Remember when Miguel Torres was considered a GOAT

[spilotes]

He was killing it in wec when I started watching mma, in fact that’s how I started watching wec, kept hearing about how amazing this guy was so I tuned in, got hooked after seeing him and cowboy and benson. He just kinda fizzled out.

 

[dustbuster]

He was crazy good on the ground but wanted to box people up. It didn't work out too well for him.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

Not to be a dick here but did the guy have any notable wins at his peak? I remember in 2009 Frank Mir was repping the hell out of him but I never heard of half the people he was fighting.

 

[Joker Jiujitsu]

I remember a friend of mine kept saying how Miguel was the real GOAT when I said Fedor was. Then Miguel lost several fights and looked bad, and I taunted my buddy. Then Fedor lost several times... I guess I deserved that.

Miguel was fun to watch and pushed the pace and was well-rounded. He was almost like a Carlos Condit or someone like that - Jack of all trades, master of none, but an action fighter. He didn't have Carlos' chin though.

I think Torres has said he has a ton more fights than his record indicates. He had a lot of fights before they were recorded or whatever. Dude probably put a lot of miles on his body and chin with training and fighting, so it makes sense that he would start declining in his late 20s/early 30s, especially in a lighter weight class where speed, reflexes, and timing are so crucial.

 

[Andrei Orlovski]

Washed up Miguel still beat prime Mighty Mouse and got robbed.

 

[X Factor]

I loved torres dude was a beast and always went for a war in there. He’s definitely one of the best BW of all time

 

[TriangleMonkey]

Two Torres threads on the main page and it aint even cinco de mayo yet

 

[Blayt7hh]

Small fighters have a shorter shelf life. He was on the older side of BW when he started losing. The competition definitely got better too