Reyes didnt do enough

Mighty Mouse lost the belt to a split decision. This thread is invalid.
 
faustian said:
So to beat Jon you have to win 4/5 rounds, and do it again in the instant rematch. Sounds fair
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Some people will tell you 4/5 still not enough, if you want beat the Champ

Some people even at 5/5 will be like "should not have left it in judges hands"
 
winkydinks said:
Nobody said 4/5 rounds. What you can't do is lose the championship rounds and have two others be questionable.
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There were 0 questionable rounds. Reyes clearly won 1-2-3 and Jones clearly won 4-5. Championship rounds don't mean shit. A round is a round is a round.
 
Murder_KickHC said:
Its an unwritten rule

Jones made him look like reindeer in lights and was all over him in championship rounds while Reyes was gassed and just tried to survive. If there was no time limit Jones wouldve eaten him alive sooner or later. Even if Reyes outpointed him with one or two barely significant jabs during early rounds which were merely just ant bites compared to the takedowns and kicks Jones threw later in the fight that possibly destroyed his ACL which his reaction kinda gives away in the Ariel Show. That its not enough to dehtrone someone like Jones and Reyes needs go back to drawing board after healing up and work on finishing moves if the rematch presents itself one day.

Its totally different story when challanger wins last 3 rounds in row and Champion gets saved by the bell not if its the other way around.
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What the fuck does a no time limit fight have to do with the fight fought under the rules agreed upon for the bout? Jones' takedowns accomplished nothing. He had 2 takedowns with roughly 5 seconds of top control and literally 0 damage from them. All you need to do to "dethrone" a champ is beat them according to the rules of the fight. The scoring is exactly the same for a title fight as any other fight. Reyes won 3 rounds. Jones won 2 rounds. None of the rounds were blowouts either way.
 
Toad Rogan said:
What the fuck does a no time limit fight have to do with the fight fought under the rules agreed upon for the bout? Jones' takedowns accomplished nothing. He had 2 takedowns with roughly 5 seconds of top control and literally 0 damage from them. All you need to do to "dethrone" a champ is beat them according to the rules of the fight. The scoring is exactly the same for a title fight as any other fight. Reyes won 3 rounds. Jones won 2 rounds. None of the rounds were blowouts either way.
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If Reyes won 3 rounds then how come Jones is the champion? Reyes just wasnt convincing enough other than first round which everyone agrees he won.
Jones made him look like reindeer in lights during championship rounds
 
Murder_KickHC said:
If Reyes won 3 rounds then how come Jones is the champion? Reyes just wasnt convincing enough other than first round which everyone agrees he won.
Jones made him look like reindeer in lights during championship rounds
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Bottom line is that if rounds 2 and 3 "weren't convincing enough" then you don't know anything about MMA. Both rounds clearly went to Reyes. Jones literally turned his back and ran multiple times in the fight and you're saying Reyes look liked a deer in the headlights? gtfo of here with that nonsense.
 
Toad Rogan said:
Bottom line is that if rounds 2 and 3 "weren't convincing enough" then you don't know anything about MMA. Both rounds clearly went to Reyes. Jones literally turned his back and ran multiple times in the fight and you're saying Reyes look liked a deer in the headlights? gtfo of here with that nonsense.
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They clearly did not go to Reyes and the bottom line is he failed to win the belt. He better work on some finishing moves if he gets the rematch oneday and try be more convincing
 
Murder_KickHC said:
If Reyes won 3 rounds then how come Jones is the champion? Reyes just wasnt convincing enough other than first round which everyone agrees he won.
Jones made him look like reindeer in lights during championship rounds
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It does not f**king matter if a round is Rd2, or Rd1, or Rd5, or Rd3 !!! EACH ROUND IS JUDGED SEPARATELY (or it *should be*) and the results handed in after each round.
Reyes won 3, Jones won 2, and the judges got it WRONG. That's that. Incompetence or corruption ($$$) we don't know.
Almost all the MMA journalists said this (go check), John McCarthy said this (go check), everyone who is an INDEPENDENT professional in the game basically. Oh and the fight metrics said this too.

You go believing what you want in your blind Jones-fanboism delusion, but .........you're wrong today, you'll be wrong tomorrow and you'll be wrong the day after that.
 
Toad Rogan said:
There were 0 questionable rounds. Reyes clearly won 1-2-3 and Jones clearly won 4-5. Championship rounds don't mean shit. A round is a round is a round.
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Well shit. You said there were zero questionable rounds, so that means there were zero questionable rounds! If you say Reyes won the first three, then Reyes won the first three! He wins! There's no way that anything you said is was the matter of opinion, bias, or subjectivity, so thank you for the facts as you've expressed them, and thank you for enlightening me to the error of my ways. Glad we had this talk.
 
Doughie99 said:
It does not f**king matter if a round is Rd2, or Rd1, or Rd5, or Rd3 !!! EACH ROUND IS JUDGED SEPARATELY (or it *should be*) and the results handed in after each round.
Reyes won 3, Jones won 2, and the judges got it WRONG. That's that. Incompetence or corruption ($$$) we don't know.
Almost all the MMA journalists said this (go check), John McCarthy said this (go check), everyone who is an INDEPENDENT professional in the game basically. Oh and the fight metrics said this too.

You go believing what you want in your blind Jones-fanboism delusion, but .........you're wrong today, you'll be wrong tomorrow and you'll be wrong the day after that.
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Almost but not everyone. Not convincing
 
Reyes could have won if he had the cardio to keep doing what he did in the opening rounds. but he faded
 
Murder_KickHC said:
Do not leave the fight in the hands of the judges
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The irony is that the sentiment behind the statement "don't leave the fight in the hands of the judges" is that if you do, you run the risk of the judges making the wrong decision (like they did in this fight). The biggest commonality between Jones and his fans is that you are all about as dumb as rocks.
 
The challenger came on strong in the beginning and the champ came on strong in the end. Neither walked away with an ass kicked. Some rounds really weren't definitive enough for a belt to change hands. Not even top 50 most nonsense decisions I've seen. Anybody still crying doesnt quite understand. Jones earned the right to get his ass BEAT if you want that belt. Not edged. BEAT. If you cant wrap your head around that you will just go unwrapped. It's quite simple
 
SlomiGa said:
Nowhere in the rulebooks does it say that. You win or lose based on performance, not held titles.
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But they do it almost every time for championship fights. Close fights usually lean towards the champion. You got to really make it decisive to get the belt, or you got to finish him. It's the nature of the sport.
 
Al Stone said:
The challenger came on strong in the beginning and the champ came on strong in the end. Neither walked away with an ass kicked. Some rounds really weren't definitive enough for a belt to change hands. Not even top 50 most nonsense decisions I've seen. Anybody still crying doesnt quite understand. Jones earned the right to get his ass BEAT if you want that belt. Not edged. BEAT. If you cant wrap your head around that you will just go unwrapped. It's quite simple
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Not just that but any other scoring system like Pride´s for example and 100% of anyone who ever lived would say Jones is clear winner.
 
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