Retiring means you're no longer available for USADA testing.

[The Natural Born Runner]

I dont understand. He beat Robbie Lawler twice? Did he just not want the belt anymore so he gave it away?

What a nice guy.

I'm the biggest Lawler fan on this site probably... but he lost that second fight.

 

[Air Lats]

Well we don't know if he officially sent USADA the letter, but if my theory is correct and he did this to avoid testing then he obviously did. Doesn't seem that hard. He could of sent it before he even sent the tweet. Once he realized he was going to fail his next test he could of notified all the proper authorities.

Your theory on him being in iceland and having a third strike could also be true.

What I do no is literally nothing else makes sense other than him retiring due some USADA fiasco. If you think something else does you mind offering it up?

Yeah I'm with you, man. All these theories of him leveraging more out of the UFC just do not sound right to me. Not with Lorenzo bragging about C being their first $100M athlete and their great relationship.

I think it has to be impending drug test failure doom OR something none of us are even considering.

The whole Conor VS the UFC narrative has always felt like a media created story to me.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Did the VADA testing actually happen in the end?

There was very little media coverage around it actually happening.

There was lots of criticism, because Georges was doing it all himself. Johny's argument was, why am I trusting you (my opponent) with the testing methods - it should be something regulated under the usual standards.

As aforementioned, where was the VADA testing for Condit? Wasn't so receptive to that one.

Show me an article around the passed VADA test for GSP and Hendricks? I can admit when I'm wrong.

Yes they did happen and results were made public you fucking uneducated piece of shit.

 

[fatlipjesus]

I'm not surprised MFers!

Do to the nature of the sport guys will always be looking for a advantage. GSP fought a ton of fights in Canada which was very suspect and his exit was very odd.

Fighting a ton of fights in his homeland of Canada (a huge mma market at the time) is suspect? OMG, YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING. NOW WE JUST GOTTA STOP ALL DEM DURTY AMERICANS FROM FIGHTING IN VEGAS!!! FISHY BUSINESS THAT!

 

[DragRacer]

Freeze frame when anybody is breathing hard after an athletic competition if you feel the need to make slanderous accusations of steriod use about them.

His allegedly HGH gut always intrigued me.

 

[Air Lats]

Is that Mads in your display pic?

Yeah. Big fan.

I mean, I'm not prone to being a 'fan' of anybody.

Great 'Admirer', I guess. No homo. Although Mads does make me wonder sometimes - lol.

It's from 'Valhalla Rising'.

 

[Was at Pride GP 2000]

Eye-test doesn't work.

Have GSP used something during his career that was banned? Sure, it's possible and maybe even probable, but the fact still remain that GSP was ready to do WADA testing even before the UFC decided to bring in USADA.

If eye test don't work neither do breath test. Saying he would test and taking a blood test are 2 different things.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Yes they did happen and results were made public you fucking uneducated piece of shit.

Alright, calm down you soppy cunt.

Did I insult your favorite fighter? Awww... you going to cry? or throw a tantrum?

Show me the results, a source, a webpage, something - and then I'll leave you alone.

 

[FlyingKimurabar]

I think the most likely thing is he hasn't retired and he's just acting like a spoilt child.

If it's usada related it's much more likely to be a whereabouts violation which would explain kavs "sidelined" comment. That said, Dee find conors stuff and I don't think she would mess up filling Iceland, but then we know conor is pretty unreliable.

You think Conor, mr i'm all about the money, is pulling out of by far his biggest payday, the biggest payday in mma history, the biggest ppv in ufc history, an historical event, because he's being a spoiled brat? He already signed the contract to fight Nate, you think he suddenly thinks he deserves way more now a month later and refuses to fight without it? A fight that probably doubles his net worth or close to it?

No way.

What I think is Conor has connections with the UFC and learned he was going to be tested soon, was informed by his team that he wouldn't pass, so he quick retired to avoid the test. At the UFC is making up this completely retarded excuse about not attending a press conference to help cover shit up. We all know that isn't the real reason, so why are they lying? To save face? Maybe, if Conor pulling out because he wanted more money was an actual possibility. But it isnt.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Well vada claim to.

They say they use wada protocol on collection, and wada labs but nobody actually knows what vada do because they don't publish any data whatsoever, no numbers, no details on numbers of tests. What tested for etc.

No transparency at all, which actually goes against wada protocol

Vada are a private enterprise with no transparency and nobody overseeing what they do, and as an anti doing agency simply can't be trusted.

OH okay VADA is just a criminal testing org because you said so.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Yeah. Big fan.

He is the MAN!

 

[ThunderStruck]

Alright, calm down you soppy cunt.

Did I insult your favorite fighter? Awww... you going to cry? or throw a tantrum?

Show me the results, a source, a webpage, something - and then I'll leave you alone.

If you were around back then (you clearly were not) you would have seen the thread. There was a thread every time GSP got a random testing (occured 2 or 3 times) and then VADA posted the results saying all the samples came up clean. You go on and do the work. Everyone who was around back then has seen them im not going to waste my time because you were probably still sucking your mom's tits back then you lil kid.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

OH okay VADA is just a criminal testing org because you said so.

What he said were facts though...

Don't you get it? When @dimspace talks about PEDs, you listen!

 

[Air Lats]

He is the MAN!

Image saved. Thanks!

I've done some stage acting and I know how hard it is. Mads is a great actor and he also seems to be a really cool guy.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

If you were around back then (you clearly were not) you would have seen the thread. There was a thread every time GSP got a random testing (occured 2 or 3 times) and then VADA posted the results saying all the samples came up clean. You go on and do the work. Everyone who was around back then has seen them im not going to waste my time because you were probably still sucking your mom's tits back then you lil kid.

I wasn't on Sherdog, no.

Does that automatically mean I don't know anything about MMA? No.

You're the one calling me out, so you do the work to prove me wrong, dummy.

If you're right, that's fine. I'll admit I was wrong about that factoid and move on.

Thing is, that's like 2% of my entire argument. You'll simply just prove that he had VADA test, one time and passed one time. You will not prove that he was not on any substance for the rest of his career, which is clearly important here.

Nevermind... you obviously love GSP, you obviously don't know the signs of HGH use. That's okay.

 

[dim_]

What I think is Conor has connections with the UFC and learned he was going to be tested soon, was informed by his team that he wouldn't pass, so he quick retired to avoid the test. At the UFC is making up this completely retarded excuse about not attending a press conference to help cover shit up. We all know that isn't the real reason, so why are they lying? To save face? Maybe, if Conor pulling out because he wanted more money was an actual possibility. But it isnt.

But nobody at the UFC has access to the usada testing schedule.

The various parts of the adams system all have separate permissions. UFC can't see upcoming test dates of planned testing.

His contact would need to be either at usada or at the nominated nada which in this case would be the Icelandic Olympic committee

 

[ThunderStruck]

Prior to GSP's fight with Condit, GSP asked Condit to do enhanced PED testing through VADA. Condit said that GSP had too close of a relationship with VADA and it made Condit uncomfortable. So instead Condit invited GSP to do enhanced testing through USADA. GSP did not accept.

You guys do know this right?

It was too close up to the fight to do the full USADA testing which has to begin 4 months before the event. VADA i think begins 3 months before the event at least thats what happened when GSP was tested by them prior to the Hendricks fight.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

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I've done some stage acting and I know how hard it is. Mads is a great actor and he also seems to be a really cool guy.

He is an unbelievable actor.

Not sure if you've ever watched Hannibal the TV series, but he essentially makes you forget that Anthony Hopkins ever existed. He is top draw, and as you stated, a great guy.

 

[dim_]

OH okay VADA is just a criminal testing org because you said so.

Didn't say criminal, but they have nobody overseeing them, and they don't publish any data, test numbers etc

So effectively nobody is monitoring them and we don't know what they do, hour they do it, and how often they do it

 

[fatlipjesus]

I'm the biggest Lawler fan on this site probably... but he lost that second fight.

That's too bad. I guess you can't find any clean fighters to be a fan of. Hes obviously on something