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Because when you go that high up it is definitive that they pay a gigantic portion of taxes, even with their ability to bamboozle their way into not paying their fair share. One of the links I provided highlights that even with them not paying their fair share (which again they do not, not even close) their overall payment of taxes is higher than thousands of me and you level guys, and significantly higher than even the standard rich individual. This should be acknowledged since we do need their tax dollars to survive.
The point wasn't to say that "since they pay more leave them alone". It was to say that since they are contributing the most regardless, we need to be careful about how we increase their taxes. They aren't super rich by having the morality of Mother Teresa. You don't want other countries to look more appealing to them and those millions and millions they contribute turn into a zeros. It can have a roller coaster effect, like we've seen to other countries in the past so we need to be delicate about it.
So I understand the tax and tax differences and am all for raising their taxes, some types even higher than others (think long term capital gains tax rates for example), but I also understand it well enough to know that blanket statements like "tax them 70%" can have disastrous consequences.
Not sure where you stand on the position but me know if that makes more sense where I'm coming from.
I didn't mean to nit-pick you, and I understand where you are coming from - all valid concerns. My position on the above is that they already move as much wealth/income off-shore as they can. As far as them changing either their residency or business operations to a country with lower rates, I'm on the fence, because it is primarily the US framework that has allowed them to earn what they are earning, ie., do they want to move to Mexico and drop revenue significantly while paying less in tax (and also being forced to reside in a 3rd world country), or do they continue with 1st world accommodations and pay higher tax?
As others have mentioned, and a significant point that I'm sure is not lost on you, is that when people throw out the 70% number, nobody is going to pay that much effectively - just like when people rail about corporate taxes being too high - no corporation actually pays 35%.
Thanks for keeping things civil though. Are you a CPA? I'm not directly involved in the tax business, but my mother has had her own tax prep/accounting practice for many years, so I've absorbed a lot of this stuff over the years, enough to get me in trouble anyways.


