PS5 announced for 2020 Holiday Season

[Madmick]

Do we know if our PS4 digital libraries will transfer over to PS5? I don’t buy discs anymore, just digital games. Hopefully it doesn’t bite me in the ass.

Don't see why it shouldn't with the backwards compatibility , hopefully some more news on that comes after the new year

There's not going to be backwards compatibility. It will be partial at best.
PS5 might not be fully backward compatible with the PlayStation 4

Several months ago, when Sony detailed some of the PS5’s main features, we learned the new console will be fully backward compatible with the PS4.

But Sony’s newest statements suggest that might not be the case.

Speaking to Famitsu (via MobileSyrup), Sony wasn’t able to confirm full compatibility at this time

Of course there won't be. Everything is about "services" now, and backwards compatibility would annihilate their Playstation Now service.

 

[GtehMVP]

There's not going to be backwards compatibility. It will be partial at best.
PS5 might not be fully backward compatible with the PlayStation 4

Of course there won't be. Everything is about "services" now, and backwards compatibility would annihilate their Playstation Now service.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall at their board meetings, or have access to to their inner workings and see what they're wrestling with.

We're all ignorant of their business model, regardless, I think it would be a huge mistake if the PS5, at launch, didn't work with most PS4 games natively, and add extra base functionality (upscaling, faster load times etc..). I'd like to see publishers/devs allow better framerates too (I don't think that's something Sony could do without them putting some work in).

Backwards compatibility is always a bigger deal when a new system comes out. I'm dying to play Bloodborne at 60FPS, with better load times and a cleaner picture. It doesn't need a big remastering, and it shouldn't require me to buy it again.

Every multimedia machine we're used to buying now (pc's, laptops, tablets, phones) works with most of the apps/games we already own, and generally improves them in some form. We're talking hundreds of millions of consumers being accustomed to that now, not just the more niche pc gaming crowd from 10 years ago.

If Backwards compatibility isn't a thing, they better have a killer launch lineup.

 

[method115]

Didn't they already show Spiderman running backwards compatible? I wonder if the main issue is that Sony doesn't' want to get stuck patching a third party game that isn't working on PS5. That could end up being a lot of work with the library they have. There is a ton of obscure games out there.

 

[GtehMVP]

Didn't they already show Spiderman running backwards compatible? I wonder if the main issue is that Sony doesn't' want to get stuck patching a third party game that isn't working on PS5. That could end up being a lot of work with the library they have. There is a ton of obscure games out there.

I'm curious if it's a big ordeal for them. If they have straight up backwards compatibility, faster loading times shouldn't need any patchwork. It's basically a PS4 with an SSD?

Maybe there's more involved with better upscaling, anti aliasing, and anisotropic filtering , same for frame rate improvements, but load times should work right out of the box? Hopefully someone with actual knowledge on these kind of programing challenges can chime in, cause I'm talking out of my ass here lol

 

[method115]

cause I'm talking out of my ass here lol

and I'd be joining you if I even attempted to give you an answer.

 

[Deadwing88]

There's not going to be backwards compatibility. It will be partial at best.
PS5 might not be fully backward compatible with the PlayStation 4

Of course there won't be. Everything is about "services" now, and backwards compatibility would annihilate their Playstation Now service.

One advantage Scarlett will have over the PS5 if this comes to fruition.. full backwards compatibility with Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One titles..

 

[ArtemV]

I wonder how many PS4 games will be remastered for the PS5. Not against it if we get native 4k and a higher FPS, like God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn/Uncharted etc.

 

[SaiWa]

There's not going to be backwards compatibility. It will be partial at best.
PS5 might not be fully backward compatible with the PlayStation 4

Of course there won't be. Everything is about "services" now, and backwards compatibility would annihilate their Playstation Now service.

Partial meaning mostly backwards compatible. This will be a non-issue. Most of our games will be playable on PS5 from PS4.. you can bank on it...

 

[SaiWa]

I wonder how many PS4 games will be remastered for the PS5. Not against it if we get native 4k and a higher FPS, like God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn/Uncharted etc.

will it even be needed for these games that aren't even that old...?

i can see older games being remastered...

 

[Madmick]

Partial meaning mostly backwards compatible. This will be a non-issue. Most of our games will be playable on PS5 from PS4.. you can bank on it...

No, partial, meaning they won't guarantee full backwards PS4 compatibility, and we have no idea what the extent of it will be. They balked at their previous promise to support the PS4. They don't even want to talk about the PS3 or earlier, so older systems would seem to be out of the question.

Suddenly nobody cares about the PS3 or earlier? PS4 gamers this generation wore support of previous consoles as a feather in their hat in every console debate. To dismiss support of those now as a significant asset comes off as disingenuous.

 

[SaiWa]

No, partial, meaning they won't guarantee full backwards PS4 compatibility, and we have no idea what the extent of it will be. They balked at their previous promise to support the PS4. They don't even want to talk about the PS3 or earlier, so older systems would seem to be out of the question.

Suddenly nobody cares about the PS3 or earlier? PS4 gamers this generation wore support of previous consoles as a feather in their hat in every console debate. To dismiss support of those now as a significant asset comes off as disingenuous.

Last I checked they are working on backwards compatibility with all the previous console. The feature may not be fully operational on launch but I am sure they’ll deliver.

from what I recall the PS3 system was drastically different (core processing) from the other consoles and backwards compatibility was too difficult PS4. PS5 could emulate PS3 and older now though.

From the article it states they are working on full compatibility or PS4. Certain limitations may prevent certain games from working though (hence why it’s not full). Nowhere does it state they are working towards reneging on their promise. Full compatibility means every PS4 games but if a few don’t work then that’s okay to me.

 

[Madmick]

Last I checked they are working on backwards compatibility with all the previous console. The feature may not be fully operational on launch but I am sure they’ll deliver.

from what I recall the PS3 system was drastically different (core processing) from the other consoles and backwards compatibility was too difficult PS4. PS5 could emulate PS3 and older now though.

From the article it states they are working on full compatibility or PS4. Certain limitations may prevent certain games from working though (hence why it’s not full). Nowhere does it state they are working towards reneging on their promise. Full compatibility means every PS4 games but if a few don’t work then that’s okay to me.

The nature of the only concrete information we've received on backwards compatibility via filed patents is that they are developing a new emulation system for the PS5 which would appear to be consistent with the Playstation Now service's current compatibility implementation. Furthermore, the latest comments on compatibility have only admitted that it cannot be guaranteed to be "secured".

 

[OhBam]

Ah, the future of the console video game industry :

(aka 1983.)

 

[rikwebb]

Godfall announced for PS5 and Epic Store



Supposedly the trailer is all in engine, Unreal 4 engine. Looter Slasher thats playable co-op or solo, Holiday 2020

 

[rikwebb]

Interview with the Godfall Developer about the game and developing for PS5

https://www.playstationlifestyle.ne...ontroller-world-gameplay-keith-lee-interview/


Gif of the game from the article

 

[thehighking]

There's not going to be backwards compatibility. It will be partial at best.
PS5 might not be fully backward compatible with the PlayStation 4

Of course there won't be. Everything is about "services" now, and backwards compatibility would annihilate their Playstation Now service.

I guess I won't be buying it then. Lots of PS4 games I still haven't played yet anyway so I'll be good for another few years. Probably get a gaming PC instead when the time comes

 

[method115]

Looks like someone did some more digging on the backwards compatibility and I think my assumptions were right.

https://www.t3.com/news/sony-ps5-insider-helps-to-put-out-no-backwards-compatibility-fire

It looks like the issue isn't that they don't want to provide it but they are just having trouble getting it working 100% for all titles. The PS4 has a massive library with some very obscure games. Guaranteeing 100% backwards compatibility is not easy. It would be like me telling you that if you built a new PC all your games would work 100% without any issues. No one can guarantee that.

 

[I'm Shawn Spencer]

I just wanna be able to play Tony Hawk 2 on my PS5

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

Very impressive, i've even read that some industry insiders are saying the release of the new consoles could be the death knell for PC gaming. I hope not as i was planning to get a decent rig in a few months.

Quite the opposite. The closer consoles get to PCs, the easier and better it is for PCs. During the early 2000s, PC gaming was rough and felt like it was dying. Except for the exclusives, it was barren. When consoles started using PC architecture, companies ported games over to PC. This last generation has been a golden age for PC gaming. It pretty much gets every game outside of Sony and Nintendo exclusives and it's the definitive edition since you have more graphical options and more power to work with.

The trend will continue with the PS5. Microsoft also said that every Microsoft exclusive will also be on PC. Consoles are getting more powerful but they'll always be a step behind with PC because of cost and form factor.

 

[Hitman81]

There's so many great looking PS4 games coming out next year I feel like the PS5 is going to be a really hard sell. We will see what is unveiled at E3 but at this point I can't see them having a strong launch lineup with any killer IPs. Probably a bunch of upressed versions of PS4 games.

Microsoft will probably get out of the gate quicker because the XBOne line up has been so soft and many of their developers are already deep into production on next gen.