Prime RJJ is the GOAT and it's not even close

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  1. Mysterio

    Mysterio Banned Banned

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    Granted his style did not age well, but in his prime?

    Shiiiiiiit.... stfd everyone else.

    The greatest talent in boxing history.
     
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    Yeah he's the most physically talented fighter ever, no doubt about it.

    SRR, Floyd, Duran, Ali, Lennox are also up there in terms of the quality of their primes in their respective weight classes. Especially Duran at Lightweight, he was built to dominate that class.
     
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    Yeah in my mind he was the best ever. If he'd have quit while he was in his prime then there would be no doubt.
     
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    I think Mosley at lightweight was built that way too.
     
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    randomg1t EVERYTIME CHAMPION

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    the speed at which he moved was frightening.

    the first half of this gif is normal speed. those two punches are like fucking bullets.

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    No, he’s not. He fought a load of bums.

    Another overrated YANK.
     
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    That ain’t fair ... lol
     
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    mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    be a different ballgame if he fought guys who punched back every once and awhile. How would he have done in earlier eras? Hard to say, and what would happen if he got hit by a solid punch? we know what would have happened, and no, don't tell me his chin got old, he just never got used to taking shots. Like Larry Merchant said, "great fighters usually have great chins". you guys should be asking how much of a picnic older fighters would have had in the last 25 years, not how great was RJ.
     
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    mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    ya, if you notice, reggie followed a lot of opponents, he took a couple hard shots and decided not to try and Roy decided to let the fight go the distance and/or longer than it should have.
     
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    Boo... the no chin argument is weak my friend. Dude got hit plenty for the 15 years he didn’t lose a fight, 15 years. Ya can’t say someone fought that long as a pro and didn’t take a clean shot on the chin.
     
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    mozfonky We oughta be fightin' a bottle of Geritol.

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    merqui sosa hit him, toney hit him, lou delvalle hit him but he was lucky becuse of the era. I love roy, i love love love roy, he was awesome, i just don't know if he should be rated that highly. Higher than mayweather maybe, but i don't really know what to do with him either, or the heavyweights of today. How do we rate tyson fury with joe louis, ali, holmes, it almost makes one laugh even thinking of it.
     
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  14. aries

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    He fought Hopkins, beat him easily and also Toney when he was in his prime and made it look easy. Those two wins and the manner in which he won alone make him an ATG.
     
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    Don't even want to disagree. You don't get better than prime Roy
     
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    Lol
     
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    Boxing skills wise? Come on kidda - wise up.
     
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    i think he is overrated
     
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    Maybe if Roy had visibly looked challenged at any point during his prime (before it was obvious he was slipping), maybe then we could argue against his greatness. But because no one even came close during that time, he just continues to have this aura of invincibility... and I think the aura is well earned after making Toney look like a beginner for 12 rounds. He might not be the GOAT, but he surely wasn't "overrated".
     
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    Fundamentally, and by the book? I think absolutely not. He dropped his hands so much especially after throwing a combination, backing out with his hands down. Having that left hand down got him clipped, and knocked out (Glen Johnson). You can only be unorthodox for so long until you get exposed. Same thing happened to Prince Naseem. I do not believe an unorthodox fighter can be called the GOAT. He is one of the greatest, and I grew up in a very pro RJJ household. But often times his disregard for, or not wanting to apply sound technique got him clapped when his extraordinary athleticism didn't make up for it.
     
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