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You love to see Bernie chew on his own pretend virtue.
Last post since you are actually so blinded by your ideology you refuse to even read the sources I am posting.
I didn't claim anything. I posted a source from the CDC that said it was a FACT that they removed thimerosal from childhood vaccines since 2001. I quoted it in the first post.
Then I posted another source dated
from the CDC showing that they are still using thimerosal in multi-dose influenza vaccines.
I then posted another source from immunize.org dated
that showed that children in certain states where thimerosal hasn't been banned are still given multi-dose influenza vaccines with thimerosal.
Here's an official Illinois government source:
Thimerosal and Vaccines Q&A
What is thimerosal? Is it the same as mercury? Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound and has been used for decades in the United States and other countries. It's used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially...dph.illinois.gov
you destroyed that kid and he isn't even bright enough to realize it. Your gonna have to link a slate.com article or Wikipedia, those are more on his level.Last post since you are actually so blinded by your ideology you refuse to even read the sources I am posting.
I didn't claim anything. I posted a source from the CDC that said it was a FACT that they removed thimerosal from childhood vaccines since 2001. I quoted it in the first post.
Then I posted another source dated
from the CDC showing that they are still using thimerosal in multi-dose influenza vaccines.
I then posted another source from immunize.org dated
that showed that children in certain states where thimerosal hasn't been banned are still given multi-dose influenza vaccines with thimerosal.
Here's an official Illinois government source:
Thimerosal and Vaccines Q&A
What is thimerosal? Is it the same as mercury? Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound and has been used for decades in the United States and other countries. It's used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially...dph.illinois.gov
bernie has been in the house or senate since 1991 and they are reporting on contributions since 1990. again, both parties are getting the money. he's not an outlier. he's never been near the top of the list for any of his senate campaigns.This isn’t a defense
My money is on confirmation, regardless. Biden got a tranny confirmed as the assistant health sec, ffs. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Every potus nom needs to be confirmed so those assholes get all the credit if it works out and all the blame if it doesn't. No excuses, play like a champion!The throat cancer/robot voice isn't helping RFK's chances IMO..
Okay, actual last post because I'm getting tired of literally doing all the work and you just constantly ignoring it. Multiple sources show children are still receiving multi-dose vaccines containing thimerosal. The CDC is lying when it said it removed it from childhood vaccines. Again, look at an official Illinois Department of Public Health link for confirmation (you know, the people that actually administer vaccines in Illinois). They even say that Fluvirin, a single-dose flu vaccine shot contains trace amounts of thimerosal as well.
Another source for what?
Are multi-dose vaccines for flu "children's vaccines"? According to your source, they specify "children's vaccines" and provide a link to a list of vaccines and whether or not they contain thimerosal, don't they?
To wit,
Thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001.
For a complete list of vaccines and their thimerosal content level, see the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Thimerosal in Vaccines page."
- Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal.
- Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.
- Influenza (flu) vaccines are currently available in both thimerosal-containing (for multi-dose vaccine vials) and thimerosal-free versions.
Where in the other CDC document you posted does it contradict any of his? That is what you claimed. It's not even a little misleading. All the other document says is multi-dose vials of flu vaccines contain it without the added detail of the above. There is no contradiction.
Goddamn, you must be used to hanging out with a lot of knuckle-draggers if you think this is at all clever.
Edit: pardon me, upon rereading I missed where you shifted the goal posts. I'm not searching through "immunize.org", nor whatever other bullshit to "do my own research" to prove your point for you. You made the claim, let's see the contradictions. I'm sure they'll all be 100 percent double-blind randomized trials and that will settle everything once and for all so it should be easy peasy for you.
Why is thimerosal still in some flu vaccines that children may receive?
- To produce enough flu vaccine for the entire country, some of it must be put into multi-dose vials. These vials have very tiny amounts of thimerosal as a preservative. This is necessary because each time an individual dose is drawn from a multi-dose vial with a new needle and syringe, there is the potential to contaminate the vial with harmful microbes (toxins). So, this preservative is needed to prevent contamination of the vial (as a safeguard) when individual doses are drawn from it, and keep the children safety who are receiving the flu shot from the multi-dose vial. Children can safely receive flu vaccine that contains thimerosal.
- Flu vaccine that does not contain thimerosal is available in single-dose vials or single-dose syringes. One formulation of single-dose inactivated flu vaccine, Fluvirin, contains trace amounts of thimerosal.
- Thimerosal was removed from all childhood vaccines in 2001 with the exception of inactivated flu vaccine in multi-dose vials. However, thimerosal has been removed from all single-dose preparations of flu vaccine for children and adults. No acceptable alternative preservative has yet been identified for multi-dose flu vaccine vials.
The Vaccines For Children (VFC) program is a federally funded, state administered program that provides free vaccines to eligible children ages 18 and younger. Vaccines are provided at no cost to the provider or the patient. Providers are able to charge an administration fee for the vaccine.
The Illinois Department of Public Health (IDPH) is responsible for administering the VFC program within the state excluding the City of Chicago. The Chicago Department of Public Health is responsible for administering the VFC program within Chicago city limits. To learn more about the City of Chicago program, see RESOURCES in the right-hand column.
Great points here
Vaccines given to children are by definition “childhood vaccines,” no?
Another source for what?
Are multi-dose vaccines for flu "children's vaccines"? According to your source, they specify "children's vaccines" and provide a link to a list of vaccines and whether or not they contain thimerosal, don't they?
To wit,
Thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001.
For a complete list of vaccines and their thimerosal content level, see the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Thimerosal in Vaccines page."
- Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal.
- Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.
- Influenza (flu) vaccines are currently available in both thimerosal-containing (for multi-dose vaccine vials) and thimerosal-free versions.
Where in the other CDC document you posted does it contradict any of his? That is what you claimed. It's not even a little misleading. All the other document says is multi-dose vials of flu vaccines contain it without the added detail of the above. There is no contradiction.
Goddamn, you must be used to hanging out with a lot of knuckle-draggers if you think this is at all clever.
Edit: pardon me, upon rereading I missed where you shifted the goal posts. I'm not searching through "immunize.org", nor whatever other bullshit to "do my own research" to prove your point for you. You made the claim, let's see the contradictions. I'm sure they'll all be 100 percent double-blind randomized trials and that will settle everything once and for all so it should be easy peasy for you.
Heh, yeah, you better pat each other on the back because no one else will.you destroyed that kid and he isn't even bright enough to realize it. Your gonna have to link a slate.com article or Wikipedia, those are more on his level.
You think of them as bridge players? Talk about not playing with a full deck.Twisted as I am, I keep imagining Kristi Noem and Tulsi Gabbard going North/South.
I know, I know.
Depraved individual.
Totes, bro. A guy who's jacked at 71 should be nowhere near giving any health advice. Health advice should obviously be left to obese men with teeth rotting out of their head who started wearing a dress at 55 years oldHis visual lack of wellness alone should disqualify him from any matters regarding public health.