Crime RFK Jr wants to send people on Anti depressants to do forced labor at Farms

As a Canadian, I think he is overreacting to this to an incredible degree. You’d think RFK was throwing minority Muslims into prison camps and forcing labor. It’s a mother jones article that touches on the over prescription of SSRIs and RFKs thought that exercise, nutrition and being outside can help with depression. Clinically speaking, it can.
Yeah, keep making dishonest excuses. Looks good on you.
 
Yeah, keep making dishonest excuses. Looks good on you.
What am I excusing? Spell it out.

Even the mother jones article says he is looking into over prescription and his idea for getting people into nature was a throw away line on a pod cast. Get some air.
 
Remember when Reagan shut down the mental health system? Good times.
But that was to save money. This guy is doing stuff because he thinks he knows better.

He assumption seems to be that big Pharma and the healthcare system puts profit over patient care and that some meds have no benefit 100% of the time.

Certainly the overwhelming percentage of people in the patient care cycle have the patients best interests at heart. Many people show tremendous benefit from some of the medications he wants to ban.

He somehow thinks sending people out to the back yard to weed and plant vegetable is going to cure mental health problems.

Have any of you ever tried to get your depressed teenager to quit crying in their room and go weed the front yard?
 
But that was to save money. This guy is doing stuff because he thinks he knows better.

He assumption seems to be that big Pharma and the healthcare system puts profit over patient care and that some meds have no benefit 100% of the time.

Certainly the overwhelming percentage of people in the patient care cycle have the patients best interests at heart. Many people show tremendous benefit from some of the medications he wants to ban.

He somehow thinks sending people out to the back yard to weed and plant vegetable is going to cure mental health problems.

Have any of you ever tried to get your depressed teenager to quit crying in their room and go weed the front yard?
Exercise is certainly one component of treatment, and getting out into natural settings is known to be beneficial also, but it's only part of a full treatment plan a person should ideally receive including therapy and medication. Sadly, a lot of people lack the financial resources for themselves or their family members and what happens most often is they'll have pills shoved at them by a family physician at a clinic and shown the door. Poor outcomes are not the fault of the pills; rather it's the lack of inclusion of the rest of the package.

It's similar to why decriminalization of drugs has apparently worked out well in Portugal but turned into a mess in British Columbia. The Portuguese made sure to include all the supports a person needs to get clean--counselling and so on--while in BC they did it totally half-assed. It wasn't the fault of the act of decriminalization that shit hit the fan, it was that that is as far as the went.
 
But that was to save money. This guy is doing stuff because he thinks he knows better.

He assumption seems to be that big Pharma and the healthcare system puts profit over patient care and that some meds have no benefit 100% of the time.

Certainly the overwhelming percentage of people in the patient care cycle have the patients best interests at heart. Many people show tremendous benefit from some of the medications he wants to ban.

He somehow thinks sending people out to the back yard to weed and plant vegetable is going to cure mental health problems.

Have any of you ever tried to get your depressed teenager to quit crying in their room and go weed the front yard?

Getting out of bed and doing something is the cure for depression. 100%. I struggled with it a little bit in my late teens/early 20s and the solution was just to get out of bed and do something.

Depression is like addiction, it's not nearly as complicated as addicts and depressed people make it out to be. Stop drinking and go do some yard work. Done.

The rest of us don't have some magical secret. We just get up and get on with it and don't drink other than special occasions. It's not hard at all.
 
Getting out of bed and doing something is the cure for depression. 100%. I struggled with it a little bit in my late teens/early 20s and the solution was just to get out of bed and do something.

Depression is like addiction, it's not nearly as complicated as addicts and depressed people make it out to be. Stop drinking and go do some yard work. Done.

The rest of us don't have some magical secret. We just get up and get on with it and don't drink other than special occasions. It's not hard at all.
It’s not that simple though. People with major depressive disorder need to get out of bed and do stuff, but they just won’t (lack of energy and motivation). Those are the people who need antidepressants and all the other stuff @Andy Capp mentioned above. Helps if they have a support system who understand their diagnosis and are willing to ride their assess to be adherent with their treatment programs and make sure they are getting out of bed and doing things, rather than enabling them. In a way it is like an addiction. They know something is wrong and often fail to change their deleterious behavior and thinking patterns

When I was in my 20’s my brother committed suicide and I was surprised as fuck but looking back on it, it makes sense now. He used to sleep the day away and have his room pitch black with black out blinds. I just thought he was a lazy fuck cause he stayed up at night smoking weed then wouldn’t go to his community college classes in the morning. He never moved out of my parents house cause he just couldn’t make anything of himself and he was a high honor roll student in high school.
 
It’s not that simple though. People with major depressive disorder need to get out of bed and do stuff, but they just won’t (lack of energy and motivation). Those are the people who needs antidepressants and all the other stuff @Andy Capp mentioned above. Helps if they have a support system to ride their assess to be adherent with their treatment programs and make sure they are getting out of bed and doing things.

When I was in my 20’s my brother committed suicide and I was surprised as fuck but looking back on it, it makes sense now. He used to sleep the day away and have his room pitch black with black out blinds. I just thought he was a lazy fuck cause he stayed up at night smoking weed then wouldn’t go to his community college classes in the morning. He never moved out of my parents house cause he just couldn’t make anything of himself and he was a high honor roll student in high school.
Two things can be true at once:

SSRIs can be overprescribed
Some people actually need antidepressants
 

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