I think that quality matters more to others than to than to you. And I think that because quality matters so little to you, you conclude it really doesn't matter.
You didn't provide a sound rebuttal against it. So you are losing.
Why are you comparing them to someone working a 9-5 instead of other athletes tho? We don't compare average NBA players to like ups drivers. We compare them to other "average" athletes.
Lol the get a different job argument is always silly. They're highly successful in the sport they're in already. And the ufc is certainly making enough to pay them. They're paying them shit because they have no leverage. Same as anyone else that gets paid shit.
UFC should just provide fight camps, food, shelter and hire slave drivers (and hair transplants for the slave drivers) = better for the fans
This dude doesn't want to hear anything about ethics or morality lol. We live in a greedy capitalistic system that doesn't value people or accomplishment, other than as a resource to exploit. Just because everyone isn't out here celebrating it doesn't mean we're not smart enough to know what's going on.
The argument that the top guys bring in ticket sales/PPV sales is invalid. Look at WWE. the lowest end of their roster still make good money. We have UFC level fighters making the same money as pro wrestlers on the independent circuit. By the time a wrestler makes it to the WWE they make in this day and age $250k check out this article.
Nah just pay em enough to keep them out of trouble, off of meth, and in the ufc. Maintain the monopoly they already have. I'm fine with that, I think it's better for fans. But you won the war already, so pay these guys enough to eat. I see ufc fighters begging for money or talking about financial hardship more than I've EVER seen in pro sports.
How would they win freedom by fighting in MMA? I think you've got the wrong empire.
Hell if anything wwe has consistently shown how important roster depth is. They've almost always had a strong mid card. Those guys helped carry the company as part of the overall package when there were no big stars. And even when there were tons of big stars, those mid level guys just added to the overall value of the brand.
There is one colossal point you should understand and that is the difference between employee pay and contractor pay. Employees show up and everything they need to do their job is provided for them. If your view of fighter pay was accurate the UFC would be providing the fighters gyms, gear, coaches and sparring partners. They'd pay for any travel necessary to do their job. Most states also have laws that employers provide health insurance. In the real world it's called "overhead" and it means the company must tack on 50 to 100% easily on top of the check each employee gets. As contractors the fighters have to make a much higher wage for their time to compensate for all of those things. The undercard guys literally make less than some workers at gas stations and fast food chains once this difference is taken into account.
IMO the problem is in the roster size, it doesn't bring anything good.
Yeah the ufc loves playing both sides. Independent contractors when it comes to having to provide them with benefits. But when the ufc wants something they're definitely treated like employees.
Problem is, the things you say demonstrate that you DON'T understand it. It's all good though.
