Research Shows "grit" more important than IQ

[jehosafats]

The problem with notions like "grit" is often they lead people to believe individualism is the end all be all. Going by this measure, asking for help is the anthesis of success. You only succeed when you do it yourself. People who take grit too literally are sure to fail.

 

[RYOTOOOOOO]

Research Shows 'Doing Shit' is Greatest Correlating Variable with 'Getting Shit Done'

 

[ultramanhyata]

And if the uncle and sister didn't preserve their relationship over the years or if the nephew didn't foster a strong relationship with the uncle, it wouldn't have mattered very much.

Or if the nephew chose a profession where his uncle couldn't help him. Even when people are "gifted" jobs by family, there's more to it than just being born to the right set of loins.

So something being my ball to drop... and something that involves my having to make the cut and win the wide-receiver position... are, basically, the same thing. Got it.

It's similar to the idea that my ability to properly steward the 10 million dollars I inherited is just as difficult, in its own way, as earning his first 10 mil is for the kid coming out of the working-class family.

 

[sangreporsangre]

Man, I would hate to be in a position where I attribute all my success to "networking".

 

[panamaican]

So something being my ball to drop... and something that involves my having to make the cut and win the wide-receiver position... are, basically, the same thing. Got it.

It's similar to the idea that my ability to properly steward the 10 million dollars I inherited is just as difficult, in its own way, as earning his first 10 mil is for the kid coming out of the working-class family.

Well, since I never said that I'm at a loss on how to reply.

I said it takes hard work, not harder, not the same. Stewarding 10 million dollars certainly isn't easy although I wouldn't say it's necessarily harder than earning it.

Of course, if you earn it as a musician or an athlete or selling some code you came up with is certainly different than earning it through a regular job and smart savings and aggressive investment strategies.

 

[AgeofEmpires2**]

Exactly. When you win the vaginal lottery, think of all the pain that persons mother went through to bear them.

People dont realize that someone had to suffer. Its not as easy as those Commies make it out to be.

Almost every NBA player won the athletic genetic lottery, almost every high paying model won the good looking genetic lottery as well. If you're going to try and make 'success' as equal as possible then we have to look at all forms of success. We will pour acid on models faces and chop off the NBA players legs at the same time we do whatever it is you want to suggest because you and other people on this board clearly have a war out on simply preventing family from being family to create your utopian world where life is unfair.

Did anyone see Joe Biden's son just got a new spot on the board of directors for an energy company or something that is meddling with Ukraine? NETWORKING!

 

[Briar]

Did anyone see Joe Biden's son just got a new spot on the board of directors for an energy company or something that is meddling with Ukraine? NETWORKING!

What trust fund babies call "networking" is known to regular people as cronyism.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Almost every NBA player won the athletic genetic lottery, almost every high paying model won the good looking genetic lottery as well. If you're going to try and make 'success' as equal as possible then we have to look at all forms of success. We will pour acid on models faces and chop off the NBA players legs at the same time we do whatever it is you want to suggest because you and other people on this board clearly have a war out on simply preventing family from being family to create your utopian world where life is unfair.

The objective of those who care about equality isn't to alter unalterable, enviable physical or mental characteristics. It's to alter the way those with such characteristics are financially enriched, relative to those without them. It's the part of the world's "unfairness" equation that can, quite easily, be made significantly more fair.

 

[ultramanhyata]

What trust fund babies call "networking" is known to regular people as cronyism.

No... Cronyism and nepotism are "networking". And a trust fund baby calling their investment analyst to see how their portfolio is doing is "hard work".

 

[AgeofEmpires2**]

The objective of those who care about equality isn't to alter unalterable, enviable physical or mental characteristics. It's to alter the way those with such characteristics are financially enriched, relative to those without them. It's the part of the world's "unfairness" equation that can, quite easily, be made significantly more fair.

An ugly person wants to be prettier, a short person taller, and a poor person richer. So it's quite clear why you and others are parading for it.

Swanson 101: Capitalism - To see who is smart, and who is poor.

 

[ultramanhyata]

An ugly person wants to be prettier, a short person taller, and a poor person richer. So it's quite clear why you and others are parading for it.

Some of us are "parading" for it because we have a moral problem with over 20,000 human beings a day dying from hunger while others eat caviar and truffles and then shit them out on a $30,000 toilet.

Swanson 101: Capitalism - To see who is smart, and who is poor.

Gladiatorial Combat - To see who is strong and who is dead.

Both equally civilized.

 

[2014Classic**]

Could have probably used a better word then "grit".

Even "not lazy" would have done.

That's all.

 

[AgeofEmpires2**]

Some of us are "parading" for it because we have a moral problem with over 20,000 human beings a day dying from hunger while others eat caviar and truffles and then shit them out on a $30,000 toilet.



Gladiatorial Combat - To see who is strong and who is dead.

Both equally civilized.

Money is a medium of exchange. The idea that money in itself could solve all of the world's problems is exactly why Africa is having a population boom, rampant spreading of STDs, and as you said... some are dying from hunger because they can't provide for themselves. Funding only grows the problem and creates a bubble- eventually bubbles burst.

The key to eradicating poverty is self-reliance and education which won't come if you try to 'equalize' everyone through monetary means. QE is actually direct evidence of this. Even in the white Nordic utopias they're cutting back on immigration because they realize money is only a temporary fix to an eternal problem. Not to mention money isn't a limitless supply like many would like to imagine. After the food stamps runs out for the year in every country, those people pro-created and now need MORE food stamps and the government needs MORE funding for other things. Just throwing this out there, It would make more sense to send impoverished people to work on their own farms than it would to continue monthly welfare programs.

Welfare has never eradicated poverty yet people are so hell-bent on believing it is the equalizer. I don't expect you to understand any of this really, you can tell a child Santa doesn't exist but he's only going to believe it once he figures it out himself.

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

Almost every NBA player won the athletic genetic lottery, almost every high paying model won the good looking genetic lottery as well. If you're going to try and make 'success' as equal as possible then we have to look at all forms of success. We will pour acid on models faces and chop off the NBA players legs at the same time we do whatever it is you want to suggest because you and other people on this board clearly have a war out on simply preventing family from being family to create your utopian world where life is unfair.

Dumbest analogy eva.

A 7' foot man and a 5' man cannot make themselves 6', but society can easily give everyone an opportunity without harming anyone.

The fact that you have to compare it with maiming people means you dont really have any plausible argument.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Grit you say. Well most of us, I think, define grit in a certain way. Therefore I will try and join up with one of the Asian or Hispanic gangs around me. Sell drugs, become their #1 hitman, whatever.

I am sure grit will separate you from some people but not all. There will be other factors because every situation is different. You compare one person to this person, and yes, there may be a difference in one quality, whereas if you compare with another it could be yet another quality.

I don't understand the point of these threads. Is it meant to show us that the rich people are the best and the brightest, and the lower classes really are that stupid?

Rich people only deserve to keep their money as much as they can at that very moment. No one should do them any favors either. If the lowly workers are going to strike, collectively bargain to get more of the rich boss's money, then so be it.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

they reported the information from the article wrong.

They are talking about what leads students to get better grades...


you can't extend this to the working world.
On top of that she did not stratify her research, she says she studied students from different backgrounds, but didn't sort out their performance by their backgrounds which most researchers would have done.

The article basically just says if you study more you get better grades, big duh.
Don't know how Business Insider got what they did from it.

Plus it is not like students learn from a single computer program that teaches everything the same way and gives the same tests at the same time.

 

[ben236]

Dumbest analogy eva.

A 7' foot man and a 5' man cannot make themselves 6', but society can easily give everyone an opportunity without harming anyone.

The fact that you have to compare it with maiming people means you dont really have any plausible argument.

We can implement affirmative action for height in the NBA. 50% of players on a team need to be 6 feet and under and 25% of them need to be 5.6' and under.

Those seven footers need to check their privilege.

 

[AgeofEmpires2**]

^ I think that's a great idea. I know there are adult basketball leagues with the same policy. It's time we implement it in the NBA.

Dumbest analogy eva.

A 7' foot man and a 5' man cannot make themselves 6', but society can easily give everyone an opportunity without harming anyone.

The fact that you have to compare it with maiming people means you dont really have any plausible argument.

*Facepalm*

Most retarded counter argument ever.

A short person can have surgery to make themselves taller and a tall person can have surgery to make themselves shorter, no? Stealing money from those who have earned it can be interpreted as harming them as well. But then again what's the point of working 40 hours over 20 if you're going to disperse it equally? Not knowing this shows you have no idea what communist countries did to those who once had 'private property'. Go ask them if they felt being forced off their family farm to an urban ghetto for the good of equality wasn't harming anyone.

The fact that you can't understand the simple concepts that someone, somewhere, is suffering inequality no matter what it may be from wealth to social status and how both are intrinsically related due to purely ones perception. A poor man can feel rich, a rich man can feel poor, an ugly man can feel handsome, and a handsome man can feel ugly. Are kids dying in the streets in America? We have tons of welfare programs and you idiots still aren't happy.

You social justice crusaders, promoting theft of other peoples money, need to go volunteer at your local homeless shelter and leave everyone else the fuck alone, especially your room temperature IQ responses on here.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

^ I think that's a great idea. I know there are adult basketball leagues with the same policy. It's time we implement it in the NBA.



*Facepalm*

Most retarded counter argument ever.

A short person can have surgery to make themselves taller and a tall person can have surgery to make themselves shorter, no? Stealing money from those who have earned it can be interpreted as harming them as well. But then again what's the point of working 40 hours over 20 if you're going to disperse it equally? Not knowing this shows you have no idea what communist countries did to those who once had 'private property'. Go ask them if they felt being forced off their farm to an urban ghetto for the good of equality wasn't harming anyone.

The fact that you can't understand the simple concepts that someone, somewhere, is suffering inequality no matter what it may be from wealth to social status and both are intrinsically related due to purely ones perception. A poor man can feel rich, a rich man can feel poor, an ugly man can feel handsome, and a handsome man can feel ugly. Are kids dying in the streets in America? We have tons of welfare programs and you idiots still aren't happy.

You social justice crusaders, promoting theft of other peoples money, need to go volunteer at your local homeless shelter and leave everyone else the fuck alone, especially your room temperature IQ responses on here.

the game would then be more athletic and fast paced. It will be more about ball handling, driving the lane, spreading out and moving the ball around, setting picks, getting fast breaks. Remember basketball before George Mikan came around.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Welfare has never eradicated poverty yet people are so hell-bent on believing it is the equalizer. I don't expect you to understand any of this really, you can tell a child Santa doesn't exist but he's only going to believe it once he figures it out himself.

There's a world of difference between giving money to people who are able (physically, mentally and with available opportunity) but unwilling to work and allocating profit and payroll differently among all of the working people contributing to an economy.

I am no supporter of the former and would, in fact, be OK with seeing such people perish from malnutrition or the elements.

Of course, it sounds like you consider it an "error" to feed house and clothe even those members of the human race who are incapable of investing their labor in the global economy. I think that puts you on Santa's list in the "naughty" column.