Social Qanon Megathread V1

Ophydian said:
Just when you thought Lyin Tucker Carlson couldn't reach any lower. He's now stating that Qanon doesn't exist because "we spent all day trying to find it" and "it's not even a website".

He goes on to say that people shouldn't tell you what to think and if they do, you are a slave. Does anyone see the issue with that statement? Here is a guy, lying to you and saying not to believe the truth because then you are a slave while telling you to believe him, a guy who had to state in court that his show is not credible. This is the same thing Lyin Donald Trump said to his followers. That only Trump should be believed. How did that turn out? Apparently, when you believe a liar, you get lied to.

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Damien Karras said:
Qanon is a popular conspiracy theory in which adherents believe there is a person, Q, with close ties to Washington and had been leaking government secrets on the 8Chan subforum.
Several people have flocked to this subforum with the belief that this Q person is authentic, and that the messages he is sending are codified. Then what happens is these adherents attempt to collectively make sense of these codes. They attribute meaning and while some have tried to coordinate small scale action, it largely fails due to a lack of structure and chain of command. However it doesn't stop some individuals from potentially responding or acting in the belief of what has been purported on these forums. This is a big part of what happened on January 6th. A lot of Trump supporters and Qanon adherents came to Washington at the behest of Trump, were already primed into believing all of the nonsense spewed by Q and "decoded" by some adherents, and nudged into action by Trump to take to Capitol and "reclaim" their country.

Qanon is more of a highly recognized incidence of mass manipulation, a social phenomena of sorts.
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Except it isn't any of those things because the content of the conspiracy theory is internet political fan fiction

It's a troll gimmick from 4chan/8chan, period
 
M3t4tr0n said:
Not the same as saying antifa doesn't exist, brah. Also why do you guys keep deflecting away from Tucker saying Qnon doesn't exist? Are you guys trying to derail with a help of a mod even?
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Easy. Tucker is a mildly entertaining (at times) political entertainer. There's no need to discredit him. Especially when he says something stupid.
 
Social Distance Warrior said:
**like
and I agree with this description 100 %
especially your last sentence.

I often compare it to what NASA would be like, if Flat Earth ideology and flat earthers infiltrated their ranks...

Qanon, is an internet phenomenon but potentially with more dangerous results.
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Hmmm... I get what you're saying. The thing is NASA is an organization with a clearly stated goal, leadership structure and chain of command.
Qanon would be like a flath earth convention; likeminded folk largely discredited by mainstream society who get together to reinforce each other's belief structures and reinforce the belief that "everyone else has it wrong"
 
tonni said:
@Seano this is better than my post.
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Meh, sounds like a boogeyman to me. What actions of theirs would you say are the most egregious? I swear to you I'm not feigning ignorance, I truly don't know what they do.
 
irish_thug said:
Easy. Tucker is a mildly entertaining (at times) political entertainer. There's no need to discredit him. Especially when he says something stupid.
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Too many people believe what he says. Either way seems like just an excuse for you to derail and over look the rightwingers in here derailing while you delete other people's posts that are "not on topic".
 
HereticBD said:
Brought to you by the fine folks at "ANTIFA Is An Idea", and "BLM Is Not An Organization".
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Qanon is similar to BLM and antifa in that all three are a product of free-floating ideas whose adherents belong to no single, hierarchical organization.

This might be the only time one of your shitposting outbursts actually aligned with truth and helped to make a meaningful point. Congratulations!
 
Damien Karras said:
Hmmm... I get what you're saying. The thing is NASA is an organization with a clearly stated goal, leadership structure and chain of command.
Qanon would be like a flath earth convention; likeminded folk largely discredited by mainstream society who get together to reinforce each other's belief structures and reinforce the belief that "everyone else has it wrong"
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my apologies...

I need to clarify what I meant...I meant that Qanon is potentially more dangerous than other "internet phenomenon" becuase we are getting people to act on their beliefs.

like if Flat Earthers decided to sabotage certain NASA missions to prove the Earth is flat.
 
tonni said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Incidents
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thanks for the effort but still seems like a boogeyman. Looks like stringing a bunch of crazy events together and blaming them on some faceless entity. A lot of them seem to be just people who "referenced a hash tag" or were a member of a facebook group.
Again, I'm no expert on it, nor am I claiming to be but I'm just not seeing a lot that tells me its some organized group of people led by Q. I'm not making less of the events on the wiki page either. Just saying.
 
Question for the democrats on this forum, have you ever noticed that you've never met a conservative that belies Qanon or admits to being a part of their group? Has it ever occurred to you that Qanon might just be a handful of lunatics, and the mainstream media has blown it out of proportion to make you fear and distrust conservatives?
 
Seano said:
thanks for the effort but still seems like a boogeyman. Looks like stringing a bunch of crazy events together and blaming them on some faceless entity. A lot of them seem to be just people who "referenced a hash tag" or were a member of a facebook group.
Again, I'm no expert on it, nor am I claiming to be but I'm just not seeing a lot that tells me its some organized group of people led by Q. I'm not making less of the events on the wiki page either. Just saying.
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You're talking to people who say all the violence and destruction over the summer during the BLM riots, were not in fact caused by BLM.

You'll notice they have a hard time staying consistent on these issues.
 
Social Distance Warrior said:
my apologies...

I need to clarify what I meant...I meant that Qanon is potentially more dangerous than other "internet phenomenon" becuase we are getting people to act on their beliefs.

like if Flat Earthers decided to sabotage certain NASA missions to prove the Earth is flat.
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Really?
BLM isn't even a fringe internet phenomenon. It's mainstream and it's batshit. How many people fallen into hysteria that there are police deaths squads killing black people and acted upon it? How many will die because they are so scared they will not comply?

If you believe qanon you are already crazy. BLM can radicalize and did, much more americans.
 
JDavis said:
Except it isn't any of those things because the content of the conspiracy theory is internet political fan fiction

It's a troll gimmick from 4chan/8chan, period
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it doesn't matter whether the original poster(s) acting in the name of Q meant to troll everyone or steer them into an insane fictional rabbit hole.

It absolutely is fan fiction, but it doesn't stop some people from completely buying into it. They first attribute credibility to the messenger (Q) then others chime in and reinforce the belief that this messenger is a sort of prophet. Once the issue of credibility has been negotiated and agreed upon, the poster is then able to lay out a message that enables others to formulate a sort of logic structure but it is entirely based in faulty reasoning. So when you build a logic structure on faulty reasoning, you end up disconnected from reality without knowing it. We ALL do it to some extent, me included. The trick is to know when your logic structure is predicated on faulty reasoning, and priming yourself to change your knowledge structure out with a new one. Easier said than done. But most of us are still able to navigate through life with some semblance of being grounded into reality. These Q adherents believe in something so grotesque pertaining to some of our most pervasive institutions. Sadly, it has garnered enough of a following and it has infiltrated the minds to some at such a level that a few were pushed toward extreme action. The pizzagate incident was the first example of this. The January 6th insurrection of Capitol Hill was another. I'm not saying everyone of them in Capitol were Q adherents, but some definitely were.
Also, I'm sure that if you take two Q adherents and sat them down for an exhaustive interview to question their beliefs, you wouldn't get two exactly similar sets of answers. Instead, you would get overarching themes and similar cognitive underpinnings to a point where they feel connected to the same cause but have interpreted reality in their own way.
 
Seano said:
thanks for the effort but still seems like a boogeyman. Looks like stringing a bunch of crazy events together and blaming them on some faceless entity. A lot of them seem to be just people who "referenced a hash tag" or were a member of a facebook group.
Again, I'm no expert on it, nor am I claiming to be but I'm just not seeing a lot that tells me its some organized group of people led by Q. I'm not making less of the events on the wiki page either. Just saying.
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I understand, don't worry. I'm not scared of Q-anon members but I wouldn't be surprised more violence will occur. The problem is that q-anon CT's spill over into regular meme/internet culture.
 
maq22 said:
Really?
BLM isn't even a fringe internet phenomenon. It's mainstream and it's batshit. How many people acted on hysteria that there are police deaths squads killing black people and acted upon it? How many will die because they are so scared they will not comply?

If you believe qanon you are already crazy. BLM can radicalize and did, much more americans.
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dude, I'm no fan of BLM and Antifa, and believe/know they are far more dangerous and responsible for more carnage, assault and murder then Qanon folk.
 
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