Rampage’s son beats a wrestler into a coma! At in indie wrestling event!

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The latter. Although the timeline might put him away anyway. There's no doubt Stu was appearing threatening and wanted to start something. They will not look kindly on that, and that org is embarassed.
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When there's literal video footage of Stu apologizing and Raja accepting said apology before he tried to murder him, there is no way someone with a functioning brain can accept that bullshit
 
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The latter. Although the timeline might put him away anyway. There's no doubt Stu was appearing threatening and wanted to start something. They will not look kindly on that, and that org is embarassed.
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lol dude... "Stu was threatening and wanting to start something" is not a legal defense. Do you understand how the law works?

Firstly, this was meant to be a scripted event, and the organizers have admitted as much:
abc7.com

Ex-UFC champ Rampage Jackson speaks out after son appears to assault pro wrestler in Sun Valley

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson has apologized and said that he is "very upset" after his son allegedly committed what organizers called "a selfish, irresponsible act of violence."
abc7.com abc7.com

However, you are still required to stick with the script and the confines of your instructions. I'm absolutely sure they didn't tell Raja to slam him so hard you knock him out, and then beat him half to death while he's unconscious. The moment Raja went off script, it became assault. That's how the law works.

The only thing that will potentially save Raja is if the dude that was attacked decides not to press charges.
 
Intermission said:
The latter. Although the timeline might put him away anyway. There's no doubt Stu was appearing threatening and wanted to start something. They will not look kindly on that, and that org is embarassed.
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They are literally on video talking after and Stu is saying it was part of the show and apologizing for doing it and not knowing Raj was down for the bit. And Raj seems pacified and nothing happens.

You aren't making sense. How would Raj "feel threatened" by hours later entering the ring, slamming Stu as agreed to as part of the show (although doing it with intent to hurt him vs the typical fake pro wrestling slams) and then beating him unconscious and CONTINUING to beat him after he's out cold?

There's some sort of weird detachment from reality with some of you. I don't get it.
 
dogsdonutsdragons said:
dont hit people idc prop can fake glass. have you been hit in the head like that. here let me smack your head but ill hold a prop can so it doesnt hurt. make sure youve been recently concussed too. get the point?


also watch allthe footage back. notice the ref doesnt even react. notice his friend isnt in there either. they baited it. let it happen. free raja. grow up if you think he was wrong. go hit people and act like you dont deserve worse back
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All that finger movement to still be wrong.

You don’t get to pummel someone in the face for a misunderstanding.
 
Alpha_T83 said:
lol dude... "Stu was threatening and wanting to start something" is not a legal defense. Do you understand how the law works?

Firstly, this was meant to be a scripted event, and the organizers have admitted as much:
abc7.com

Ex-UFC champ Rampage Jackson speaks out after son appears to assault pro wrestler in Sun Valley

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson has apologized and said that he is "very upset" after his son allegedly committed what organizers called "a selfish, irresponsible act of violence."
abc7.com abc7.com

However, you are still required to stick with the script and the confines of your instructions. I'm absolutely sure they didn't tell Raja to slam him so hard you knock him out, and then beat him half to death while he's unconscious. The moment Raja went off script, it became assault. That's how the law works.

The only thing that will potentially save Raja is if the dude that was attacked decides not to press charges.
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Rajas wrestling buddy told him to hit him for real and he took that as kill the guy.
 
mkess101 said:
They are literally on video talking after and Stu is saying it was part of the show and apologizing for doing it and not knowing Raj was down for the bit. And Raj seems pacified and nothing happens.

You aren't making sense. How would Raj "feel threatened" by hours later entering the ring, slamming Stu as agreed to as part of the show (although doing it with intent to hurt him vs the typical fake pro wrestling slams) and then beating him unconscious and CONTINUING to beat him after he's out cold?

There's some sort of weird detachment from reality with some of you. I don't get it.
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I'm convinced some of the people defending him haven't watched the video. It's the only explanation.
 
You guys think Rampage will keep streaming?

I mean, I don't know how you could see all the footage from the documentary about attempted murder that he didnt even realize he was making it at the time.
That's already an irony so fucking twisted its hard to put in perspective. Even snuff films usually have a lead star in place before shooting starts

Now add in the fact that the attempted murder in question was a direct result of his subscribers calling him a pussy and trolling him to the point that he calmly and clearly explained his diabolical plan to intentionally go overboard as much as possible before they could grab him...

To prove to them he is definitely not a pussy.
 
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mkess101 said:
They are literally on video talking after and Stu is saying it was part of the show and apologizing for doing it and not knowing Raj was down for the bit. And Raj seems pacified and nothing happens.

You aren't making sense. How would Raj "feel threatened" by hours later entering the ring, slamming Stu as agreed to as part of the show (although doing it with intent to hurt him vs the typical fake pro wrestling slams) and then beating him unconscious and CONTINUING to beat him after he's out cold?

There's some sort of weird detachment from reality with some of you. I don't get it.
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Why would he assume Raj was part of the show? The show wasn't on either .
 
Hellowhosthat said:
It's not the territory days. Most indy wrestlers these days have never had a real fight and never had to protect the business like they used to back in the day. This is like a trained fighter wailing on a dude in an office or something, they have clearly never been in that situation before and didn't have a clue what to do.
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i understand what you're saying and i also think a tech startup office full of matcha-drinking hipsters would have intervened quicker. hell, they'd at least have a security guard on site. i have no idea why you're acting like what i'm saying is unreasonable. why is there absolutely no failsafe for a situation like that in 2025? again, drunk marks at indie shows do dumb shit all the time.
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
i understand what you're saying and i also think a tech startup office full of matcha-drinking hipsters would have intervened quicker. hell, they'd at least have a security guard on site. i have no idea why you're acting like what i'm saying is unreasonable. why is there absolutely no failsafe for a situation like that?
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It's not unreasonable it's just not how modern wrestling operates. At that level they're basically playing around with their friends and the general understanding is that anyone who attends that level of show is going to be smart to the business.
 
Obviously he opens up with "I know this kid he's always been so respectful bla bla bla" you already know whats happening


I made it to 2:17.
"Didn't appear he had lost his temper"

?????
 
Hellowhosthat said:
It's not unreasonable it's just not how modern wrestling operates. At that level they're basically playing around with their friends and the general understanding is that anyone who attends that level of show is going to be smart to the business.
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Could be racial tensions too. Not the only factor but one of several that lead to this disaster. Whether this exists in reality or not isn't important, it's how Raj perceives it in his own brain.
 
Intermission said:
Why would he assume Raj was part of the show? The show wasn't on either .
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There were people there. It's obvious he was trying to make it part of the show. He literally asks Raj in a lower voice "are you gonna sell it?"

And again, he apologizes after and Raj seems to accept it (or at least seems willing to move past it).

You better do some soul searching if you think trying to beat an unsuspecting man to death is okay.
 
Intermission said:
The latter. Although the timeline might put him away anyway. There's no doubt Stu was appearing threatening and wanted to start something. They will not look kindly on that, and that org is embarassed.
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See my last post^
It's a unique example of an open and shut case lol
Rampage and Raja would probably even tell you the odds of that interaction somehow justifying everything that happened afterwards are probably 0.0000

"I think you'll be surprised, I really do."
 
The Bloody Nine said:
Dave Meltzer, revered wrestling journalist and founder of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, said that Jackson’s attack “may be the worst thing I’ve ever seen in a ring”.


Guess Dave doesn't understand the incredible complexities of pro wrestling.
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And that's coming from a guy who's literally watched more wrestling than anyone else on the planet.
 
Intermission said:
Could be racial tensions too. Not the only factor but one of several that lead to this disaster. Whether this exists in reality or not isn't important, it's how Raj perceives it in his own brain.
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It's only important how he "percieves" it? So if you say "excuse me" at the grocery store to someone and he takes offense and beats you to death because he "perceived" it as you disrespecting him...that's what matters? His perception of how you spoke to him?

How do you function in society, seriously?
 
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