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Andy Capp said:
LMAO @ hasn't made anything while in office, get real.

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Trump D.C. hotel receipts show $10,500 rooms for foreign officials seeking to influence U.S.

Bills for the Malaysian, Saudi, UAE and Qatari governments show lavish spending at the hotel in 2017 and 2018 during sensitive times for those countries’ relations with the U.S.
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Trump Organization charged Secret Service $1.4M to stay at his properties, committee says

The Trump Organization charged the Secret Service more than five times the government rate to stay at Trump-owned properties, documents obtained by Congress show
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The Trump Organization on some occasions charged the Secret Service more than five times the government rate to stay at Donald Trump-owned properties while the agency was protecting him and his family, according to documents obtained by Congress.

In total the Secret Service spent at least $1.4 million in tax dollars at Trump Organization hotels and other properties over 669 expenditures between January 2017 and September 2021, House Committee on Oversight and Reform Chair Carolyn Maloney wrote in a Monday letter to Kimberly Cheatle, the director of the Secret Service.

Maloney, D-N.Y., wrote in her letter to Cheatle that the Secret Service had provided only partial accounting of when its agents had stayed at Trump properties and how much the agents paid.

Some of the trips were while agents were accompanying Trump's children Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump and his daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, according to Maloney.

The oversight committee requested documents and details on the agency's Trump spending in 2020, citing "disturbing" news reports of "exorbitant charges" by the former president's properties.
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Crack baby was supposed to be setting him up but spent the money.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
This - OMG Trump will hire loyalists!!! - is a bizarre panic.
what do you think parties do when getting power? they hire their people, enable their policies, etc.

the idea that when the opposite side does is it EVIL is childish. some of you guys really are getting panic updates from the hive mind.
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The opposite side doesn’t have a plan to change the classification of tens of thousands of non political career federal jobs making them political appointees.
Trump already did that by executive order before he lost the last election and Biden reversed it immediately.
 
emefer said:
The opposite side doesn’t have a plan to change the classification of tens of thousands of non political career federal jobs making them political appointees.
Trump already did that by executive order before he lost the last election and Biden reversed it immediately.
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so what? next democrat president can reverse it, and so on.
 
Rob Battisti said:
It’s not about desire. It’s about capability
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Capability? Trump gave that to himself once before. He will do it again.

Weeks before the 2020 election, President Trump unveiled an executive order that would have created a new class of political appointee, Schedule F. The order would have allowed a president to turn any career official with a policy advisory role into a political appointee, removing job protection and opening the door to vastly politicize the federal workforce.

President Biden rescinded the order, but Trump has made it a central feature of his re-election campaign as part of his effort to take control of “the deep state.” It’s not just Trump. Schedule F has also been more broadly accepted among Republicans, featuring in the Mandate for Leadership guide that the Heritage Foundation produces for prospective Republican presidents.

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The risks of Schedule F for administrative capacity and government accountability | Brookings

Schedule F would lead to a reduction in administrative capacity, government performance, and accountability to the public and Congress.
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oldshadow said:
You can call him whatever your TDS brain forces you to if it's makes you feel better.
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It does make some of us feel better that ‘conservatives’ and the conservative movement is not at all based on smaller government, less government spending, less executive branch authority, etc. which they claimed for years to be about
 
Fox by the Sea said:
This - OMG Trump will hire loyalists!!! - is a bizarre panic.
what do you think parties do when getting power? they hire their people, enable their policies, etc.

the idea that when the opposite side does is it EVIL is childish. some of you guys really are getting panic updates from the hive mind.
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There is a difference between hiring people who are politically aligned with you and hiring people who are willing to put you above law and the constitution.

Trump wants to do the latter part.
 
Helden said:
There is a difference between hiring people who are politically aligned with you and hiring people who are willing to put you above law and the constitution.

Trump wants to do the latter part.
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how would they put him above the law and constitution? which hires will do that?
 
Rob Battisti said:
What’s stopping him? You’re asking what is stopping the ability to hire FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE?

This is my field. The ability to hire that amount of people takes A. Thousands of people to do. B. Isn’t feasible to think you just can get ideological matches at that scale based on location C. You can’t just ask questions like “hey, are you willing to do whatever Trump says?”. D. You can’t just fire every employee at once and think you can replace them immediately.

It’s a pearl clutch due to it being a logistical impossibility.

My god use your brain.
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HR is also my gf’s field.

So, a few points. My letters will correspond to yours above.

A. You understand that they have that, right? Like, this isn’t some little Heritage Foundation project, this is a coalition of over 100 conservative organizations, with ties to political groups of various sorts, all throughout the country. It’s absolutely massive. Aside from that, let’s consider that the initial Executive Order was signed by Trump in Oct 2020, and Project 2025 has been in existence since April 2022. So, this is not something they are looking to start after the election. They have been working on these for potentially years already, several years. They’ve got a database you can submit your resume to if you’re interested ;) Man would I love to know how many names are in it.

B. & C. I’ll take these two together. So, you don’t need to ask that question, and you don’t need every single person to be ready to do every single thing Trump says on every issue, obviously. You just need them to support and be ready to implement key things and achieve key objectives within the employee’s zone of influence, however big or small. For those reasons, I think it is feasible to get the ideological matches you need at the scale they need it. Admin personnel in the Dept of Energy just have to be on board for what’s done in their sphere of influence, or the maybe the mission of the Dept of Energy more broadly. They don’t have to be on board about or do anything with what’s happening in the Dept of Education, Dept of HHS, or whatever.

D. This is important: At no point did I allege they’d fire 50K people on Day 1 and replace 50K people on Day 1. I never said any such thing. I acknowledge that the full scope of whatever they do there will take some time. In fact, the 50K number is an estimation of how many positions would become fireable under Trump’s EO. They do not need 50K new hires to implement Project 2025, and I’ve never claimed they did. But just speaking in terms of numbers, what if, instead of the usual 4000 fireable positions, they fire and replace 10,000? Or 15K, or 20K? Any of these numbers would still constitute a massive, massive power grab, and I don’t know why we’d assume that these people are putting together such a massive organizational framework and signing an executive order to make this possible if they weren’t at least going to attempt it.


The bottom line here is: when somebody or some group plans a massive, unconstitutional takeover of government, the correct response is to mobilize and stop the crazy motherfuckers. I don’t think that saying, “Meh, who cares? That’s a pretty big scope,I doubt they can do it” is a very appropriate response or viable strategy.
 
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