Rampage explains how outer space is a hoax

here is a link to NPR's Ira Flatow doing what every single person who claims to be scientifically minded and grounded should be doing. giving the evidence a fair crack and a fair hearing. Jeff Meldrum is interviewed here. this should be an example for all the priests of the new religion called scientism. notice there is no mocking or slandering or lying involved.


and here is an expert from that segment where jane goodall says she is absolutely convinced that they are real. you know the woman how bucked scientific consensus and made NEW discoveries!!

Ms. JANE GOODALL (Scientist, Cambridge University): Well now you will be amazed when I tell you that I'm sure that they exist.

FLATOW: You are.

Ms. GOODALL: Yeah.

FLATOW: Did you always have this belief that they're, that they existed?

Ms. GOODALL: Well, I'm a romantic so I always wanted that.

FLATOW: And there you have it. I mean I was shocked as anybody sitting here in this room…

Dr. MELDRUM: Right.

FLATOW: …talking to her about - and she just came out with this. And she does endorse on the cover of your book.

Dr. MELDRUM: Well exactly. And, you know, she revealed a couple of levels of engagement in this subject. As she mentioned, she's a romantic. Without question the topic has that side to it because, you know, the prospect of an unknown persisting into this century right here in our own back yard - I mean it does appeal to those who hope that they're still our frontiers of exploration and so forth.

But she did go on and comment the reasons for that conviction. And it was because she had talked with many people who had had experiences. She was - some of those were Native Americans who shared their traditional knowledge and their own contemporary experiences with these creatures according to their experiences.


And so, I mean that's where the science begins to enter in, I think, is where we get beyond just the stories or the romance of the subject and pose that simple biological question, is there a species of primate behind the legends of Sasquatch.

 
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BearGrounds said:
Depends on who you talk to. There are various theories ranging from the far out, to the rather mundane.

Mostly people believe it's just about money. Multiple industries would be disrupted. Forestry and logging, real estate, state and national park services (which haul in big money annually).

It would be a complete cluster fuck of epic proportions if they admitted its existence at this point. In addition to the business issues, all of the people who had friends and family go missing in national/state parks are going to ask questions and cause problems. They'd have to write new laws to protect the creatures, and poaching would be an absolute nightmare to deal with.
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Doesn't that sound a bit silly, though, when they can't even confirm the existence of one of these things, let alone entire colonies of them that would call for protection of the species and disrupt industry?

People do go missing in national parks. They also do major searches for these people, involving large search parties, trackers, helicopters, etc, and not one verified Bigfoot sighting in all of that throughout the years? Doesn't seem plausible.

BearGrounds said:
They already have divisions to deal with the problematic ones, and keeping it hush hush has seemed to work like a charm thus far. The only growing issue is the ever encroaching human population that are all now carrying cameras in their pockets. It's certainly getting harder for them to keep the lid on things.
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They can barely keep a lid on their colleagues being :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes, and had to give up denying UFO's due to undeniable evidence. I don't see how a land mammal whose existence is pretty inconsequential, that anybody could witness and document at any time, is somehow easier to keep under wraps, than UFO's that travel at physics defying speed, and had to be tracked by military grade radar systems, and leaked by people in the military.

Bigfoot would be a great discovery by the same folks who celebrate the discovery of new microbial species. There really isn't a sound reason to keep it under wraps. I think the truth is that they just don't exist.
 
HereticBD said:
Doesn't that sound a bit silly, though, when they can't even confirm the existence of one of these things, let alone entire colonies of them that would call for protection of the species and disrupt industry?

People do go missing in national parks. They also do major searches for these people, involving large search parties, trackers, helicopters, etc, and not one verified Bigfoot sighting in all of that throughout the years? Doesn't seem plausible.


They can barely keep a lid on their colleagues being :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes, and had to give up denying UFO's due to undeniable evidence. I don't see how a land mammal whose existence is pretty inconsequential, that anybody could witness and document at any time, is somehow easier to keep under wraps, than UFO's that travel at physics defying speed, and had to be tracked by military grade radar systems, and leaked by people in the military.

Bigfoot would be a great discovery by the same folks who celebrate the discovery of new microbial species. There really isn't a sound reason to keep it under wraps. I think the truth is that they just don't exist.
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jeff meldrum thinks its a remnant species related to gigantapithicus partially because of the mid tarsal break which humans do not exhibit. this means it would be smarter than apes but not as smart as us. he also discusses it possibly being a species in danger of extinction as an explanation.

of course the question of if they exist why dont we see them all the time kind of fades into meaningless if indeed the reports are true that people are seeing them all the time.

smart enough to hide their dead is one possible explanation.

but you should check out jeff meldrums evidence in the form of tracks and trackways. he is an expert in ape locomotion and in how homo sapiens became bipedal.. its exactly his area of expertise to be examining tracks and making reliable statements about them. he says he has tacks that cannot have been faked and its not a matter of belief that bigfoot exists.. there is evidence.
 
Chad R. Thundercock said:
What's the over/under on this thread going past 100 pages?

How do you motherfuckers not run out of material?
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you shut your mouth... this thread has been epic!


also a certain percentage of the bulk of this thread is people popping in to say meaningless things that add no value. ;)
 
terrapin said:
you shut your mouth... this thread has been epic!


also a certain percentage of the bulk of this thread is people popping in to say meaningless things that add no value. ;)
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Do bigfoots (bigfeet?) shit in the woods? Asking for a friend.
 
Jballer said:
Do bigfoots (bigfeet?) shit in the woods? Asking for a friend.
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Jballer said:
Do bigfoots (bigfeet?) shit in the woods? Asking for a friend.
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Rampage explains how outer space is a hoax

here is a link to NPR's Ira Flatow doing what every single person who claims to be scientifically minded and grounded should be doing. giving the evidence a fair crack and a far hearing. Jeff Meldrum is interviewed here. this should be an example for all the priests of the new religion...
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HereticBD said:
Doesn't that sound a bit silly, though, when they can't even confirm the existence of one of these things, let alone entire colonies of them that would call for protection of the species and disrupt industry?

People do go missing in national parks. They also do major searches for these people, involving large search parties, trackers, helicopters, etc, and not one verified Bigfoot sighting in all of that throughout the years? Doesn't seem plausible.


They can barely keep a lid on their colleagues being :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes, and had to give up denying UFO's due to undeniable evidence. I don't see how a land mammal whose existence is pretty inconsequential, that anybody could witness and document at any time, is somehow easier to keep under wraps, than UFO's that travel at physics defying speed, and had to be tracked by military grade radar systems, and leaked by people in the military.

Bigfoot would be a great discovery by the same folks who celebrate the discovery of new microbial species. There really isn't a sound reason to keep it under wraps. I think the truth is that they just don't exist.
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No, it doesn't, because I'm not saying that it can't be done (it already has, just not for the civilian populace). I also never said anywhere that they live in entire colonies, where did you get that from? They live in small family units, or independently, according to general consensus within the field.

Another thing to note, is that based upon track evidence, there is about one of them to every 100 bears. They're a moving needle in a haystack.

Added to that, you guys keep missing the obvious fact that they haven't gone unnoticed, or kept completely "under wraps". Literally countless people have seen them, and continue to. They leave footprints and other sign of their existence.

It would be profitable for all sorts of government secrets to be sold, why aren't they? Could it be that stuff like the story below actually takes place?

Bigfoot Bodies Removed After 1980 Mt. St. Helens Eruption​

Bigfoot Bodies Removed After 1980 Mt. St. Helens Eruption – Washington Bigfoot

washingtonbigfoot.com washingtonbigfoot.com

That all said, you're welcome to believe that they don't exist, just like everybody else who hasn't had an experience. You're also welcome to think we're idiots, that's fine. We don't care, no offense - you might as well be telling me the moon isn't likely real because of x,y,z. I'm just gonna sit back and shrug it off, comfortable in my knowledge of what's really the case.
 
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terrapin said:
here is a link to NPR's Ira Flatow doing what every single person who claims to be scientifically minded and grounded should be doing. giving the evidence a fair crack and a fair hearing. Jeff Meldrum is interviewed here. this should be an example for all the priests of the new religion called scientism. notice there is no mocking or slandering or lying involved.


and here is an expert from that segment where jane goodall says she is absolutely convinced that they are real. you know the woman how bucked scientific consensus and made NEW discoveries!!

Ms. JANE GOODALL (Scientist, Cambridge University): Well now you will be amazed when I tell you that I'm sure that they exist.

FLATOW: You are.

Ms. GOODALL: Yeah.

FLATOW: Did you always have this belief that they're, that they existed?

Ms. GOODALL: Well, I'm a romantic so I always wanted that.

FLATOW: And there you have it. I mean I was shocked as anybody sitting here in this room…

Dr. MELDRUM: Right.

FLATOW: …talking to her about - and she just came out with this. And she does endorse on the cover of your book.

Dr. MELDRUM: Well exactly. And, you know, she revealed a couple of levels of engagement in this subject. As she mentioned, she's a romantic. Without question the topic has that side to it because, you know, the prospect of an unknown persisting into this century right here in our own back yard - I mean it does appeal to those who hope that they're still our frontiers of exploration and so forth.

But she did go on and comment the reasons for that conviction. And it was because she had talked with many people who had had experiences. She was - some of those were Native Americans who shared their traditional knowledge and their own contemporary experiences with these creatures according to their experiences.


And so, I mean that's where the science begins to enter in, I think, is where we get beyond just the stories or the romance of the subject and pose that simple biological question, is there a species of primate behind the legends of Sasquatch.

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Goodall, the world's foremost expert on Chimpanzee behavior, must be a stupid CTer, that's the only possible conclusion!

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Siver! said:
You silly goose.

If it's not real or doesn't exist, it's because its kept "hush hush" for literally no profitable reason at all.
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How is real estate, national parks and services (BILLIONS of dollars annually), logging and forestry, etc. not profitable industry?

You guys just need to think more, seriously.

You have no right to dismiss a phenomena with such terrible arguments.
 
BearGrounds said:
How is real estate, national parks and services (BILLIONS of dollars annually), logging and forestry, etc. not profitable industry?

You guys just need to think more, seriously.

You have no right to dismiss a phenomena with such terrible arguments.
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Bears exist.

Are they a threat to any of those industries just because someone photographed them?

(The answer is no)
 
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