Prime Koscheck runs through today's division

[Superzorro]

I could actually see Hardy or Serra ko'ing Usman, even Burns hurt him who's not a good striker. But he most likely beats Hardy but Serra could also sub him

..?

 

[Superzorro]

are you ok in the head?

I would ask you the same if you think there’s a chance Matt Sera or Dan Hardy would ever come close to having a chance at beating Kamaru Usman.

 

[Superzorro]

Prime Koscheck got KO'd by Paulo Thiago.

You're on crack.

The division is full of wrestlers who have better striking than he did, and high skilled anti-wrestling strikers like WB and Edwards.

I love how you idiots are right back to claiming that there's been no evolution in the sport a few weeks after we saw Conor get lit up by low calf kicks because he didn't know how to deal with the attack.

Prime Kos loses to Usman, Colby, Leon, George, WB, for sure and probably many others would beat him. Geoff Neal might give Kos fits. Fighters improve as has the sport.

Conor missed two years and is now getting KO’d by guys he KO’d in the first round. The meta in MMA changes pretty quickly. Koschecks fighting style is prehistoric in comparison. That doesn’t make Usman greater than GSP either. Greatness =/= head to head skill

 

[BADBOYKILLA]

What does that have to do with his prime? You seem confused

Not confused I just don't take time to read things , like instructions or thread titles

 

[electricfuneral]

Paulo Thiago used his head as a speed bag

 

[WildShrimper]

Nah he'd run into a right hand and get knocked the fuck out, just like he did when he was in his prime.

 

[Jhalv]

Wonderboy would be a nightmare match up for any version of kos. His striking was actually not great at all.

 

[VanMMA]

Was a huge Kos fan but tbh he lost the big fights. Think Usman would win 48-47 or 49-46.

 

[robbie]

all you can do is refer to racist ad hominem attacks
but you do nothing to address the facts
i didn't even mention gsp tapping to strikes btw

If you post moronic stuff, you get treated like a moron. That's how it works. OK you want to discuss facts...

Nick Diaz vs. GSP
http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/e5e3c3a055df3016
Which rounds did GSP gas in smart guy? GSP won all 5 rounds (50-45) and landed 105 significant strikes to 41 for Nick Diaz which is more than double. GSP landed 9 of 16 TD. Zero for Nick Diaz. Your opinion is false aka BS.

Condit vs. GSP
http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/8d12287f672cabd8
Dominant win for GSP even though its his first fight back from double knee surgery. 50-45, 50-45 and 49-46. In R3 Condit did land a head kick knock down and lands some follow-up GnP, but shortly thereafter GSP escapes and dominates the rest of the round including effective GnP. Two of the three judges score R3 for GSP. GSP landed 71 significant strikes to 36 for Condit which is roughly double. GSP landed 7 of 8 TD. Zero for Condit. This is the same Condit who was the WEC welterweight champion and who clearly beat Lawler and should have been given the UFC WW belt that night. Biggest robbery in WW title fight ever. I felt very sorry for Condit given how late he was in his MMA career at that point.

Shields vs. GSP
Shields striking was completely ineffective except for eye pokes and slaps at the eyes with open hands hoping to get a finger or finger nail in GSP's eye. Perhaps the most blatant effort I can recall to injure an opponent's eye given how often Shields had his hands open when striking and did not ball a fist.

I could go on and on...but I don't think you truly understand MMA and like Simple Jack...you probably like to sit in the bath tub farting and laughing your ass off...

 

[Tyr XIII]

I could actually see Hardy or Serra ko'ing Usman, even Burns hurt him who's not a good striker. But he most likely beats Hardy but Serra could also sub him

you are out of your mind

 

[WHITE ANDERSON]

If you post moronic stuff, you get treated like a moron. That's how it works. OK you want to discuss facts...

Nate Diaz vs. GSP
http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/e5e3c3a055df3016
Which rounds did GSP gas in smart guy? GSP won all 5 rounds (50-45) and landed 105 significant strikes to 41 for Nate Diaz which is more than double. GSP landed 9 of 16 TD. Zero for Nate Diaz. Your opinion is false aka BS.

Condit vs. GSP
http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/8d12287f672cabd8
Dominant win for GSP even though its his first fight back from double knee surgery. 50-45, 50-45 and 49-46. In R3 Condit did land a head kick knock down and lands some follow-up GnP, but shortly thereafter GSP escapes and dominates the rest of the round including effective GnP. Two of the three judges score R3 for GSP. GSP landed 71 significant strikes to 36 for Condit which is roughly double. GSP landed 7 of 8 TD. Zero for Condit. This is the same Condit who was the WEC welterweight champion and who clearly beat Lawler and should have been given the UFC WW belt that night. Biggest robbery in WW title fight ever. I felt very sorry for Condit given how late he was in career at that point.

Shields vs. GSP
Shields striking was completely ineffective except for eye pokes and slaps at the eyes with open hands hoping to get a finger or finger nail in GSP's. Perhaps the most blatant effort I can recall to injure an opponent's eye given how often Shields had his hands open when striking and did not ball a fist.

I could go on and on...but I don't think you truly understand MMA and like Simple Jack...you probably like to sit in the bath tub farting and laughing your ass off...

GSP gassed in round three. GSP has admitted this in his own fights. watch the fight again. stats are irrelevant in this case

again: stats irrelevant. condit knocked him down with the headkick and left GSP in a pool of his own blood.

and funny that you don't post the score for the shields fight because GSP almost lost to jake shields in canada. FACTS. you got destroyed by your own shit post

 

[Satan's Daddy.]

Gsp fought nate diaz? Damn I didn't know..

 

[robbie]

GSP gassed in round three. GSP has admitted this in his own fights. watch the fight again. stats are irrelevant in this case

again: stats irrelevant. condit knocked him down with the head kick and left GSP in a pool of his own blood.

and funny that you don't post the score for the shields fight because GSP almost lost to jake shields in canada. FACTS. you got destroyed by your own shit post

26 - 2. Two UFC Belts including going up a weight class after a 4 year layoff. Dominated the WW division for a decade. He had his downs, but mostly ups. His legacy is solid, GSP is Top 5 in most GOAT discussions. Only Jon Jones has not experienced the downs although technically he lost to Matt Hamill due to DQ in a fight he dominated. A couple of close decisions recently that could have gone the other way for Jones, but decisions are sometimes controversial. Anderson Silva and Fedor had their losses and close fights too. Professional fighters get hit, get hurt, kicked in the nuts and sometimes get their eyes poked.

You're comment about Shields winning the striking battle is ludicrous. Go back and watch the fight or the highlights. Eye pokes can change a fight as vision is very important to the striking battle. Shields was absolutely shameful in his continually striking and slapping with an open hand with fingers extended instead of balling a fist. In addition, I don't recall Shields ever going around claiming he won. I've never heard anyone claiming Shields won that fight or deserved to win that fight or came close to winning that fight until your moronic post tonight. You are among a distinct minority around the MMA globe on that point there Skippy...but if you don't know what your talking about regarding MMA I guess it makes sense somehow in your mind...

Condit was bleeding badly in pretty much every round vs. GSP. You simply fail to look at all the facts based upon an entire fight which is 25 minutes for title fights. Condit didn't even win the round you are referring to. How fucking stupid is that...moronic is what it is. McGregor had a slim margin in R1 vs. Poirier, but took strategic damage and then got KO'd or TKO'd early in R2. In your world McGregor winning R1 is a big deal. In my world, McGregor suffered a KO or TKO loss, but did manage to win a close 10-9 score in R1 which was of little consequence in the big picture.

http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/9c3c0818f0c32768

http://www.mmadecisions.com/decision/2674/Georges-St-Pierre-vs-Jake-Shields
Judges
50-45, 48-47 and 48-47 all for GSP

Media Scores
MMAJunkie.com 50-45 St-Pierre
MMAFighting.com 50-45 St-Pierre
MMAWeekly.com 50-45 St-Pierre
Sherdog.com 50-46 St-Pierre
Sherdog.com 50-47 St-Pierre
Sherdog.com 49-46 St-Pierre
FightMetric.com 49-46 St-Pierre


GSP was scoring knock downs with his jab, there are no Shields highlights in the fight highlights. Don't be such a dumb ass...one day you will be in the real world, like on the job and having a grasp of actual facts is a good thing.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

 

[robbie]

GSP gassed in round three. GSP has admitted this in his own fights. watch the fight again. stats are irrelevant in this case

again: stats irrelevant. condit knocked him down with the headkick and left GSP in a pool of his own blood.

and funny that you don't post the score for the shields fight because GSP almost lost to jake shields in canada. FACTS. you got destroyed by your own shit post

GSP landed 28 significant strikes in R3 and landed 2 TD's. Nick Diaz landed 15 significant strikes and landed zero TD's. All three judges scored R3 for GSP. Your command of facts is very poor...

 

[IneedSometop]

Kos was knocked dead in his prime by Paulo Thiago. He’s not running through the modern WW division. He really doesn’t have many elite wins. He has imo 3 maybe 4 strong wins at WW. Sanchez, Daley, Rumble, and Lytle.

 

[Mike]

What's the point in bringing up Kos skid when he was clearly past prime. Its fuckin weird how you guys act like fighters don't age and decline.

 

[Kertol]

GSP had pretty shitty strike defense too tbh.

No head movement at all.

He was still much much better than them on the feet it’s not even comparable

 

[Franklin U.]

Usman is supposed to be better than GSP? The guy isn't even better than Koscheck. Koscheck would clean out the entire division, he knocks out Usman, Burns, Colby and outwrestles Masvidal, Edwards and Wonderboy. Usmans striking sucks, it only looked good because Burns can't strike too

Lol - " prime Koscheck " .....you dont get to say that about an average fighter - a wrestler who got his fame off a t.v show and then - well- wrestled his way to mediocrity. Cant figure out why this hasn't been off to the wasteland.

Oh ....and I don't think Usman gets to wear goat welter for beating Gilbert Burns, either.

However , your post stinks to high heaven.

Josh Koscheck
GTFO

 

[blacknblue104]

Koscheck would not have beaten Usman lol.

He would have still gotten KO'd by Woodley even if he was the same fighter he was in the late 2000s.

Koscheck didn't even have that many great wins at welterweight in his prime. His best wins were against a severely dehydrated Anthony Johnson and Diego Sanchez who had a steph infection. His most impressive performance was a close split decision loss to Hendricks.