Rewatched GSP vs. Hendricks.

Round 1 | 10-10 Draw
1st Minute: GSP; takedown, guillotine attempt
2nd Minute: Hendricks; punch/elbow while defending takedown.
3rd Minute: Hendricks; takedown, clinch
4th Minute: GSP; striking
5th Minute: Draw; clinch, striking

Round 2 | 10-9 Hendricks
1st Minute: Hendricks; striking (wobbled GSP)
2nd Minute: Hendricks; striking, clinch
3rd Minute: GSP; striking
4th Minute: GSP; striking
5th Minute: Draw; striking

Round 3 | 10-9 GSP
1st Minute: Draw; striking
2nd Minute: GSP; striking
3rd Minute: Draw; striking
4th Minute: GSP, striking
5th Minute: Draw; clinch

Round 4 | 10-9 Hendricks
1st Minute: GSP; striking
2nd Minute: Hendricks; top control, short elbow cut after GSP slipped/tripped
3rd Minute: Hendricks; striking
4th Minute: Hendricks; striking, clinch
5th Minute: Draw; clinch

Round 5 | 10-9 GSP
1st Minute: Draw; takedown attempt
2nd Minute: GSP; striking, takedown
3rd Minute: Draw; clinch
4th Minute: GSP; striking
5th Minute: GSP; clinch, takedown

48-48 Draw

Good for you, you deserve a cookie from the cookie jar
 
I actually already talked about how what i said isnt a solution in this thread. I was just pointing out the flaw in the current system.

Not in the post I replied to you didn't, you fail made an ignorant argument.
 
GSP bruises easily. Should he lose simply for that reason?

Get the fuck out of here with that BS reasoning.
 

<Kpop775>

Your argument says that indeed exists the 10 - 10 round scoring criteria where also mentions that is a "rare even round", cool.
However, some other poster mentioned that it happens more than we actually think and that some judge scored the 10 - 10 round in the Lawler vs Hendricks fight... That's it.

After tones of fights in all these years that's the only fresh reference of that 10 - 10 round.

If I think about it, I had seen more 10 - 8 rounds. So basically, you ain't embarrassing shit in here.

B. The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded to the winner of the round and 9 points or less must be awarded to the loser, except for a rare even round, which is scored (10-10).

J. The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the judges when scoring a round:
i. a round is to be scored as a 10-10 round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows clear dominance in a round;

http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations


You are the one who comes closest to being embarrassed actually, since you're claiming for something that rarely happens, that it can't be turned around and that isn't even follow the criteria (orange), because that 1st round of the fight in mention was a clear 10 - 9 round for Hendricks.
 
<Kpop775>

Your argument says that indeed exists the 10 - 10 round scoring criteria where also mentions that is a "rare even round", cool.
However, some other poster mentioned that it happens more than we actually think and that some judge scored the 10 - 10 round in the Lawler vs Hendricks fight... That's it.

After tones of fights in all these years that's the only fresh reference of that 10 - 10 round.

If I think about it, I had seen more 10 - 8 rounds. So basically, you ain't embarrassing shit in here.




You are the one who comes closest to being embarrassed actually, since you're claiming for something that rarely happens, that it can't be turned around and that isn't even follow the criteria (orange), because that 1st round of the fight in mention was a clear 10 - 9 round for Hendricks.
You said that 10-10 rounds are impossible, I proved they are, and no amount of moving the goal post will change the fact that you were wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself.
 
You said that 10-10 rounds are impossible, I proved they are, and no amount of moving the goal post will change the fact that you were wrong.

You're embarrassing yourself.
You're trying too much in here... I did ask if a 10 - 10 round was even possible and I said: "I don't think so..." which is quite different from surely establish that is an impossible situation.
Stop twisting the arguments kid and make yourself a favor by knock this shit off.
 
That's like saying James Dean would have been the best actor of all time. Well, no. He would have been in some stinkers and he would have gotten old. If you want to factor in the 'golden years' of other GOATS then you need to figure out a metric that considers GSP retiring at 32 or 33 while other guys kept fighting into their late 30s and 40s.

And beating ancient one-eyed Bisping was about as badass as Silva beating Forrest. A fun diversion, just not that amazing. Actually, Silva did it in a far more ridiculously cool way...(edit) and Fedor beat bigger guys his entire career lmao.

There no such thing as ''prime''. Fedor was definitely still in his ''prime'' when he lost to Werdum. Did he magically get old overnight? You judge a legacy based on everything between and including the first and last fight. It doesn't matter if one guy is 33 and the other is 37.

Regarding Silva, he got submitted by a few japanese cans in his ''prime'' and is now nearing double digit losses. He also lost to the same one-eye Bisping that GSP destroyed inside two rounds.

Just look at the records

Fedor: 38-5-1 5 losses, many in his ''prime'', none avenged, still a great record and arguably top HW of all time.
Silva: 34-8 (1) plague with losses, lost in every way possible and to cans in japan, great string of défenses, but pissed hot twice, so is DQ from any goat list.
MM: 27-3-1 great record, great string of défenses, but literally fought nobodies.
Jones: 22-1 (1) would have been the GOAT if he didnt abuse roids his whole career. that alone DQs him from any goat list forever.
DC: 21-1 (1) great record, LHW and HW champ, but is lacking a long string of a defenses
GSP: 26-2 beat everyone he faced (only one on the list), MW and WW champ, 9x défenses, most top 5 and top 10 wins

When you look at it objectively, it's impossible to not have GSP as number 1.
 
Time machine time....back back... ok here we are...’And STILL’... ok back to the present...(BTW, get a life)
 
There no such thing as ''prime''. Fedor was definitely still in his ''prime'' when he lost to Werdum. Did he magically get old overnight? You judge a legacy based on everything between and including the first and last fight. It doesn't matter if one guy is 33 and the other is 37.

Regarding Silva, he got submitted by a few japanese cans in his ''prime'' and is now nearing double digit losses. He also lost to the same one-eye Bisping that GSP destroyed inside two rounds.

Just look at the records

Fedor: 38-5-1 5 losses, many in his ''prime'', none avenged, still a great record and arguably top HW of all time.
Silva: 34-8 (1) plague with losses, lost in every way possible and to cans in japan, great string of défenses, but pissed hot twice, so is DQ from any goat list.
MM: 27-3-1 great record, great string of défenses, but literally fought nobodies.
Jones: 22-1 (1) would have been the GOAT if he didnt abuse roids his whole career. that alone DQs him from any goat list forever.
DC: 21-1 (1) great record, LHW and HW champ, but is lacking a long string of a defenses
GSP: 26-2 beat everyone he faced (only one on the list), MW and WW champ, 9x défenses, most top 5 and top 10 wins

When you look at it objectively, it's impossible to not have GSP as number 1.
You kinda missed the point.

"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
 
You kinda missed the point.

"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

You start fighting, then you stop fighting. Everything in between counts. Otherwise everyone would be 20-0, then go 0-10 and say ''but the last 10 don't count I was out of prime''.
 
You start fighting, then you stop fighting. Everything in between counts. Otherwise everyone would be 20-0, then go 0-10 and say ''but the last 10 don't count I was out of prime''.
Oh. So a 32 is like a 42 year old. That's sensible.
 
That version of Hendricks was one scary dude. Khabib has night terrors to this day thinking about that matchup.
 
Round 1 | 10-10 Draw
1st Minute: GSP; takedown, guillotine attempt
2nd Minute: Hendricks; punch/elbow while defending takedown.
3rd Minute: Hendricks; takedown, clinch
4th Minute: GSP; striking
5th Minute: Draw; clinch, striking

Round 2 | 10-9 Hendricks
1st Minute: Hendricks; striking (wobbled GSP)
2nd Minute: Hendricks; striking, clinch
3rd Minute: GSP; striking
4th Minute: GSP; striking
5th Minute: Draw; striking

Round 3 | 10-9 GSP
1st Minute: Draw; striking
2nd Minute: GSP; striking
3rd Minute: Draw; striking
4th Minute: GSP, striking
5th Minute: Draw; clinch

Round 4 | 10-9 Hendricks
1st Minute: GSP; striking
2nd Minute: Hendricks; top control, short elbow cut after GSP slipped/tripped
3rd Minute: Hendricks; striking
4th Minute: Hendricks; striking, clinch
5th Minute: Draw; clinch

Round 5 | 10-9 GSP
1st Minute: Draw; takedown attempt
2nd Minute: GSP; striking, takedown
3rd Minute: Draw; clinch
4th Minute: GSP; striking
5th Minute: GSP; clinch, takedown

48-48 Draw
GSP won the first round.
 
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