Elections Project 2025 major right wing groups plan on creating a new super super pack

[Sinister]

Sounds like it's a few retards rather than any genuine threat to democracy.

It's the donor class. These think tanks are funded by billionaires, the same dark money groups behind Super PAC's...there is no more a legitimate threat to Democracy than them.

 

[RoastBeast]

Yes I'm sure they are planning on imprisoning LGBTQ people. There's no way that this could be an exaggeration.

Especially when you talk to people who side with LGBTQ and they tell you that you're a homophobe and a bigot for not being okay with adults talking to other people's under age children about their sexuality.

These are perfectly normal, clear thinking individuals who would never ever exaggerate anything in order to push their ideologies.

 

[Sinister]

Yes I'm sure they are planning on imprisoning LGBTQ people. There's no way that this could be an exaggeration.

Especially when you talk to people who side with LGBTQ and they tell you that you're a homophobe and a bigot for not being okay with adults talking to other people's under age children about their sexuality.

These are perfectly normal, clear thinking individuals who would never ever exaggerate anything in order to push their ideologies.

They want to classify any LGBTQ media or material as "pornography"...and in their document is recommended prosecution of anyone engaging in said "pornography." Teachers and librarians are specifically mentioned targets, so like if a library chooses to have a book they dont approve of, the result can be prosecution. They also anticipated States who disagree not being willing to prosecute, which is why they mentioned threatening DA's with Federal prosecution if they dont. Sorry but you're not going to "no u" your way out of this. You're either okay with this sort of targeted censorship, bigotry, and prosecution based on it...or you're not.

 

[Sinister]

The length is what killed me the most. Like...fuck, that's almost as long as War & Peace, who is even gonna read all this shit, just do bullet points or something.

They're counting on you not reading it...but moreso they're counting on people who vote Republican not reading it.

 

[nostradumbass]

Those monsters are trying to take gay porn away from children!! This is an outrage!!!

 

[Sinister]

Lol@literally anything that says "gay" being "gay porn."

 

[PhitePhan]

It's the donor class. These think tanks are funded by billionaires, the same dark money groups behind Super PAC's...there is no more a legitimate threat to Democracy than them.

Sounds like the Soros boogeyman, but in reverse…

 

[KnightTemplar]

Lol@literally anything that says "gay" being "gay porn."

Rule 34: no exceptions

 

[RoastBeast]

They want to classify any LGBTQ media or material as "pornography"...and in their document is recommended prosecution of anyone engaging in said "pornography." Teachers and librarians are specifically mentioned targets, so like if a library chooses to have a book they dont approve of, the result can be prosecution. They also anticipated States who disagree not being willing to prosecute, which is why they mentioned threatening DA's with Federal prosecution if they dont. Sorry but you're not going to "no u" your way out of this. You're either okay with this sort of targeted censorship, bigotry, and prosecution based on it...or you're not.

How do I know you aren't exaggerating as well?

 

[Sinister]

How do I know you aren't exaggerating as well?

Here is a direct quote from the document:

“Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.”

Now before you say "but its only talking about transgender ideology" keep in mind that's an example. They are talking about anything they deem as "pornography." And here is another quote:

“Where warranted and proper under federal law, initiate legal action against local officials—including District Attorneys—who deny American citizens the “equal protection of the laws” by refusing to prosecute criminal offenses in their jurisdictions. This holds true particularly for jurisdictions that refuse to enforce the law against criminals based on the Left’s favored defining characteristics of the would-be offender (race, so-called gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) or other political considerations (e.g., immigration status).”

Care to continue or are you just going to either say this is disgusting or that you're ok with it because it aligns with your world view?

 

[Sinister]

Sounds like the Soros boogeyman, but in reverse…

Nah, there's literal records of this class of people bribing the f*ck out of Government officials to get what they want. See: Harlan Crow, Clarence Thomas, what Harlan Crow wanted against the EPA, and how the SCOTUS just ruled regarding EPA protections.

And that's just one guy.

 

[RoastBeast]

Here is a direct quote from the document:

“Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.”

Now before you say "but its only talking about transgender ideology" keep in mind that's an example. They are talking about anything they deem as "pornography." And here is another quote:

“Where warranted and proper under federal law, initiate legal action against local officials—including District Attorneys—who deny American citizens the “equal protection of the laws” by refusing to prosecute criminal offenses in their jurisdictions. This holds true particularly for jurisdictions that refuse to enforce the law against criminals based on the Left’s favored defining characteristics of the would-be offender (race, so-called gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) or other political considerations (e.g., immigration status).”

Care to continue or are you just going to either say this is disgusting or that you're ok with it because it aligns with your world view?

It's difficult to get the full context but that is an attack on pornography. Not LGBTQ people. That is the exaggeration.

If I'm reading it correctly, they want anyone involved in pornography to be prosecuted. So why are people pretending like they're only talking about LGBTQ when that would include straight people as well? That's the exaggeration I'm talking about and why it is difficult to take anything the left says at face value.

 

[PhitePhan]

Nah, there's literal records of this class of people bribing the f*ck out of Government officials to get what they want. See: Harlan Crow, Clarence Thomas, what Harlan Crow wanted against the EPA, and how the SCOTUS just ruled regarding EPA protections.

And that's just one guy.

So it’s just those damn dirty repugs… I knew it!

 

[Sinister]

It's difficult to get the full context but that is an attack on pornography. Not LGBTQ people. That is the exaggeration.

If I'm reading it correctly, they want anyone involved in pornography to be prosecuted. So why are people pretending like they're only talking about LGBTQ when that would include straight people as well? That's the exaggeration I'm talking about and why it is difficult to take anything the left says at face value.

That was a pretty nice mental backflip.

They specifically used the "T" aspect of LGBTQ as their example, and you think people are exaggerating that they intend to target LGBTQ people. And they specifically indicated teachers and librarians, who have been a central target of anti-LGBTQ sentiment perpetuated by the religious right. And here you are with the "well I think you're reading too much into it."

Never mind the implication for straight people. That's honestly just as absurd, the idea that the entirety of "pornography" will be censored, and the basic assumption that the decision of what constituted "pornography" will be reasonable to the majority of people living under this sort of rule when the document quite clearly indicates that they intend to override State functions, this is not Governing, this is ruling. And we're not going to merely argue about whether or not theyll actually jail gay people to gloss over that.

If you support this blatant fascism, that's your prerogative. But at least be honest about it, because the more you attempt to reason it the worse it looks.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Nah. There are PLENTY of Republicans in the DOJ, the FBI, and the CIA. In fact there's an old saying in that community that ONLY Republicans are ever allowed to investigate anything and this is because Democrats have always been so terrified of accusations of partisanship that they almost always appoint Republicans to these positions...while the Republicans always appoint Republicans because of...blatant partisanship and retention of power.

Sooner or later you're going to have to face the fact that your guy just sucks that bad where even Republican investigators found his behavior indefensible. Reputable lawyers fled from him. And this Heritage Foundation Autocracy Manifesto is all the proof you need that the Donor class understand that if re-elected, he will be such a sh*tty President for everyone but them that they will HAVE to make him a dictator, and any other Republican who gets into office as well. This is them straight up admitting that installation of fascism is the only way they can keep up their scam of funneling tax dollars to themselves, and they sincerely hope that people like you will be supportive the moment you hear "deep state"..."anti-choice"..."illegal LGBTQ"..."protect the kids"..."pro life"...and all your other trigger words.

Who's 'my guy?' RFK Jr?

You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see that what is happening to him is a travesty of justice. The fact you think someone's opinion on that must fall along partisan lines just reveals that you don't believe in justice and are 100% OK with corruption as long as it's on your side.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

Wrong

Right.

 

[Sinister]

So it’s just those damn dirty repugs… I knew it!

Corporate Democrats suck pretty bad with this as well, I've never indicated otherwise. But I wouldnt make light of the donor class. Here let me extend an olive branch, despite the fact that we disagree on some things I dont think you're a total moron. The donor class are responsible for everything you hate about the pharmaceutical industry. We can almost lay the brunt of the opioid crisis at the feet of just one Family, the Sacklers.

These families that control the Pharmaceutical companies, I shouldnt need to tell you how powerful they are and how far their influence reaches. They're why we have mandates, and why regulation surrounding production and distribution of these things are questionable, even if that question is why only rich Countries can use the patents. The EpiPen pricing scandal was a direct result of Mylan's horsesh*t practices, and that was headed up by Joe Manchin's daughter.

These kinds of people make up the donor class, and they give money to these groups. Its pretty clear it's not entirely ideological, most of these people aren't "pro life" because they give a f*ck about sweet little babies, they make decisions that account for baby deaths all the time. They just dont want to lose their labor market. They want numbers in favor. They dont really give a sh*t about gay or trans people, they are sure no one will persecute THEIR gay or trans relative. They just want people like us arguing with each other instead of them.

 

[Sinister]

Who's 'my guy?' RFK Jr?

You don't have to be a Trump supporter to see that what is happening to him is a travesty of justice. The fact you think someone's opinion on that must fall alng partisan lines just reveals that you don't believe in justice and are 100% OK with corruption as long as it's on your side.

You just proved he's your guy.

 

[Mikeydontgiva]

 

[Deleted member 592570]

You just proved he's your guy.

Lmao you're such a bad arguer.