We're using the same definition of conversation. My point was that right wing media is arming their listeners with fabrications. And those listeners then bring those fabrications to the conversation. They believe that they are responding to the legitimate points and concerns of someone else but they don't realize the extent to which their responses diverge from reality.
When you look at the conversations on a Twitter or a Twitch, you're looking at the end stage of the process, not the beginning. Prior to those "conversations", people had dozens if not hundreds of conversations within echo chambers. And that is where they crystallize the positions they bring to the public conversation.
Let's take the WR for a microcosm of this. Many of the stories on the front page are stories that the posters heard elsewhere, discussed elsewhere, formed an opinion on elsewhere and then come here to argue the validity of the point that they concluded elsewhere. If they formed that opinion in a place that reinforced fantastical ideas then they're not going to change it just because they're discussing it on this social media platform. They're going to double down because their first conversation was with people who told them they were right.
We're the end stage of the conversation. It's the initial point that requires significant examination and that's where you find people consuming Alex Jones rants and treating them like valid news/news opinion, instead of the generic entertainment that it is.
You completely misunderstood what I said. I said that people need to accept when they hold the minority position. They don't have to conform to the majority but they should not pretend that they're part of the majority when they're not.
For example - I think people should not place as much emphasis on the equity of their primary residence because it's not real value (for a variety of reasons that are irrelevant to this thread). However, I know that my position is a minority position. Most people don't agree me. I can accept that. I don't and should not pretend that my position is the majority position. Even if I think I'm right, society does not agree with me. So I shouldn't be surprised when society moves in a different direction than I would. That is not a problem with society. That is the inevitability of holding the minority position on societal level issues.
The "how" is being done properly.
Another example: Creationism is now the minority position so we don't teach it in public schools. We don't give it a chapter in the science books. It has been silenced. People who want to teach Creationism can still do it, they can home school, they can send their kids to schools that teach that minority position.
What they don't get to do is force the majority to give their minority position a platform of equal standing to the majority position. If they want that, they'll have to convince enough people to change positions so that they become the new majority position.
You don't prove them wrong by silencing them. You relegate them to irrelevancy by doing so. If they're not going to adopt your position and you're not going to adopt theirs, that's cool. But you don't have to elevate their positions to a level that they don't warrant either.
They can do what the Creationists do and find another space to promote their opinions.
