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1- No receipts there. I didn't defend @Loiosh. I thought the exchange was funny. I honestly don't know who's right.
1. I posted the evidence.
2- "You strongly implied it." Once again. Show me where. It should be easy.
"I'm not calling you a liar, but that doesn't mesh with what I hear him say so I need to see the context."

I get that he used apophasis there, but that's why I said "implied" rather than stated.
3- Where did I imply you made something up. I only said the article wasn't giving me the best arguments. How do we go from that to me saying you made something up? Please explain it to me.
Read the post you're responding to again.
 
You alluded to the myth. I provided evidence that the myth was false. Your response was to brush it off with no reason given. I have no idea what you get out of this stuff. Just taking out your rage at the world, I guess.
Sorry, but the rage is coming from you, not me. You keep talking about what I said while never quoting something specific. I wonder why.
 
Sorry, but the rage is coming from you, not me. You keep talking about what I said while never quoting something specific. I wonder why.
My dude, are you going to deny that you're one of the angriest posters here? You keep denying that you said what you said. I wonder why.
 
1. I posted the evidence.

"I'm not calling you a liar, but that doesn't mesh with what I hear him say so I need to see the context."

I get that he used apophasis there, but that's why I said "implied" rather than stated.

Read the post you're responding to again.
So no proofs. No evidence. No quotes. Just you rambling and assuming the worst.
 
So no proofs. No evidence. No quotes. Just you rambling and assuming the worst.
WTF are you talking about? I quoted him. And you didn't take my advice. Also, "rambling." That was a really short post. Did you get hit in the head recently?
 
My dude, are you going to deny that you're one of the angriest posters here? You keep denying that you said what you said. I wonder why.
Quote what I said in this thread that was an insult and implied you're a liar.

One of the angriest poster here: Zero doubt. Guilty. That being said, what did I say that sounded angry? Once again. Quotes. Proofs.

I asked you if you had other studies and you lost it for no reason. Read the whole exchange, dude. I'm the asshole 99% of the time in this type of exchange. This is the 1%.
 
WTF are you talking about? I quoted him. And you didn't take my advice. Also, "rambling." That was a really short post. Did you get hit in the head recently?
I asked you to quote me. Maybe you're the one who had a concussion falling from your high horse.
 
Quote what I said in this thread that was an insult and implied you're a liar.
I told you to re-read the post. You interpreted a response to Loiosh as a response to you. Also, you used the word "liar" ITT so WTF?
One of the angriest poster here: Zero doubt. Guilty. That being said, what did I say that sounded angry? Once again. Quotes. Proofs.

I asked you if you had other studies and you lost it for no reason. Read the whole exchange, dude. I'm the asshole 99% of the time in this type of exchange. This is the 1%.
I actually did link another piece on it. There's no "study" necessary here because it's reporting. The basis for the claim about Nixon doing better among radio listeners was one badly conducted, small poll. How does one even go about studying that other than to point out that the claim has no sound basis?
 
This is why if republicans would try to push a federal abortion law through congress that has somewhat reasonable limits (12-16 weeks or so) and reasonable exceptions (the mother's help, baby not viable etc.) then the democrats would just block it so they can keep abortion as a relevant issue during all of the upcoming election cycles.
People on the left actually believe that abortion is an important right, and if the outrage after the SC's decision didn't make that clear then nothing will. You are demonstrating that right-wing hacks don't believe that it's possible for people on the left to believe in a real issue.
 
Their role isn't to pass legislation, it's to recommend it. Does Mandate for Leadership ring a bell? That was the prime driver for decades of wealth disparity in America.

OK, so you support the current abortion laws. Most people don't.
A lot of people recommend legislation.

I was told not even millions upon millions of dollars can influence legislation so I doubt a recommendation can.

Also, is someone talking about me that’s on my ignore list? Some people can’t take a joke.
 
People on the left actually believe that abortion is an important right, and if the outrage after the SC's decision didn't make that clear then nothing will. You are demonstrating that right-wing hacks don't believe that it's possible for people on the left to believe in a real issue.

If they believe it's a real issue they should push for reasonable laws on a federal level, instead of just crying in outrage and using the issue as a campaign tool.

The last part of your post is confusing. You're pretending I'm a right-wing hack and implying I don't believe people on the left don't think it's a real issue. Both of those statement are incorrect, additionally I believe it's a real issue myself.
 
I was told not even millions upon millions of dollars can influence legislation so I doubt a recommendation can.
I'd recommend opening up to the idea that opinions and genuinely held convictions are more decisive than money, and by a lot too, in crucial contexts. Not believing that has become a signal to me of someone being a hack.
 
A lot of people recommend legislation.

I was told not even millions upon millions of dollars can influence legislation so I doubt a recommendation can.

Also, is someone talking about me that’s on my ignore list? Some people can’t take a joke.
It's not about Heritage bribing Republicans to follow their plan. They come up with the plan with the help of Trump people. Heritage has long worked with the GOP to come up with their agenda. Plus, you profess to believe the dumb bribery theory so it's interesting that you abandon it here (interesting in general how your principles and beliefs change whenever it is convenient for Republican messaging, actually).
 
If they believe it's a real issue they should push for reasonable laws on a federal level, instead of just crying in outrage and using the issue as a campaign tool.

The last part of your post is confusing. You're pretending I'm a right-wing hack and implying I don't believe people on the left don't think it's a real issue. Both of those statement are incorrect, additionally I believe it's a real issue myself.
Your assessment of abortion being a campaign tool for the left is incorrect. Evidently, there was an appreciated solution in the Roe/Wade decision that was dismantled. The outrage stems thereof, and is genuine.
 
This is why if republicans would try to push a federal abortion law through congress that has somewhat reasonable limits (12-16 weeks or so) and reasonable exceptions (the mother's help, baby not viable etc.) then the democrats would just block it so they can keep abortion as a relevant issue during all of the upcoming election cycles.
Bingo.

16 weeks seems reasonable. Democrats had every opportunity to codify Roe but didn’t.
 
Bingo.

16 weeks seems reasonable. Democrats had every opportunity to codify Roe but didn’t.
Why codify something that has already been codified? The idea was that the SC wouldn't arbitrarily dismantle previous decisions, and as long as they're willing to then laws basically don't exist. Good job on giving the Republican judges a pass on being directly evil, though. Blame the Democrats instead, sure.
 
Their role isn't to pass legislation, it's to recommend it. Does Mandate for Leadership ring a bell? That was the prime driver for decades of wealth disparity in America.

OK, so you support the current abortion laws. Most people don't.

A lot of people recommend legislation.

I was told not even millions upon millions of dollars can influence legislation so I doubt a recommendation can.

Also, is someone talking about me that’s on my ignore list? Some people can’t take a joke.
Respectfully to both of you, this is incorrect. Project 2025 is not about legislation, and it’s not about recommending legislation. People who thinking that it is, have their minds is the completely wrong framework and aren’t understanding what these people are trying to do.

Project 2025 is about accomplishing what we think of as their “legislative agenda,” without the need for legislation at all—by funneling unprecedented amounts of power to the executive branch to accomplish in a dictatorial fashion what previously would’ve been accomplished through legislation or judiciary. That’s why it’s dangerous.
 
I'd recommend opening up to the idea that opinions and genuinely held convictions are more decisive than money, and by a lot too, in crucial contexts. Not believing that has become a signal to me of someone being a hack.
So a bunch of ideas on a website is more influential than ideas backed by millions of dollars?
 
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