Social Qanon Megathread V1

How do you think Qanaon came to be?

hiya Sketch,

the same way the Tea Party came to be.

the same way the Oathkeepers came to be.

the same way the Freedom Caucus came to be.

that's how Qanon came to be.

its a collection of rightwing citizens here in the US that float from cause to cause...the thing that unites them is an unholy fear of Democrats; none of it is really policy related, lol.

the other facet of these groups share is that they are bound by exciting conspiracies.

*muses*

there's always going to be wingnuts who can't grasp reality, my friend. those folks are going to find implausible conspiracies very attractive - because the world is a complicated place.

its beyond their understanding.

- IGIT
 
Not at all true.

Qanon is a amalgamation of other CTs pushed together through social-media algorithms being exploited. That's a reason for the "big tech censorship" that everyone is freaking out about. They can't control their shitty algorithm.

But making the spreading of absolute BS is harder to spread is a way to control the spread. Almost like the a digital version of the social-distancing that the same idiots don't believe in.
Correct. The proliferation of QAnon and other conspiracy theories/ disinformation cults are not products of "free speech" on the net. They are a product of people's attention spans being commodified and sold to advertisers by the most effective (and amoral) means available.
 
I understand that every younger generation blames the one before (shout to Mike and the Mechanics) and every older generation thinks the younger generation is just the worst. But I think it's reasonable to say that the Baby Boomers, as a whole, are the most destructive generation of Americans. Gen-X and Millennials have an awful lot of catching up to do to even come close. All the whining that they do about Millennials is actually sort of comical, and seems to come from bitterness and projection. A lot of the things they whine about, regarding other generations, are actually traits that they exemplify as much as anybody.

Baby boomers are the worst people on the planet.
 
Correct. The proliferation of QAnon and other conspiracy theories/ disinformation cults are not products of "free speech" on the net. They are a product of people's attention spans being commodified and sold to advertisers by the most effective (and amoral) means available.

Do you think there is any other elements at play?
 

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I never knew what QAnon was until I came to Sherdog. Amazing how there's a part of the Republican party that even I didn't know about. Pretty embarrassing.
 
is that all that has cause Q?

I appreciate the response

What helps is that they start off with half truths before they go full on into insane conspiracy.

The government is corrupt and in the pocket of corporations - this is pretty obvious, lobbying deregulation made sure of that. However QAnon takes that premise and turns it into the deep state.

There are :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes and predators in positions of power in Hollywood. Epstein and Weinstein are examples of that. QAnon takes that premise and turns it into the Democrats and Hollywood are a Satan worshipping cult of :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia.

Trump used some of these same half truths to rise to power. He called out the elites, he talked about draining the swamp. What he left out is that he is also part of that swamp and doesn't give a shit about people. But the QAnon folks turned him into their savior. People who do not trust the government and hate liberals are more susceptible to falling into the cult. You've even got spiritual hippy types with left wing beliefs falling into the cult.
 
I know you're not the brightest, Bobby. You're also not the dumbest. You know exactly why what you did was disingenuous and was in bad faith to the topic at hand. Just because it's in the Right-Wing Hack playbook doesn't mean you HAVE to use it.


Concession accepted.


There are a lot of loony right wing conspiracy's. That particular one is closer to the truth than anyone wants to admit.
 
Radical moms are the biggest freaks in the bedroom

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The part about her thinking she was gonna have to remove her daughter from school because China, and not watching the news because "fake news" (yet spends hours on tiktok, youtube, Facebook, reading about QAnon) got me all
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Schools are dumb and are a weird way of having public daycare. I can see homeschooling, but her rational is going at it from the wrong way
 
It is not a conspiracy to believe the election was rigged.

Many outsiders believe it was. Trump still does

You calling the former President a liar?
This is... A lot to unpack.

Has anyone here ever been to the Qanon casualties subreddit? It's usually from family members and loved ones talking about how someone they love has joined the cult and needing advice, or a place to vent. Its fucking fascinating.

https://www.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

On the other side I remember being on Parlerwatch and other subreddits where people screenshot posts and share them and it was almost sad, a lot of people truly believed that on inauguration day Trump was going to show up and have everyone arrested for war crimes and executed, all sorts of crazy shit.

Then those people were mad that they felt duped, and often they brought up the fact that their friends or family won't talk to them anymore or that their wife left them, their kids won't speak to them.

It's a really fascinating modern cult.
 
She was stunned by Biden's inauguration. How this South Carolina mom escaped QAnon

Ashley Vanderbilt says her four-year-old daughter Emmerson knew "something was wrong with her mom."
"I wasn't one hundred percent there like I should have been," she recalls.
After November's election she spent days on TikTok, Facebook, and YouTube becoming indoctrinated into the world of QAnon. By inauguration day, she was convinced that if then President-elect Joe Biden took office the United States would literally turn into a communist country. She was terrified that she would have to go into hiding with her daughter.
Many QAnon believers have clear political motives, but Vanderbilt says she is a passive participant in politics.
"I've always been someone that you just tell me what to do and I do it. I grew up being told we were Republicans, so I've always been that straight red ticket," she explained in an interview with CNN near her home in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, last Saturday.
She doesn't watch the news. "What have we heard the last four or five years? Don't watch the news. 'Fake news.' 'Fake news.'"
Vanderbilt worked in the office of a construction company. But, like millions of Americans in 2020, she says she lost her job at the start of the Covid-19 lockdown. Feeling depressed and with more time on her hands, she began spending a lot of time online.
The 27-year-old mom is an avid user of the video app TikTok. It's there, she says, that she was first introduced to QAnon.

She mostly followed entertainment accounts on the platform, but as the election neared she began interacting with pro-Trump and anti-Biden TikTok videos. Soon, she says, TikTok's "For You" page, an algorithmically determined feed in the app that suggests videos a user might like, was showing her video after video of conspiracy theories.
A spokesperson for TikTok told CNN the company is "committed to countering misinformation and advancing media literacy in our community. Content and accounts promoting QAnon aren't allowed on our platform and are removed as identified."
Clearly the company's safeguards failed Vanderbilt.
What began on TikTok, continued on Facebook, YouTube, and Telegram, where by January Vanderbilt says she was spending hours every night learning more about the supposed cabal of :eek::eek::eek::eek:philes in the Democratic Party that had stolen the election.
But all was not lost.
She believed that even though Biden was declared the winner of the election, his inauguration would be thwarted.
First, Trump would declare martial law, then the Democrats (and some Republicans) and the Hollywood celebrities in Washington, DC for the inauguration would be rounded up and arrested. Trump had "opened back up Guantanamo Bay" (it never closed) and "increased the capacity to 200,000."
That was the conspiracy theory being pushed by QAnon followers on the eve of the inauguration, and it is what Vanderbilt believed.
But on the morning of January 20th, 2021, Trump flew out of Washington to his new home in Florida and Biden became the 46th President of the United States.
"I was devastated," Vanderbilt recalls. "Instantly, I went into panic mode."
She called her mom who was at work. "I just told her it's like we're all going to die. We're going to be owned by China. And I was like, I might have to pull my daughter out of school because they're going to take her."
Her mom tried to calm her down. "Obviously God's will was to have President Biden come in for this country, so it's going to be fine," Vanderbilt says her mom told her. "This happens all the time. It's an election. Parties switch, no big deal."
After their call she said her mom texted her a warning to not take her daughter out of school.
A key tenet of QAnon is that there is a master plan at work and Trump is in charge. "The plan" said he would round-up the so-called deep state and bring them to justice. "The plan" said he would win the 2020 election in a landslide. When this didn't happen, QAnon supporters began spinning absurd predictions that Trump would somehow halt Biden's inauguration in the days or hours leading up to it.
None of that happened. But like in many cults, the lore and predictions in QAnon are ever-changing. Each time a prophecy fails to come to fruition, a new theory crops up to fill the void.
And so some QAnon adherents concocted a new conspiracy theory in the hours after inauguration. President Joe Biden's inauguration itself was a key part of the plan, the new theory held, and Trump would return as President in the coming few weeks. Then, certainly, all the deep-state arrests would happen.
That was a step too far for Vanderbilt. She began to realize that she had bought into a lie with an almost religious fervor. Over the past two weeks she has been posting on TikTok, the platform that dragged her into the conspiracy theory, sharing her story in the hope that it might help or inspire others to see the light.
Vanderbilt credits her faith in God for helping her out of QAnon. While she was deep in the conspiracy theory, she said that Trump was becoming an almost messianic figure for her who could do no wrong. She recalls once asking herself, "Am I putting even Trump above God?"
Vanderbilt reflects that she could perhaps have been pulled out of QAnon before inauguration day if Trump himself condemned it. Instead, he flirted with it and tacitly embraced it by retweeting prominent QAnon accounts and saying positive things about QAnon followers.
Instead, she had a revelation of her own.
She was able to do something that many people, including some elected representatives and a few members of the Republican Party, are not. She has admitted she was wrong and has condemned QAnon as a dangerous political movement.
On the national stage, Vanderbilt hopes her story will help others.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/03/tech/qanon-mom-former-believer/index.html

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First of all, my heart goes out to this woman. She's obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed, but she seems like a person trying to live a solid life.

I wonder, though, how many millions of people are there like her in the country right now? Maybe they are not full on QAnon, but they believe some kind of combination of conspiracy theories involving (take your pick): :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia, global elites, liberalism, vaccines, technology, the US deep state, shootings as hoaxes, the "Great Reset," etc., and pretty soon this all merges into one vague "conspiracy gestalt."

I think I am going to coin that term "conspiracy gestalt."

In my estimation, it probably describes at least 30-40% of the political views in this country... and it is cross-generational, nothing that is going to die off with the boomers.

Final point, I had trouble responding to the thread asking: which side is morally superior, because I don't trust my ability to decode the deep motivations of people I don't know. I will assert one comparison though: while Democrats and Republicans doubtlessly both have many stupid voters, on the Republican side the dumbest also see to be the most politically engaged.

This is one of the several basic differences in the parties right now. And it is probably the most important.
lol mum was radicalised because she was a stupid bitch.
 
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