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Episode 7 krasner finally gets to try a cop
Well, the moment krasner has been dreaming of has arrived. He finally gets to charge a cop with murder.
The episode starts off with some kind of speech going on that is interrupted by people protesting the death of David Jones.
As I watch this episode, I will pause and comment, rather than watch the whole episode and then comment. I am guessing there will be a lot of information and I don’t want to get it mixed up.
So, here is a quick breakdown of the incident gathered from cnn, the video, and other sources. According to family, Jones was on his way to sell a dirt bike on Facebook marketplace and was meeting a guy at a gas station. Officer Pownall was driving a police transport van with a father and his two kids in it when he observed Jones operating the dirt bike (illegally) and driving across four lanes of traffic. Pownall cuts him off, stopping him, and gets out of the vehicle. He begins to pat down Jones and upon finding a gun, Jones tries to remove the gun from his waistband when a struggle ensues. Pownall pulls his firearm during this struggle and attempts to pull the trigger, but the gun jams. Jones then flees and tosses the gun as he is running and is then shot by Pownall, who had cleared his jam at this point, in the back and killed.
krasner issues arrest warrants for first degree murder(holy shit, 1st??), endangering the public because he shot towards traffic, and possession of a tool of a crime (a gun)-more on this later, and holds Pawnall without bail(more on that in a moment).
first degree? That is a premeditated murder. Even second degree would have been a stretch, but far more applicable than first. Second is a crime of passion, after a fight and anger and emotions are flowing freely. Third degree in some states, is where you get voluntary or involuntary manslaughter. Some states have all of them, but basically, 3rd degree is committing a murder where a crime is being committed but the defendant didn’t intend to kill. I don’t know that this fits either because I believe Officer Pownall intended to kill or stop Jones, but he wasn’t committing a crime prior to the shooting. All I know is that first degree definitely DOES not fit here. First degree is either life in prison and in PA, can be death penalty. But in Philly, krasner won’t seek the death penalty-let’s see if he changes his mind when it’s a cop.
As for the bail portion of this, kranser says no bail. Why? There is no threat of Pownall committing other crimes. He has never committed another crime before this incident. And krasner lets put violent criminals out on personal recognizance bonds(requires no cash, only a promise to commit no crimes and show up for court). I have repeatedly shown that krasner does this, especially for car jacking and robbery cases.
Now, in a meeting with his staff, krasner talks about “ok, we have got to figure out why Jones was driving like that on the road and why he had a firearm.” The solution they come up with is that jones was trying to get the motorbike running correctly before selling it and had a gun for protection from being robbed, which they said is a real possibility in this area. He then says “if we don’t humanize this guy, we lose and we are wasting our time.”
In the first pre-trial hearing, the judge ruled it is NOT a first degree murder case, it is a third degree murder case and Pownall is getting bail. They still keep the “possession of an instrument of crime” you know, his fucking service gun, which is insane. I have never seem him charge a felon in possession of a firearm or a stolen gun with that charge, only cops.
Prosecutors then meet with the family, mainly, a radical Muslim woman that has gotten a lot of focus for her wanting criminals to get alternative sentences despite her own son being murdered. She has only met with two families, one was the family of the murder case with the shotgun, and she argued for the release of the convicted murderer. And she met with the family of guy the cop shot. I am not saying they don’t meet with other families, but they certainly don’t show or even mention that they do that on a regular basis.
Then krasner meets with a group of mostly black officers and former officers that claim the white officers routinely lie and they invite him to join their group.
They bring up another case from 2010 in which officer Pownall shot another guy in the back as he fled with a gun. This subject lived but is paralyzed. They interviewed him and he said with his record, he didn’t want to get caught with a gun. No charges on that incident.
krasner and his office file a motion to dismiss the PA and city guidelines on when officers can use force, which is struck down by the judge, pissing them off.
This doc was filmed before the resolution of the case. In 2022, a judge tossed all charges against the officer because krasner’s office fucked up the grand jury process by not explaining the differences between the available charges and did not explain malice, which is the difference between murder and manslaughter.
In 2018, the city settled a lawsuit for 1 million with jones family.
Up next. Final episode of the season
https://www.bigtrial.net/2022/01/state-investigating-krasners-failure-to.html?m=1
Well, the moment krasner has been dreaming of has arrived. He finally gets to charge a cop with murder.
The episode starts off with some kind of speech going on that is interrupted by people protesting the death of David Jones.
As I watch this episode, I will pause and comment, rather than watch the whole episode and then comment. I am guessing there will be a lot of information and I don’t want to get it mixed up.
So, here is a quick breakdown of the incident gathered from cnn, the video, and other sources. According to family, Jones was on his way to sell a dirt bike on Facebook marketplace and was meeting a guy at a gas station. Officer Pownall was driving a police transport van with a father and his two kids in it when he observed Jones operating the dirt bike (illegally) and driving across four lanes of traffic. Pownall cuts him off, stopping him, and gets out of the vehicle. He begins to pat down Jones and upon finding a gun, Jones tries to remove the gun from his waistband when a struggle ensues. Pownall pulls his firearm during this struggle and attempts to pull the trigger, but the gun jams. Jones then flees and tosses the gun as he is running and is then shot by Pownall, who had cleared his jam at this point, in the back and killed.
krasner issues arrest warrants for first degree murder(holy shit, 1st??), endangering the public because he shot towards traffic, and possession of a tool of a crime (a gun)-more on this later, and holds Pawnall without bail(more on that in a moment).
first degree? That is a premeditated murder. Even second degree would have been a stretch, but far more applicable than first. Second is a crime of passion, after a fight and anger and emotions are flowing freely. Third degree in some states, is where you get voluntary or involuntary manslaughter. Some states have all of them, but basically, 3rd degree is committing a murder where a crime is being committed but the defendant didn’t intend to kill. I don’t know that this fits either because I believe Officer Pownall intended to kill or stop Jones, but he wasn’t committing a crime prior to the shooting. All I know is that first degree definitely DOES not fit here. First degree is either life in prison and in PA, can be death penalty. But in Philly, krasner won’t seek the death penalty-let’s see if he changes his mind when it’s a cop.
As for the bail portion of this, kranser says no bail. Why? There is no threat of Pownall committing other crimes. He has never committed another crime before this incident. And krasner lets put violent criminals out on personal recognizance bonds(requires no cash, only a promise to commit no crimes and show up for court). I have repeatedly shown that krasner does this, especially for car jacking and robbery cases.
Now, in a meeting with his staff, krasner talks about “ok, we have got to figure out why Jones was driving like that on the road and why he had a firearm.” The solution they come up with is that jones was trying to get the motorbike running correctly before selling it and had a gun for protection from being robbed, which they said is a real possibility in this area. He then says “if we don’t humanize this guy, we lose and we are wasting our time.”
In the first pre-trial hearing, the judge ruled it is NOT a first degree murder case, it is a third degree murder case and Pownall is getting bail. They still keep the “possession of an instrument of crime” you know, his fucking service gun, which is insane. I have never seem him charge a felon in possession of a firearm or a stolen gun with that charge, only cops.
Prosecutors then meet with the family, mainly, a radical Muslim woman that has gotten a lot of focus for her wanting criminals to get alternative sentences despite her own son being murdered. She has only met with two families, one was the family of the murder case with the shotgun, and she argued for the release of the convicted murderer. And she met with the family of guy the cop shot. I am not saying they don’t meet with other families, but they certainly don’t show or even mention that they do that on a regular basis.
Then krasner meets with a group of mostly black officers and former officers that claim the white officers routinely lie and they invite him to join their group.
They bring up another case from 2010 in which officer Pownall shot another guy in the back as he fled with a gun. This subject lived but is paralyzed. They interviewed him and he said with his record, he didn’t want to get caught with a gun. No charges on that incident.
krasner and his office file a motion to dismiss the PA and city guidelines on when officers can use force, which is struck down by the judge, pissing them off.
This doc was filmed before the resolution of the case. In 2022, a judge tossed all charges against the officer because krasner’s office fucked up the grand jury process by not explaining the differences between the available charges and did not explain malice, which is the difference between murder and manslaughter.
In 2018, the city settled a lawsuit for 1 million with jones family.
Up next. Final episode of the season
https://www.bigtrial.net/2022/01/state-investigating-krasners-failure-to.html?m=1
