he was still married and living with Margarida. Rickson only found out about his brothers and that his father had a parallel family when he was already a teenager.

As it turns out, Helio and Carlos were always outspoken about sex and reproduction as a purely natural act and their desire to form a clan, so within the family it was accepted after a while. Carlos himself had many children from several women, and Carlos Gracie Jr. being born of his best friend's wife is not exactly normal.

Still, in time the brothers considered themselves true brothers, ignoring the fact that they had different mothers. Helio continued loving and being loved by both wives, though Margarida suffered from depression due to her inability to bear children. When she died, Vera moved in with Helio and was with him until he died last year.

Nowadays Rickson's closest brother is Royler, even though they are only half-brothers who didn't know of each other's existence thoughout their childhood.
 
DonkeyKong said:
As it turns out, Helio and Carlos were always outspoken about sex and reproduction as a purely natural act and their desire to form a clan, so within the family it was accepted after a while. Carlos himself had many children from several women, and Carlos Gracie Jr. being born of his best friend's wife is not exactly normal.
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I thought Carlos Gracie jnrs mother was Layr(Carlos's third wife). Are Crolin,Rillion full brothers with Carlos jnr or half?
 
They are full brothers. After the third of Carlos's sons was born of his wife, Oscar Santa Maria came into himself and ended their friendship and all business relationships, then proceeded to sue Carlos for fraud, claiming Carlos had manipulated him for years.
 
DonkeyKong said:
Yes. Rickson's mother was in fact the maid at their house, and not Margarida. The maid was caled Rosinha. Margarida was unable to have children so Helio convinced her to pretend she was pregnant, even by wearing fake foam bellies under her clothes, while the maid had his children. Thus were born Rorion, Relson and Rickson.

The other children, Robin, Royce and Royler, were born of Vera, while he was still married and living with Margarida. Rickson only found out about his brothers and that his father had a parallel family when he was already a teenager.

As it turns out, Helio and Carlos were always outspoken about sex and reproduction as a purely natural act and their desire to form a clan, so within the family it was accepted after a while. Carlos himself had many children from several women, and Carlos Gracie Jr. being born of his best friend's wife is not exactly normal.

Still, in time the brothers considered themselves true brothers, ignoring the fact that they had different mothers. Helio continued loving and being loved by both wives, though Margarida suffered from depression due to her inability to bear children. When she died, Vera moved in with Helio and was with him until he died last year.

Nowadays Rickson's closest brother is Royler, even though they are only half-brothers who didn't know of each other's existence thoughout their childhood.
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your saying all six brothers didn't grow up together? Is this why they really don't talk to one another as often as you think they would.
 
BTTinUSA said:
Lol you havent been training long then...

EDIT: Dont you train with Eddie? How could you NOT know about the drama with the Gracies?
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You I do but I'm thinking of switching to the Gracie Academy, so that I can get experience in the gi and nogi.
 
yeahiknow said:
You I do but I'm thinking of switching to the Gracie Academy, so that I can get experience in the gi and nogi.
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If you want self-defense, go to the Gracie Academy. If you want sports jiu jitsu, there are better gyms in California.
 
DonkeyKong said:
If you want self-defense, go to the Gracie Academy. If you want sports jiu jitsu, there are better gyms in California.
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Sorry what I meant to say is that I plan on going for self defense at the gracie academy and I'm going to just take private classes at 10th planet when I can't go to the gracie academy. Thats just what I'm thinking of but I haven't done it yet. I like the people at the Gracie Academy Ralek, Rener, and Ryron are great instructors and really nice people. They gave me a trial run.

So there academy doesn't compete all in any tournaments?
 
A great thread indeed DonkeyKong!

Beautifully written.

Rickson by armbar!
 
yeahiknow said:
Sorry what I meant to say is that I plan on going for self defense at the gracie academy and I'm going to just take private classes at 10th planet when I can't go to the gracie academy. Thats just what I'm thinking of but I haven't done it yet. I like the people at the Gracie Academy Ralek, Rener, and Ryron are great instructors and really nice people. They gave me a trial run.

So there academy doesn't compete all in any tournaments?
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Ive seen a few guys here and there. But for the most part, most guys dont compete.
 
Rolls's wife replied in furious tears "I bet you are happy because now that the sun is gone, the little stars can shine".
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Wow....that's the coldest quote I've ever heard when put in the context of the story provided....ouch.
 
To give you an idea... Carlos convinced his best friend and longtime business associate Oscar Santa Maria that he (Carlos) channelled a Peruvian spirit who gave him advice, and that spirit told Carlos to have a baby with his friend's wife. He convinced his friend to allow it and impregnated her.
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And this is one of those moments when someones says something like "Hey..I'm going to tell my buddy a ghost told me to bang his wife" and you go...."You're either very smart... or incredibly stupid". lol
 
Padlock said:
And this is one of those moments when someones says something like "Hey..I'm going to tell my buddy a ghost told me to bang his wife" and you go...."You're either very smart... or incredibly stupid". lol
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The thing is Carlos was extremely charismatic. He was also very knowledgeable in alternative medicine, he was seen not only as a BJJ master but as the family's wise man, shaman, and spiritual guide. He instituted the Gracie diet, and the relationship with Oscar went that way because Carlos's hunches and foresights that he claimed came from the spirit were always right. So right that they became rich, Oscar and Carlos, thanks to Carlos's sometimes bizarre investment ideas.

His spirituality was taken very seriously by the family and everyone around him, especially because his medicines, recipes and foresights worked and he cured and helped everyone around him.

The clan was closed in their own world where only their way mattered, and the king of that world was Carlos.
 
DonkeyKong said:
The thing is Carlos was extremely charismatic. He was also very knowledgeable in alternative medicine, he was seen not only as a BJJ master but as the family's wise man, shaman, and spiritual guide. He instituted the Gracie diet, and the relationship with Oscar went that way because Carlos's hunches and foresights that he claimed came from the spirit were always right. So right that they became rich, Oscar and Carlos, thanks to Carlos's sometimes bizarre investment ideas.

His spirituality was taken very seriously by the family and everyone around him, especially because his medicines, recipes and foresights worked and he cured and helped everyone around him.

The clan was closed in their own world where only their way mattered, and the king of that world was Carlos.
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Well, Carlos Gracie JR. went on to create one of the largest Jiu-jitsu organizations, train my instructor who opened up a dominating competition school in brazil and later teach me jiu-jitsu...sooooo In a way Carlos was dead on!!! I guess he was very smart :)
 
BTTinUSA said:
Ive seen a few guys here and there. But for the most part, most guys dont compete.
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Why do you think that is? Does rorian and his son tell there students not to compete?would I be better off going to a place like Hollywood bjj
 
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