Prime Cain

Hard to tell, there's still many unknowns about Aspinall as of now
Like so far I believe he's only been to the second round twice in the UFC, not a lot to go off of which is a good thing for him since his opponents most likely don't much about him either lol
He's looked great in all his fights however

Cain was a beast at his peak though and would definitely be a top three in today's heavyweight division. Gonna have to sit on the fence on this one for the Cain/Aspinall matchup
 
Hard to say really.

Aspinall has never fought anybody remotely like Cain to this point.

Moreover, Cain never fought anybody like Aspinall in his career.

There isn't a lot of data or video on Aspinall, which after 17 fights is a bit of an anomaly. Guy does not have long fights. His cardio is still an unknown, as is his wrestling defense.

We do know that Aspinall excellent in some areas that Cain had trouble with throughout his career though.

He is lightning fast and accurate with his straight punches. And Cain had very lackadaisical defense when he came in to range. Kongo caught him for that reason, JDS caught him a few times coming in. Ngannou caught him coming in recklessly.

Aspinall is much faster than all of those guys, and he could absolutely catch Cain on the chin when he charged inside.

But, all of this is a whole lot of words to say nobody really knows how it would go. I certainly don't.
 
you guys really think highly of Tom Aspinall... he is 14 and 3... and his best win is Volkov.... he has the same best win as Derrick Lewis... would he destroy prime Cain?

maybe Tom is as good as you guys think... maybe... but he is super unproven. I think Cains win over JDS in his prime was more impressive than probably anything you could do in modern day heavyweight MMA other than Knocking out Jon Jones.

P.s. I am not saying he hasn't looked good.
 
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Not the best match up for Cain. I got Aspinal winning this one by KO and early. Cain was too wide open to being hit and his aggression works against him here vs a guy who's got power, precision, speed and moves well throwing at angles.
 
jko1355 said:
you guys really think highly of Tom Aspinall... he is 14 and 3... and his best win is Volkov.... he has the same best win as Derrick Lewis... would he destroy prime Cain?

maybe Tom is as good as you guys think... maybe... but he is super unproven.
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Lmao. What a shitahow of a post.

You do know Cain is also 14-3 right?

Comparing how Aspinall beat Volkov to how Lewis beat Volkov is laughable. Lewis spend almost 3 full rounds getting pieced up by Volkov before landing a hail Mary punch right at the end of the fight.

Aspinall beat Volkov everywhere, almost effortlessly, like nobody had before or since. He beat him up on the feet, took him down, beat him up on the ground, busted him open with elbows. Let him back up, dodged everything Volkov threw at him and took him back down, the finished him with a straight armbar. All within 3 minutes.

Since you brought up Aspinall's 3 losses. Only 1 of them is a legit defeat. There was a fight he was handily winning, in which there was a shady DQ for 12-6 elbows, which Aspinall insists weren't 12-6 and the organisation mysteriously lost the footage of when he complained to them about it.

Another is a 15 second injury against Blaydes.

People are high on Aspinall because they have watched him fight. Listen to other pro fighters and coaches talk about him, Sherdoggers aren't the only people that are impressed.
 
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Hard to tell, there's still many unknowns about Aspinall as of now
Like so far I believe he's only been to the second round twice in the UFC, not a lot to go off of which is a good thing for him since his opponents most likely don't much about him either lol
He's looked great in all his fights however

Cain was a beast at his peak though and would definitely be a top three in today's heavyweight division. Gonna have to sit on the fence on this one for the Cain/Aspinall matchup
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Agreed
Top 3-5 easily
Def could become champ, but Aspinall also can definitely win so I'm also on the fence
 
Prime cain beats all HW's except Prime Wedume
 
We haven't seen enough of Aspinall to determine that. But Cain was not the unbeatable monstera lot of sherdog believes him to be. His striking defense was bad and his wrestling was nullified by high level BJJ. He figured out that JDS could be walked back into the cage but that would not work on a lot of fighters.
 
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Does anyone think prime Cain Velasquez beats Aspinall? How does he do against the current HWs?
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An injury free fit Cain Velasquez was the baddest man on Earth, he hit hard, good boxing, elite wrestling, cardio machine who could likely fight an hour. The trilogy with prime JDS showed 2 things, 1) Anyone can be knocked out 2) Cain proved himself twice so much better than the 2nd best HW of his time
 
Prime Cain vs. Aspinall would be a helluva fight but I'd give the edge by a hair to Aspinall simply because we know Cain's chin can be touched and it usually didn't play out well when that happened.
 
I like Big Tom and have high hopes for him. He's a breath of fresh air in today's abysmal HW division. With that said I dont think Big Tom is light years ahead of prime JDS in terms of skill or danger and we all saw what Cain did to prime JDS. I'm certain prime Cain is better than anyone Tom ever fought.
 
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Lmao. What a shitahow of a post.

You do know Cain is also 14-3 right?

Comparing how Aspinall beat Volkov to how Lewis beat Volkov is laughable. Lewis spend almost 3 full rounds getting pieced up by Volkov before landing a hail Mary punch right at the end of the fight.

Aspinall beat Volkov everywhere, almost effortlessly, like nobody had before or since. He beat him up on the feet, took him down, beat him up on the ground, busted him open with elbows. Let him back up, dodged everything Volkov threw at him and took him back down, the finished him with a straight armbar. All within 3 minutes.

Since you brought up Aspinall's 3 losses. Only 1 of them is a legit defeat. There was a fight he was handily winning, in which there was a shady DQ for 12-6 elbows, which Aspinall insists weren't 12-6 and the organisation mysteriously lost the footage of when he complained to them about it.

Another is a 15 second injury against Blaydes.

People are high on Aspinall because they have watched him fight. Listen to other pro fighters and coaches talk about him, Sherdoggers aren't the only people that are impressed.
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Cain was plagued by career ending injuries and fought through some injuries normal fighters simply wouldn't. Tom is lucky he will get a chance to prove if he's a great but we need to imagine just how far a prime injury free Cain could have been. We can look at DC as an example that he felt Cain was worlds ahead of him (DC being a double champ who defended in both divisions)
 
Prime Cain was a thing that lasted from 2012 to 2013.

Is two years a "prime?"
 
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