Rewatched GSP vs. Hendricks.

[Workaholic]

48-47 gsp easy call. If rounds werent a thing hendricks won. If the fight kept going after 5 rounds hendricks would have been finished.

Quality post and true

GSP won the fight under the 10 point must rules that were in place

Hendricks would have won under Pride rules

GSP would have won if they kept on fighting since burger boy was dead tired

 

[TUFNewb]

GSP 1,3,5. Round 1 was close and Rogan's orgasmic screams of excitement from those baby elbows really swayed the sheeple aka mma media. Decision could have gone other way but not a robbery.

Big Rigg deserved to lose the fight when he came out in last round 70% singing to himself while GSP was ready for war. He broke mentally.

 

[JoeyJoeJoeJr]

Hendricks beat that ass though. He did so much more damage. Thats whats wrong with the scoring system.

If both dudes punched each other three times a piece. One dude has a busted up face and bruises. One dude doesnt have a mark. Who won?

So we should give victories to those with tougher skin? GSP bruises easy

 

[KeepItRealist]

Well, at least GSP groupies have resorted to arguing for a draw rather than claiming he won. That's some progress.

 

[Bodil]

Oh. So a 32 is like a 42 year old. That's sensible.

Where do you draw the line? At 35? 36? 37? At what point do we start disregarding a fighter's losses?

All of the greats who lost were considered unbeatable... until they lost, then people claimed they left their prime. You don't lose because you left your prime overnight, you lose because you got beat. There's 1 rule, and it's the weight. Age, length, bone density, ''size'', etc. do not matter. You sign up to fight at X lbs. That's it.

 

[Flokk]

Where do you draw the line? At 35? 36? 37? At what point do we start disregarding a fighter's losses?

All of the greats who lost were considered unbeatable... until they lost, then people claimed they left their prime. You don't lose because you left your prime overnight, you lose because you got beat. There's 1 rule, and it's the weight. Age, length, bone density, ''size'', etc. do not matter. You sign up to fight at X lbs. That's it.

Well we certainly don't give James Dean the GOAT award if we're knocking Orson Welles for being old and fat in a bad wine commercial.

But mainly this illustrates the idiocy of GOAT arguments in the first place. While also showing that by the better metric--fighters who fight and entertain--GSP is barely relevant compared to Fedor and Anderson.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

And people say BJ folded under pressure...well he didn't quit MMA after tough fights lol.

GSP's legacy is kind of a joke.

Yeah. Ok. Gsp said before the fight he was going to make an announcement after the fight.

Its funny the gsp haters best thing they can come up with is winning a very close. Hilarious.

 

[Flokk]

Yeah. Ok. Gsp said before the fight he was going to make an announcement after the fight.

Its funny the gsp haters best thing they can come up with is winning a very close. Hilarious.

Getting his ass kicked helped. And ducking a rematch in a razor close fight that many felt he lost was also not what you'd call inspiring.

 

[elanimalsantana]

Hendricks beat that ass though. He did so much more damage. Thats whats wrong with the scoring system.

If both dudes punched each other three times a piece. One dude has a busted up face and bruises. One dude doesnt have a mark. Who won?

Some people bust up, cut, etc easier than others, that doesn't mean they lost. Look at the faces of Joe Frazier and Ali after their first fight. Joe's face was a swollen bloody mess and ali had was some swelling on his jaw, but using your criteria Ale should have won hands down when Joe won (even Ali admitted it years later).

 

[Krixes]

I hate Hendricks but he won that fight 3-2. Not just that he beat the shit out GSP in a few of those rounds. It's MMA we get bad decisions all the time, I don't even care because like I said "I hate Hendricks" plus he wouldn't do the extra drug testing.

 

[Kwic]

Hendricks beat that ass though. He did so much more damage. Thats whats wrong with the scoring system.

If both dudes punched each other three times a piece. One dude has a busted up face and bruises. One dude doesnt have a mark. Who won?

On the one hand that's a perfectly reasonable example. On the other hand, some people bruise and get cut A LOT easier than others. So yes it's damage but only superficial. You can't tell who landed a better/harder punch just based on superficial damage. But yeah, if you HAD TO decide a winner, then superficial damage wins I guess. But if we are to treat MMA as a sport (which I'm not sure if it is, at least not based on the current scoring criteria) then superficial damage shouldn't count, only numbers should.

 

[rearnakedchoke]

Getting his ass kicked helped. And ducking a rematch in a razor close fight that many felt he lost was also not what you'd call inspiring.

Haha. Getting his ass kicked. Ok. How did you score the fight?

 

[kazam]

So that you won't say dumb things like:

you are the dumbass who dont understand that you cant score a round 10-10 in MMA you can say ''the round was to close to call'' but it cant be a 10-10 you fuckin casual

 

[acannxr]

you are the dumbass who dont understand that you cant score a round 10-10 in MMA you can say ''the round was to close to call'' but it cant be a 10-10 you fuckin casual

Keep digging that hole <Lmaoo>.

10–10 Round

“A 10 – 10 round in MMA is when both fighters have competed for whatever duration of time in the round and there is no difference or advantage between either fighter.”

http://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/juding_criteriascoring_rev0816.pdf

B. The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded to the winner of the round and 9 points or less must be awarded to the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).

J. The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the judges when scoring a round:
i. a round is to be scored as a 10-10 round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear dominance in a round;

http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations

 

[Flokk]

Haha. Getting his ass kicked. Ok. How did you score the fight?

I scored GSP's mangled face

 

[acannxr]

Fedor was definitely still in his ''prime'' when he lost to Werdum.

No, he wasn't. You could see his downslide in the Arlovski and Rogers fights.

When you look at it objectively, it's impossible to not have GSP as number 1.

There's no such thing as objectivity in P4P discussions, there's no logic either.

GSP won the first round.

Care to explain your rationale for that opinion? (I'm genuinely curious)

Well, at least GSP groupies have resorted to arguing for a draw rather than claiming he won. That's some progress.

I'm not a fan of GSP, and trying to label me as a "groupie" in an attempt to dismiss the points of my post demonstrates an inability to rebut.

 

[FighterTwister]

Watching highlights i find it funny that he said he hates fighting............ when i see him enjoying it..



C'mon GSP gives us a few more years of your best.....

 

[clivers]

Exactly my point

is that tony ferg in ur sig

 

[marvinparsons]

Some people bruise easy. Some people have skin so rough they don't show damage.. The Diaz brothers get grazed and they bleed..

BJ Penn barely ever bleeds, some guys are just like this.

I played rugby for years and I bled like a mad man. Other guys I played with for 15 years and barely ever saw any blood on them.

 

[Deleted member 347815]

1st round draw??

Nuh uh, Hendricks won that round and he won the fight. There's a reason GSP didn't come back after that fight.

You're right, he only came back to fight for a championship in a higher weight class against a guy that has fought 205 and has wins over Rockhold, Hendo and more.

Fuck off.