Elections Project 2025 major right wing groups plan on creating a new super super pack

[Jack V Savage]

Can someone show what these people are arguing for? I can only see the 992 page PDF on their website

These people = your party. This, rather than the gossip of the day or partisan smears, is what the election is actually about.

Here's a piece that summarizes a lot of it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/12/project-2025-summary-trump/

 

[Barteh]

Can someone show what these people are arguing for? I can only see the 992 page PDF on their website

It's 2024 bro, you can just have Claude or ChatGTP summarize it for you.

 

[Rob Battisti]

It's 2024 bro, you can just have Claude or ChatGTP summarize it for you.

Project 2025 is an initiative led by the Heritage Foundation to prepare for a potential conservative administration in 2025. Its main objective is to reshape and restructure the federal government to align with conservative principles. Here are the key points of the project:

1. **Policy Agenda**: The project proposes a comprehensive conservative policy agenda across various areas including immigration, education, and health. It aims to undo many policies of the current administration, particularly those related to reproductive rights and immigration.

2. **Personnel**: Project 2025 emphasizes the importance of staffing the government with individuals who align with its conservative values. It includes a "Presidential Personnel Database" to quickly fill key positions with vetted conservative candidates.

3. **Training**: The initiative includes a "Presidential Administration Academy" to train appointees on how to effectively implement the conservative agenda from day one.

4. **180-Day Playbook**: A detailed plan for the first 180 days of the new administration, focusing on quick actions to reverse current policies and implement new conservative measures [oai_citation:1,Project 2025 - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) [oai_citation:2,A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration | Media Matters for America](https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration) [oai_citation:3,Project 2025 Publishes Comprehensive Policy Guide, ‘Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise’ | The Heritage Foundation](https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-publishes-comprehensive-policy-guide-mandate-leadership-the-conservative-promise).

The project also targets specific areas such as:

- **Reproductive Rights**: Plans to remove the term "abortion" from all federal laws and regulations, restrict access to abortion services, and defund organizations like Planned Parenthood [oai_citation:4,A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration | Media Matters for America](https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration).
- **Education**: Proposes breaking up the Department of Education to enhance parental rights and educational freedom [oai_citation:5,Project 2025 Publishes Comprehensive Policy Guide, ‘Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise’ | The Heritage Foundation](https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-publishes-comprehensive-policy-guide-mandate-leadership-the-conservative-promise).
- **Justice and Security**: Calls for restructuring the Department of Justice to ensure accountability and enforcing strict immigration laws [oai_citation:6,Project 2025 Publishes Comprehensive Policy Guide, ‘Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise’ | The Heritage Foundation](https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-publishes-comprehensive-policy-guide-mandate-leadership-the-conservative-promise).

Overall, Project 2025 aims to create a unified conservative approach to governance, ensuring that a future conservative administration is prepared to implement these policies swiftly and effectively.

 

[GhostZ06]

No he really didn't. He disavowed it. It's a done deal. I'm satisfied. Anything to the contrary is your own hysterical narrative.

Just like Trump being racist
Trump being sexist
Trump being a fascist

And any other ist label the left so desperately wish to espouse onto him.

Trump will get his last term and the United States will be just fine.

he pretty much is he wants to be a dictator

 

[Jar of Flies]

No he really didn't. He disavowed it. It's a done deal. I'm satisfied. Anything to the contrary is your own hysterical narrative.

He literally said he never hear of it and then in the next sentence said he disagrees with it. How do you disagree with something you never heard of? He’s lying and it’s people like you who bury your head in the sand that allows him to.

 

[Andy Capp]

Well said.

Yes, you both clearly struggle to follow. Well said.

 

[Andy Capp]

Zack was a rescue, I adopted her.

Does that have something to do with the life expectancy of domesticated cats compared with a cat that was not a rescue?

Otherwise, while I think that's just grand and I'm glad you have both been so good for each other, it's a non sequitur so now I'm curious why you said it. 21 seems very very very old for a cat to me*.

*FWIW I know very little about cats generally speaking.

 

[Andy Capp]

Okay, so like I said, you’re of the opinion that ideas recommended by a think tank have more influence than than ideas recommended with millions donated behind them.

That's not what he said. You keep pulling this same tactic in every thread and you need to fuck right off with that shit.

 

[filthybliss]

Project 2025 is an initiative led by the Heritage Foundation to prepare for a potential conservative administration in 2025. Its main objective is to reshape and restructure the federal government to align with conservative principles. Here are the key points of the project:

1. **Policy Agenda**: The project proposes a comprehensive conservative policy agenda across various areas including immigration, education, and health. It aims to undo many policies of the current administration, particularly those related to reproductive rights and immigration.

2. **Personnel**: Project 2025 emphasizes the importance of staffing the government with individuals who align with its conservative values. It includes a "Presidential Personnel Database" to quickly fill key positions with vetted conservative candidates.

3. **Training**: The initiative includes a "Presidential Administration Academy" to train appointees on how to effectively implement the conservative agenda from day one.

4. **180-Day Playbook**: A detailed plan for the first 180 days of the new administration, focusing on quick actions to reverse current policies and implement new conservative measures [oai_citation:1,Project 2025 - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) [oai_citation:2,A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration | Media Matters for America](https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration) [oai_citation:3,Project 2025 Publishes Comprehensive Policy Guide, ‘Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise’ | The Heritage Foundation](https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-publishes-comprehensive-policy-guide-mandate-leadership-the-conservative-promise).

The project also targets specific areas such as:

- **Reproductive Rights**: Plans to remove the term "abortion" from all federal laws and regulations, restrict access to abortion services, and defund organizations like Planned Parenthood [oai_citation:4,A guide to Project 2025, the extreme right-wing agenda for the next Republican administration | Media Matters for America](https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration).
- **Education**: Proposes breaking up the Department of Education to enhance parental rights and educational freedom [oai_citation:5,Project 2025 Publishes Comprehensive Policy Guide, ‘Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise’ | The Heritage Foundation](https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-publishes-comprehensive-policy-guide-mandate-leadership-the-conservative-promise).
- **Justice and Security**: Calls for restructuring the Department of Justice to ensure accountability and enforcing strict immigration laws [oai_citation:6,Project 2025 Publishes Comprehensive Policy Guide, ‘Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise’ | The Heritage Foundation](https://www.heritage.org/press/project-2025-publishes-comprehensive-policy-guide-mandate-leadership-the-conservative-promise).

Overall, Project 2025 aims to create a unified conservative approach to governance, ensuring that a future conservative administration is prepared to implement these policies swiftly and effectively.

Project 2025 is more than just conservative brain rote.

• Bans sexual media because it makes people transgender for some reason
  • You will be opening pandora's box on restrictions, soon GTA 6 will be out the door and all our other favorite video games
• Bryce Mitchell Type takes on science where we cut research funds on renewable energy and redistribute it to pumping more oil and co2 emissions
• They compare Silicon Valley Companies to drug dealers but then wish to enforce tax cuts for large corporations like them (makes zero sense)
• Implementing more Identity Poltics in workforce (so much for being antiwoke)

So tons of nonsense like that is proposed. The more structural issue lies in the assembly of federal agencies. It grants Trump the ability to install a permanent MAGA federal government and pretty much dissolve democracy. With an awfully lopsided SCOTUS, this can be unstoppable to avoid unless some of the Republican judges have it in them to stand against MAGA.

 

[BFoe]

Can someone show what these people are arguing for? I can only see the 992 page PDF on their website

Because there’s 900+ pages, it’s difficult to summarize all the things that they are arguing for, but I’ll explain it broadly.

Th whole point is to give the Executive Branch vast, vast powers beyond what is normal, and then rather than accomplishing things through legislation or judiciary, to accomplish them by swift, unilateral executive action—much the way that a dictatorship-style government would.

Step 1 is to reinstate Trump’s executive order which creates a new category of federal employee, called Schedule F employees. This would expand the number of employees POTUS could fire from 4000 to about 50,000. Trump could eliminate 50,000 current government employees and replace them with ones of his choosing—and bypass Senate confirmations for all of them.

Next is sweeping action across all executive agencies. For example, abortion and emergency contraception. Rather than focusing on passing a federal ban—which is easy to block in Congress—they use executive actions: directing Dept of HHS to no longer consider abortion as healthcare, exempting Planned Parenthood and similar agencies from Medicaid or federal grant money, issue directives that prohibit pharmacies from distributing abortion medication or emergency contraception, and so forth. The end result is essentially the same as a federal ban, but without all of that pesky back and forth in Congress.

It was Antonin Scalia who said that gridlock in our government was by design. He said our Founding Fathers made it easy to throw a monkey wrench in the works, and that this feature was set us apart, and was the main protection of minoriites.
Project 2025 aims to bypass all of that.

I am not going to timestamp this because everyone should listen to all 7 minutes. But if you want to skip to the part I am referring to, it starts at 5:30.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Project 2025 is more than just conservative brain rote.

• Bans sexual media because it makes people transgender for some reason
  • You will be opening pandora's box on restrictions, soon GTA 6 will be out the door and all our other favorite video games
• Bryce Mitchell Type takes on science where we cut research funds on renewable energy and redistribute it to pumping more oil and co2 emissions
• They compare Silicon Valley Companies to drug dealers but then wish to enforce tax cuts for large corporations like them (makes zero sense)
• Implementing more Identity Poltics in workforce (so much for being antiwoke)

So tons of nonsense like that is proposed. The more structural issue lies in the assembly of federal agencies. It grants Trump the ability to install a permanent MAGA federal government and pretty much dissolve democracy.

It’s 992 pages of fantasy tbh

 

[filthybliss]

It’s 992 pages of fantasy tbh

We said the same about overturning Roe V. Wade. I ain't laughing anymore.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Because there’s 900+ pages, it’s difficult to summarize all the things that they are arguing for, but I’ll explain it broadly.

Th whole point is to give the Executive Branch vast, vast powers beyond what is normal, and then rather than accomplishing things through legislation or judiciary, to accomplish them by swift, unilateral executive action—much the way that a dictatorship-style government would.

Step 1 is to reinstate Trump’s executive order which creates a new category of federal employee, called Schedule F employees. This would expand the number of employees POTUS could fire from 4000 to about 50,000. Trump could eliminate 50,000 current government employees and replace them with ones of his choosing—and bypass Senate confirmations for all of them.

Next is sweeping action across all executive agencies. For example, abortion and emergency contraception. Rather than focusing on passing a federal ban—which is easy to block in Congress—they use executive actions: directing Dept of HHS to no longer consider abortion as healthcare, exempting Planned Parenthood and similar agencies from Medicaid or federal grant money, issue directives that prohibit pharmacies from distributing abortion medication or emergency contraception, and so forth. The end result is essentially the same as a federal ban, but without all of that pesky back and forth in Congress.

It was Antonin Scalia who said that gridlock in our government was by design. He said our Founding Fathers made it easy to throw a monkey wrench in the works, and that this feature was set us apart, and was the main protection of minoriites.
Project 2025 aims to bypass all of that.

I am not going to timestamp this because everyone should listen to all 7 minutes. But if you want to skip to the part I am referring to, it starts at 5:30.

I just doubt that Trump will fire 50,000 employees and replace them with “people of his choosing”. Don’t you think that’s a little outlandish?

 

[Andy Capp]

There are 2 things that make this particularly dangerous. The first is that I would wager that you’d never make the “recommendations” these people are making. I highly doubt that your recommendations would be the type that literally subverts and bypasses the system of government our Founders laid out. But Project 2025 does. We are used to the old way: “Omg, they’re recommending a federal abortion ban (for example)! We can’t let that happen, get and and vote, yadda yadda…”
That is not what is happening here, and people need to wake up and understand this ASAP. This is entirely different than anything else I’ve ever seen in my years of following politics.

The second thing is that with Trump, they actually have a candidate that will enact this. Trump enacted more than 2/3 of their recommendations in his last term.

I just saw this post of yours:

You’ve got to understand that Project 2025 is put together by an absolutely massive coalition of over 100 conservative groups. The Heritage Foundation themselves had a record-breaking year of fundraising in 2023, taking in 150 million dollars. Project 2025 is not some tinfoil shit from a little lobbyist group: this is an absolutely massive effort backed by hundreds of millions of dollars.

It's also not just one org making recommendations to another. It's a coordinated effort from the get go with everyone working together to achieve common goals. To suggest otherwise is just plain dumb.

 

[Rob Battisti]

We said the same about overturning Roe V. Wade. I ain't laughing anymore.

Roe was going to be overturned eventually anyway.

 

[filthybliss]

Roe was going to be overturned eventually anyway.

You could say the same for Project 2025 becoming a reality.

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

We said the same about overturning Roe V. Wade. I ain't laughing anymore.

I am

 

[filthybliss]

I am

Did you forget to take your schizo meds today? That is probably why.

 

[BFoe]

I just doubt that Trump will fire 50,000 employees and replace them with “people of his choosing”. Don’t you think that’s a little outlandish?

Please understand: this isn’t just me or other libs talking, Trump is literally running on this platform right now. He’s spinning it as “dismantling the Deep State,” of course.


Is it outlandish? Oh I think it’s a crazy fucking thing to do, but not necessarily something that Trump wouldn’t do—after all, he did it on a smaller scale when Lara Trump took over the RNC and fired 60 RNC officials and replaced them with loyalists.

When someone asks me the question that you asked, I respond with another question: “Why the hell would I ever vote for the guy and risk finding out?” Americans need to wake the hell up, stop being complacent, and stop assuming our democracy is infallible. History is full of governments that fell and became dictatorships—even republics that fell. Ancient Rome didn’t start out as an empire with an emperor, it started as a republic. We aren’t so special that it can’t happen here.

Roe was going to be overturned eventually anyway.

I disagree. I can’t think of another example of a time SCOTUS overturned a precedent in the name of restricting rights. Usually, it’s to expand rights, like they did when Brown v Board of Education overturned Plessy. SCOTUS had already ruled again and upheld abortion rights in Casey. What SCOTUS did was extremely radical. Unheard of.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Please understand: this isn’t just me or other libs talking, Trump is literally running on this platform right now. He’s spinning it as “dismantling the Deep State,” of course.


Is it outlandish? Oh I think it’s a crazy fucking thing to do, but not necessarily something that Trump wouldn’t do—after all, he did it on a smaller scale when Lara Trump took over the RNC and fired 60 RNC officials and replaced them with loyalists.

When someone asks me the question that you asked, I respond with another question: “Why the hell would I ever vote for the guy and risk finding out?” Americans need to wake the hell up, stop being complacent, and stop assuming our democracy is infallible. History is full of governments that fell and became dictatorships—even republics that fell. Ancient Rome didn’t start out as an empire with an emperor, it started as a republic. We aren’t so special that it can’t happen here.


I disagree. I can’t think of another example of a time SCOTUS overturned a precedent in the name of restricting rights. Usually, it’s to expand rights, like they did when Brown v Board of Education overturned Plessy. SCOTUS had already ruled again and upheld abortion rights in Casey. What SCOTUS did was extremely radical. Unheard of.

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