Remember when MMA pwned K-1 kickboxing?

[superpunch]

Well Reem and Mousasi are Dutch fighters who actually train with the best kickboxers in the world everyday.
MMA fighters with a wrassling background who train with the best wrasslers everyday, could still beat the best wrasslers as well, nothing weird about that.
Let's be honest 95% of all MMA fighters would loose 9/10 fights in K1 against a K1 fighter, it's just a hand full with the right background that will do ok or even good.

AMERICAN WRESTLING VS K1

AMERICAN FOOTBALL VS K1

 

[Mister Magoo]

Watching that stuff made me a Gagard fan. He was a new guy with old school mentality, anyone anytime anywhere.

 

[DayV]

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Using elbows.

 

[Changeisinevitable]

Something I did not take into account is that K-1 mostly revolved around heavyweights, which means higher KO ratios should be expected.[/QUOT

K1 max is the 70kg division which I believe was/is more exciting. Hit up mike zambidis vs chahid for what I believe is the most exciting kickboxing fight ever.

 

[Changeisinevitable]

Damn, I didn't know Bernardo had died. RIP

Yeah man, only in the last few years. So sad, he was a beast in his prime.

 

[TakadaDojoKeith]

Yeah man, only in the last few years. So sad, he was a beast in his prime.

Sure was. I just went and looked up a few stories about his passing. Apparently he suffered from depression. Made me wonder if it was the CTE kind and if it led to suicide.

To keep this thread on track, I should probably mention that I saw Bernardo's one MMA match (against Takada) live at Saitama Super Arena. It was a weird and disappointing draw.

 

[The bad boy]

I'm an even 6 feet tall. When I ran into LeBanner once in the lobby of the Shinagawa Prince Hotel, I felt tiny.

Wow! were you there trolling the K-1 fighters for autographs as they got off the bus? Good times..

I didnt think any K-1 fans who witnessed the events would still be here.

 

[BennySomo]

would be understandable if all of his losses were by submission or decision due to lay n pray but.

he's been KOd by 3 grapplers, and Brendan schaub..

its mma in small gloves are u surprised he got kod as a hw ffs.... and if u are a pro mma fighter u need good striking no matter ur background

 

[The bad boy]

September 10, 2006. Saitama Super Arena. Tokyo, Japan

A simpler time where the UFC's best resembled a 300 lb bell pepper:

While the worlds best fought here:

That night, a K-1 reject who never reached the pinnacle of the sport, won the biggest heavyweight MMA title at the time, over the former UFC champ, with only 3 years MMA training.



So K-1 fighters only need a few years to start winning world MMA titles. Mark Hunt basically quit training and he still kicks ass in MMA. Imagine his slow, out of shape body competing in K-1 now? He'd get destroyed. Yet its easy for him to remain in the top echelon.

Can someone name the last time a pure MMA fighter transitioned to kickboxing and won the title in 3 years? (In before Overroid - he had pro kickboxing fights in the 90s, so its pretty obvious that was more of a 10-15 year transition compared to Cro cops 3 years).

 

[Arm Barbarian]

Remember when K-1 Kickboxing Anal'd MMA?

 

[Karelinator]

Mirko had won no HW title at all, he won Open Weight one, by beating one actual HW.

I love Cro Cop, but come on.

 

[The bad boy]

Remember when K-1 Kickboxing Anal'd MMA?

 

[wilKO]

Is this meant to sound as retarded as possible?

"K1 reject"? Cro Cop was far from a reject.

"Biggest MMA HW title at the time"? Wasnt even a HW title. It was an Openweight GP title.

What a waste of words.

<{cruzshake}>

 

[The bad boy]

Mirko had won no HW title at all, he won Open Weight one, by beating one actual HW.

I love Cro Cop, but come on.

Um, actually he won the linear UFC belt, AND a more prestigious belt, the PRIDE OW-GP BELT!!!

 

[kungfoolmasta]

Indeed. As I remember (and I think it's in one of the old fight reports in the book I'm working on), Frye took that fight on two weeks notice and had never straight done kickboxing before.

I remember the fight was the first one after his Takayama beatdown, he probably thought that he could go all grab head punchy on a K1 fighter

 

[Lucifer Alpha]

Yea I remember when K1 was relevant ten years ago.

 

[Cooliox]

 

[$uicideboy$]

Is this meant to sound as retarded as possible?

literally yes

 

[DannyNL]

 

[$uicideboy$]

Yea I remember when K1 was relevant ten years ago.

k1 still more relevant today than flyweight