Media Reyes trains like a mad man in order to reclaim the title

Believe Reyes can put it together, and if he does it'll be the best comeback story, but Jones won that fight tho
 
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would be nice if he can come back and string together some wins. but he'll probably have to change his style up quite a bit to do so
 
loisestrad said:
It really is.
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No it's not. The word "as" refers to it in an evidentiary way, but a is not evidence of b.

Take the hypothetical that Reyes very clearly should have won, which is the viewpoint you're arguing against. In this case, the statement that "Jones winning isn't a robbery because it wouldn't be a robbery if Reyes won" makes no fucking sense. If Reyes won, that's just how it should have happened. Saying that A winning isn't a robbery because B winning wouldn't have been a robbery is completely nonsensical and doesn't seem to understand what a robbery is.

If you were saying it in purely a statement and not as a proof, that it is not a robbery AND neither winning would have been a robbery, then maybe you were missing "Just as," since "as" points towards meaning, which your sentence had none of.
 
loisestrad said:
Facts:

Jones-Reyes was a close fight that could have gone either way.

People who pretend it was a clear win for either are biased/trolling.

It wasn't a robbery. As it wouldn't have been a robbery, had Reyes won.
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Facts:

-Reyes oulanded Jon all 3 of the first rounds.

-Reyes landed the cleaner/harder shots the first 3 rounds, forcing Jon to walk onto shots with his footwork.

-Reyes stuffed all of Jon's takedowns in the first 3 rounds.

-There is no scoring criteria that would score any of the first 3 rounds for Jon. None. Walking forward isn't criteria.

Anyone who scores any of the first 3 rounds for Jon outs themselves as an uneducated eye who has subpar ability to analyze a fight.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
No it's not. The word "as" refers to it in an evidentiary way, but a is not evidence of b.

Take the hypothetical that Reyes very clearly should have won, which is the viewpoint you're arguing against. In this case, the statement that "Jones winning isn't a robbery because it wouldn't be a robbery if Reyes won" makes no fucking sense. If Reyes won, that's just how it should have happened. Saying that A winning isn't a robbery because B winning wouldn't have been a robbery is completely nonsensical and doesn't seem to understand what a robbery is.

If you were saying it in purely a statement and not as a proof, that it is not a robbery AND neither winning would have been a robbery, then maybe you were missing "Just as," since "as" points towards meaning, which your sentence had none of.
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It was a close fight. The outcome of close fights are by definition not robberies.
 
JoeRowe said:
Facts:

-Reyes oulanded Jon all 3 of the first rounds.

-Reyes landed the cleaner/harder shots the first 3 rounds, forcing Jon to walk onto shots with his footwork.

-Reyes stuffed all of Jon's takedowns in the first 3 rounds.

-There is no scoring criteria that would score any of the first 3 rounds for Jon. None. Walking forward isn't criteria.

Anyone who scores any of the first 3 rounds for Jon outs themselves as an uneducated eye who has subpar ability to analyze a fight.
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Facts:

It was close.

Facts:

Let it go.
 
Would like to see Reyes with someone without KO power. He might be pretty good just his chin is cracked. The guys who beat him only had to land the right sequence of punches early on. I want to see a guy drag Reyes to the deep end to beat him.
 
JoeRowe said:
Facts:

-Reyes oulanded Jon all 3 of the first rounds.

-Reyes landed the cleaner/harder shots the first 3 rounds, forcing Jon to walk onto shots with his footwork.

-Reyes stuffed all of Jon's takedowns in the first 3 rounds.

-There is no scoring criteria that would score any of the first 3 rounds for Jon. None. Walking forward isn't criteria.

Anyone who scores any of the first 3 rounds for Jon outs themselves as an uneducated eye who has subpar ability to analyze a fight.
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But dude he walked forward!!
 
Was a shame watching the ‘true’ champ get murdered however many times in a row after the jones fight, I definitely did not enjoy it greatly
 
Sorry to say, but he hasn't been the same since he messed up his nose vs Jan
 
snaportap21 said:
He had a very close fight with Jones. Reyes lost the same way Hendricks lost to GSP, and Tibau lost to Khabib. That’s how toss up fights go.
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2 of those weren't close fights, it's why you remember them. You remember the robbery. Reyes won 4 rounds against Jones, and Johnny smashed GSP. Can't remeber round to round scoring on that one but it was obvious GSP lost
 
His problem has always been that he fights like he already won the title. Even going back to against Jones. He thought he'd already won the first 3 rounds and so 4-5 didn't matter. Jones meanwhile fought like they did. Turns out Jones was right.

Rather than learn from that lesson that he needs to stay focused and always fight like everything's still on the table it just got worse. Now instead of thinking he's already ahead because he'd fought better than his opponent he instead just fights like he's the uncrowned champ who beat GOAT Jones. He doesn't even get ahead because he makes such sloppy mistakes from that arrogance that his opponents beat him before that can even maybe happen.

Looks like he's still got that arrogance despite 4 losses in a row from it. I'm taking his next opponent by KO.
 
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snaportap21 said:
He had a very close fight with Jones. Reyes lost the same way Hendricks lost to GSP, and Tibau lost to Khabib. That’s how toss up fights go.
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Reyes and Hendricks lost because they took their foots of the gas in the championship rounds thinking they already had enough rounds won to win the decision at least 48-47 regardless. Nobody disputes those later rounds for Jones and GSP. People who think there was a robbery just think Jones/GSP didn't win an earlier round(s) so only won ~2 rounds and therefore shouldn't have gotten the decision. Judges thought they did though so they in fact had the majority of rounds due to taking the in fact key champ rounds.

Tibau/Khabib is nothing like that. Plenty of people think Tibau won all 3 rounds or at least the 2/3 needed for the 29-28 decision. He never stopped, he kept up his game plan the whole fight and shut down Khabib's. There was no clear Khabib rounds that he inarguably should've won, let alone all 3 like the judges gave him. The whole fight is at best a toss up.

Reyes and Hendricks lost because of their own fight IQ problems. Tibau lost entirely because of the judging.
 
The guy's an "athlete," so we can't discount him. I don't care how many times he gets brutally KO'd. You can NEVER underestimate the athlete in him.
 
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