i understand that but fighters show who they really are when they are out of prime, not when they beat up on everyone. if that was the case, ali could have died in 68 and been the greatest heavyweight ever.
Moz this is off topic but I was reading a bit about Cus and I thought you were the guy to ask about this b/c you know a ton of shit. Was he a pedo or gay? Everything out there points to him being a very paranoid guy but I read stories about him and Floyd Patterson and having a very odd relationship.
sure, the stories I read was that there were always rumors about cus, I've talked about them before here. there were rumours about he and Jimmy Jacobs who seemed fruity as fuck to me even though he was married. There were trainers in new york who called him gay too. Floyd Patterson slept with him in training, which, in and of itself is not unheard of in boxing. (Bundini Brown was told to sleep with a great never named fighter which it took no leap to realize was Sugar Ray Robinson but it didn't sound sexual) but Floyd said Cus would touch him but never knew if it was intentional or not. However, rumours are rumours and I wasn't there, all I can say is that many of the guys who were in the tyson camp seemed funny to me, always did, fucking Rooney, fucking Atlas with his handlebar moustache, Steve Lott was said to stare at Tyson in the shower, birds of a feather flock together. So, i don't know. Tyson still seems to idealize him and has never said anything like that. So.., who knows? I think me and my mentor used to make people wonder what it was between us, I don't know if anyone thought there was anything sexual between us but maybe they did, I know they used to wonder "what is it between them". Rumours start because people are fucking stupid, but..., I could see it, sexual abuse is common wherever there is a power differential.
Good stuff. Thanks Moz.
anytime, i was trying to find a quote from a NY trainer who called him some kind of
, i think it was Joey Farrielo but I'm not sure.
Alcoholic dementia will kill me one day I'm pretty sure, lol. Yeah not to derail the thread but I know you are aware of a lot of this shit and I hd been reading up on it and figured I'd ask since I saw you on here. Atlas is a fuckin nut, he threatened to kill Tyson for hitting on his daughter or some shit, iirc.
not a good way to go, my mom had it, it's very ugly. atlas also threatened Donnie Lalonde. I can't hate him though, he payed 5000 to give Camacho a decent burial.
Yeah I mostly stick to beer but my father's side of the family have an insane ability to handle alcohol intake so hopefully that passed down to me. I just turned 28 so maybe by 40 these drinking days will be behind me. Idk tho.
I just watched that fight, too. Sosa was a behemoth and a huge puncher, too. I believe Roy when he said the dude could punch, and that's why he had to get him outta there quick.
if by change his name, you mean penetrate our flesh, then yes.
